Time Nick Message 08:22 chris ill take a look now 08:22 chris hey paul 08:21 paul (hello) 08:21 paul chris : a small patch to validate in your mailbox 01:26 gmcharlt thd: as far as I can tell from the dpkg format, the non-config files are basically in an ar archive, so there isn't a manifest as such -- it's only conffiles where there's a separate manifest that dpkg checks (as part of implementing the Debian policy about not scribbling over admin changes to config files during a package upgrade) 01:24 thd gmcharlt: reading your message, is dpkg is happy to parse directories everywhere else but not for configfiles? 01:21 thd gmcharlt: I have it now at least in my forwarded unified mail reading account 01:19 gmcharlt thd: I can try sending to another address if you wish 01:18 gmcharlt thd: I can confirm I copied and paste it correctly :) 01:18 thd gmcharlt: can you confirm that you typed koha AT agogme.com correctly? 01:17 thd odd, I have no new messages there 01:15 gmcharlt the koha@xxx one -- same one you emailed me from last 01:15 thd gmcharlt: which address did you send the message? I have many :) 01:13 gmcharlt thd: email sent 01:07 thd gmcharlt: horray, email away 01:07 gmcharlt thd: I can email you a patch 01:07 thd hello rachel 01:06 thd gmcharlt: how do I obtain your patched version of checkinstall? 01:06 chris hi rachel 01:05 thd gmcharlt: that is the same issue that the Koha installer had been having with globbing 01:05 gmcharlt no, I had to patch checkinstall itself 01:05 thd gmcharlt: is that merely a command option? 00:25 gmcharlt thd: after modifying checkinstall to only list regular files (as opposed to also the directories) from /etc in the package's conffile 00:24 gmcharlt thd: was able to do a checkinstall, then install the resulting .deb 00:24 gmcharlt thd: I've made progress on the checkinstall issue 22:10 thd s/ther/there/ 22:10 thd gmcharlt: ther is one possibilty at CCNY who might be willing to do the work if I can find her contact information. 22:08 thd gmcharlt: I know quite a few people at NYU but not ones who want to bother with organising a conference 22:07 atz I think OCLC and Kent St. should team up and host in Columbus. :) 22:07 chris how bout the guggenheim :-) 22:07 atz we have some clients there.... 22:06 gmcharlt thd: know anybody at NYU, CCNY, etc. who might be willing to put out a bid to host? 22:06 thd atz: no, ask them to hold it in New York City and I will attend ;) 22:05 chris :-) 22:05 thd However, I refuse to sell out to working on non-free software :) 22:04 atz are you going to code4libcon in Portland? 22:03 atz :( 22:03 thd atz: which is difficult to do when lack of sleep pursuing money keeps leaving me sick for a week 22:02 thd atz: I need to find some money so I can by more sleep and more hardware 22:01 atz thd: ah, yeah, not much to do in that case... 22:01 thd atz: I also run out of swap space on many nights while running cron jobs 22:01 thd atz: I do not have enough RAM or CPU for my system without running any VM 22:00 atz you get better performance 22:00 atz so if you just run the VM and connect to it via terminal 22:00 chris atz: its actually pretty easy with debian,there are some neat tools 22:00 atz the video reprocessing of the desktop is by far the greatest CPU burden 22:00 thd atz: well I am not running any at the moment 21:59 atz thd: are you running VMs "headless"? 21:59 thd I need a machine that can run a virtual machine without consuming all available resources 21:59 atz chris: i'd like to get more into xen 21:58 atz or solaris virtualization, supposedly the performance king of the group (on sparc, of course) 21:58 chris use the xen :) 21:56 atz haven't yet tested the former case 21:56 atz to be clear, parallels claims to be able to import VMware images, but failed in my experience 21:56 atz thd: actually, VMware Converter claims to be able to import parallels images 21:55 thd I gues that does not work on non-macs 21:54 gmcharlt Mac Parallels 21:54 thd gmcharlt what VM application have you been using? 21:54 atz this is a textbook case for VMs 21:53 gmcharlt tbd: yep, but I'll be needing to revert to a VM snapshot repeatedly as a I (hopefully) find the fixes for Makefile.PL and/or checkinstall 21:52 thd gmcharlt: my logs are perfectly complete for every step so if I did anything silly screenlog recorded it 21:52 atz thd: yeah, but dreams cost extra. 21:51 gmcharlt thd: could be, but logs are now gone -- hence I'm starting from scratch and will be logging it properly this time 21:51 thd atz: are you selling sleep? :0 21:50 thd gmcharlt: However, I think that if you look at the line before you ill find that he first error is still the same about ./etc/koha/README.txt 21:50 gmcharlt thd: yeah, but /etc/koha had already existed on my VM 21:49 thd gmcharlt: I repoted that rror yesterday if I manually created /etc/koha in advance 21:49 gmcharlt thd: attempting chmod, rather 21:48 gmcharlt thd: but I need to start fresh so that I'm not attempting a checkinstall onto a VM that already has a default koha install on it 21:48 gmcharlt thd: yes, it died when set_koha_permissions was attempting chown 21:47 atz gmcharlt: just try it. paypal me teh monies$$$ 21:47 thd gmcharlt did you have a different checkinstall error from me? 21:47 gmcharlt atz: if only it worked that way :( 21:46 gmcharlt thd: I got a checkinstall error; I'm now in the process of setting up a completely clean Debian Etch VM to do more testing 21:46 atz I'll sell you some, cheap. 21:46 thd gmcharlt: if you look at the archive file times, you should see that I spent all night on this again. I need to reward myself with some more sleep sometime ;) 21:44 gmcharlt thd: I shall endeavor to help give you an excuse to reward your computer ;-) 21:44 thd gmcharlt: maybe I can reward my local machine with a new hard drve if koha will install without that error. I could even reward myself. 21:42 thd gmcharlt: I do not need to regain the space. My remote server has more unused space than my local machine which needs a new hard drive :) 21:28 gmcharlt thd: I've retrieved your install directory and logs in case you need to reclaim the space 21:23 chris cya owen 21:23 owen Speaking of children, I'd better head out to get mine... 21:22 chris http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10222 21:22 chris i have a blobby man tshirt 21:21 chris hehe good idea 21:20 gmcharlt chris: and resurrect blobby-man for the kids club? :) 21:20 fbcit owen: my daughter has had a cold on top of teething this past week or so 21:19 fbcit :-) 21:19 chris we could have a koha kids club :) 21:18 chris cool :) 21:18 fbcit chris: I don't have one online, I'll get one scanned up where you can see 21:18 chris ahh yeah, lucky for us its nice and warm, so if his teeth wake him up, he can sometimes go back to sleep 21:18 owen Not too bad, it's really the combination of that and the cold that is causing the trouble 21:18 fbcit chris: he's a fine looking young man 21:17 chris i guess you have had practice before tho eh :-) 21:17 chris owen: not a lot of fun eh? 21:17 chris thats a recent photo of my son, you have one of your daughter? 21:16 chris fbcit: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10929 21:16 owen I guess molars are going around, mine's gettin' 'em too 21:13 chris ouch 21:10 nengard :( 21:09 nengard ahhhh 21:09 chris Kahurangi has 4 molars coming in 21:09 nengard i could use more too 21:09 chris not getting much myself 21:09 chris heh 21:09 thd chris: can I buy some sleep from you? 20:52 nengard but close enough 20:52 nengard well - a bit north of there 20:51 nengard Philadelphia, PA, USA 20:51 Rosa Where do you come from, nicole? 20:48 nengard sounds fun 20:47 Rosa hi nengard. yep I wandered off, not to run my library, but to have a grand morning tea to farwell three of my student assistants 20:36 gmcharlt thd: got it; I'll review it 20:35 nengard well - anyone can contact me via my info on http://web2learning.net 20:35 chris hey thd 20:35 chris but she'll read back ;) 20:35 nengard k 20:34 chris who may in fact now have wandered away from the keyboard to run her library :-) 20:34 thd` gmcharlt: I sent you an email with a link to an archive documenting the installation bug I have been experiencing 20:34 nengard hi rosa 20:34 chris rosa is the head librarian at HLT and the main reason Koha exists 20:34 nengard what a nice intro 20:34 nengard wow 20:33 chris rosa: have you met nicole? she is a prolific and respected blogger, a librarian, now an open source evangelist, and all round nice person 20:33 chris hey nicole 20:33 nengard hi 20:32 chris yup 20:32 fbcit ryan appears to be ryan_ right now :) 20:27 fbcit I'd love to talk with someone who is using it in production to compare notes 20:27 fbcit I had some problems with creep and it seems that Avery's published template dimensions are to blame 20:25 chris i think some libraries in the US use it too, ryan would know 20:25 chris yes, i know Opus here in nz print labels 20:25 fbcit or is it in production use at all? 20:25 chris good question, off the top of my head, no i dont know 20:24 fbcit chris: do you know if anyone is using it to print barcode labels on Avery 5160 labels? 20:23 chris its in dev_week 20:21 fbcit is the Label code new to Koha 3? 20:17 Rosa Hi chris 20:14 chris hey rosa 19:29 [K] <dbs@FreeNode> long time no visit :) 19:29 chris hey dan 19:28 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: dbs n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/denials 18:23 glh Just checking bye 18:00 atz :q 17:59 atz that's the same CGI IP, methinks 17:37 fbcit IE == Idiot's Elysium 17:18 owen I guess debugging my CSS and JS in IE will be cheaper in the long run 17:17 gmcharlt owen: then find lots of cash :) 17:17 gmcharlt owen: first, find a helpful ninja 17:16 atz hah... nice. www.getfirefox.com is as close as I can get, there. 17:15 owen That might help me, but I want everyone else's gone too! 17:15 atz format c: 17:15 paul owen : just install linux :-D 17:15 owen is anyone familiar with how I can erase all copies of Internet Explorer 6 from existence? 16:55 fbcit is anyone familiar with C4::Labels::draw_boundaries ? 16:26 gmcharlt hi fbcit 16:20 fbcit hello koha 16:18 atz not sure how to interpret the ~465b7561@66.249.19.54 16:18 owen IRC is a big scary world 16:17 atz or rather, one person 16:17 atz owen: i'm guessing that was all the ppl who wanted to test ahead of time that they could get on channel 15:57 atz "I, for one, welcome our new CGI leaders...." 14:32 gmcharlt hi paul 14:32 owen Hi paul 14:31 paul hello kados, owen & gmcharlt 14:06 gmcharlt greetings #koha 13:51 owen Sorry, kados, I was just getting my ear chewed off by a cataloger ;) 13:36 kados hey owen 13:23 kados g'morning all 13:23 kados paul/hdl reply to your email :-)