Time Nick Message 08:36 chris Vice President 08:33 paul what means VP ? 08:33 paul a last quetsion : "Marc Roberson Joins LibLime As VP, Library Partners" 08:33 paul thanks 08:33 paul ok, i'll investigate this (or SAN will) 08:32 chris i think so, but not 100% sure 08:32 paul so your opinion is that flags in the database are set properly and the bugs are in the code handling the workflow ? 08:29 chris they should see they need to send it to the branch the borrower wants it from 08:28 chris yeah the reserve reports arent working properly i dont think 08:28 paul but the branch where the item is must see it i npending reserves (which is not the case iirc) 08:28 chris and is put on the reserves shelf (or whereever the librarian puts reserved books to be picked up) 08:27 chris until it is checked in at the branch the user reserved it at 08:27 paul in our test case ,it's on the shelves of another branch. 08:27 chris so in that case it shouldnt show waiting 08:27 paul right. 08:27 paul the user reserve an item that is in the shelves. 08:27 chris yep so it was on the shelf 08:26 paul but we tested the case where the item was not on issue 08:25 chris 0 or 1 it doesnt really matter, lowest priority is the first one to be filled when the item is returned 08:24 paul atm, if you reserve a given item, the priority is set to 1 even if there is no other reserve. Shouldn't it be set to 0 ? 08:23 chris even though f=null 08:23 paul so line 72 is wrong 08:23 chris I=filled .. it must be waiting 08:23 chris there was some code that was going 08:23 chris if f=w its waiting 08:22 chris yep 08:22 paul P =0, F=W, I=filled 08:22 chris it should only show as waiting if found='w' 08:22 paul and what makes them show as waiting ? 08:22 chris otherwise patrons see its waiting and go to the desk to get it, and then the librarian cant find it 08:21 chris yes i agree with that, as long as items dont show as waiting, when they are still on the shelf, or being transferred 08:18 chris lemme check 08:18 paul do you agree with the doc at C4::Reserves.pm, line 48+ 08:17 chris yep, the problem is they cant agree :-) 08:17 chris i worked on fixing that 08:17 chris because the code wasnt checking for 'w' but was just seeing the itemnumber 08:16 chris there was some problems with items showing as waiting as soon as they were reserved 08:16 paul ? 08:16 paul do you have an idea where it comes from 08:16 paul do you have the same problem ? 08:15 paul seems you removed some code recently (some "priority==0" have been removed) 08:15 chris yep 08:15 paul (when you reserve a given item) 08:15 paul we (SAN & me) have tested reserves on OPAC and something is going wrong with them. 08:14 paul 2nd question is about reserves on OPAC. 08:14 paul right. I realised my mistake just after sending the 1st wrong patch. 08:14 chris *nod* 08:14 paul s/fr_FR/fr-FR/ 08:14 chris yep i pushed it up to joshua .. originally you had one from FR_fr that didnt get approved, but the fr_FR should be fine, ill check with joshua 08:13 paul he seems not to have been approved yet. Do you know why ? 08:13 paul 1st question : i've submitted a patch called "moving fr installer to fr_FR" 08:13 paul thanks. 08:12 chris sure do 08:12 paul i've 2 questions for you, do you have a few minuts ? 08:12 paul hello chris. 08:12 chris hi paul 08:11 paul chris around ? 01:50 gmcharlt thd++ for working on Debian package 01:50 gmcharlt thd: I'll leaving my computer now, but will check tomorrow morning -- good night 01:36 thd and rerun the process with that 01:36 thd to make certain we are fuly synchrosised I will grab the very latest copy from git now 01:35 gmcharlt thd: correct -- at least, I didn't get any errors during make test when I tested half an hour ago 01:34 thd ? 01:34 thd gmcharlt: however, you are claiming I should have no errors from make test even before running checkinstall 01:33 thd at list I will have a debian package out of it 01:33 gmcharlt thd: ok 01:33 thd I will remove the manually created /etc/koha and test with checkinstall again 01:32 thd I did not even notice that was still the error 01:32 thd gmcharlt: I had and have created /etc/koha manually so what is there to complain about? 01:31 thd Cleaning up...OK 01:31 thd **** Installation failed. Aborting package creation. 01:31 thd make: *** [set_koha_ownership] Error 1 01:31 thd Bye. 01:31 thd chown: `/etc/koha': No such file or directory 01:31 thd Installing /usr/share/koha/man/man3/serials::member-search.3pm 01:31 thd Installing /usr/share/koha/man/man3/cataloguing::value_builder::unimarc_field_115b.3pm 01:31 thd I have the following from the end of the process still visible 01:30 thd gmcharlt: I see why the debian package was not created last time I ran checkinstall 01:18 gmcharlt thd: one moment, I'll set up you 01:17 thd gmcharlt do have some place I can send it via ftp? 01:17 gmcharlt yes, please 01:16 thd would you like to see that? 01:16 thd gmcharlt: I built a debian package with checkinstall 01:16 gmcharlt thd: wilde guess -- perhaps a non-GNU make in your path -- does make -v return "GNU Make 3.81"? 01:15 gmcharlt thd: yeah, I'm not seeing a direct reference to ./etc/koha -- KOHA_CONF_DIR = /etc/koha as expected 01:14 thd gmcharlt: I had looked at the Makefile previously and did not identify the problems reported 01:13 thd gmcharlt: http://pastebin.com/m6bb41b07 01:09 gmcharlt hmm, make test works for me, no errors during sudo make install 01:05 gmcharlt thd: I'm also trying an install from the current git head on a Debian VM now 00:58 gmcharlt thd: just checked -- looks like it will work 00:57 thd I am logged in reotely at the moment. Does pastbin work with lynx? 00:55 gmcharlt to avoid flooding the channel with many lines of code or the like 00:55 gmcharlt thd: http://pastebin.com/ -- paste in stuff, it spits back a URL that you post in the IRC channel 00:55 thd when I last updated 00:55 thd gmcharlt: well it was not working two days ago 00:54 gmcharlt thd: yes, it should work from either the git directory or the expand tarball 00:54 thd what is pastebin 00:54 thd gmcharlt: is make test supposed to work from the git directory? 00:53 gmcharlt thd: /etc/koha itself is the default for a 'standard' mode install -- not sure sure where the leading '.' is coming from 00:52 thd also I have failed to mention that most make tests failed because make test did not know where to find the C4 directory so it could not find the correct Perl modules for Koha which necessarily had not been installed yet 00:52 gmcharlt thd: if you have still have the Makefile, could you send me or pastebin the results of 'grep ^export Makefile'? 00:51 thd I repeated the whole process many times with the same errors 00:51 gmcharlt thd: I believe you :) 00:51 thd I can assure that standard was selected as my install method 00:50 thd gmcharlt: that seems like something for the limited access web install 00:49 thd gmcharlt: why ./etc/koha? 00:49 gmcharlt yeah, that is odd 00:49 thd I should have clarified the complaint was about ./etc/koha which I found odd 00:49 gmcharlt thd: the specific IDs shouldn't matter -- right now set_koha_ownership just uses chown 00:48 gmcharlt thd: so if I understand, you were doing a standard mode install but making the some/all of the target directories be relative to the current directory? (hence ./etc/koha instead of /etc/koha?) 00:48 thd the user and group my not have identical IDs for the user and group 00:47 thd gmcharlt: user koha and group koha exist and koha is a member of koha 00:46 thd gmcharlt make install was done as sudo 00:46 thd I created /etc/koha manually and that errror went away 00:46 thd installation complained that it could not put any files in ./etc/koha because /etc/koha does not exist no such file or directory 00:44 gmcharlt are being set to, rather 00:44 thd gmcharlt: I should say that I had an earlier error which I corrected manually 00:44 gmcharlt thd: couple possibilities, then -- first, make install must be done as root or sudo, and target user whose ownership the files are being set up must have exist before you do the make install 00:43 thd gmcharlt: I want my own special symlinks for development 00:43 thd gmcharlt: yes standard 00:42 gmcharlt thd: standard or single-mode install, I assume? 00:40 thd gmcharlt: this is on Debian etch 00:40 thd my last error message which aborted the installation was set_koha_owner Error 1 00:40 gmcharlt what platform? 00:39 thd gmcharlt: I am having som problems with the installer 00:39 gmcharlt thd: go ahead 00:38 thd gmcharlt: maybe I should ask you my question 00:38 gmcharlt thd: kados was on #koha earlier today -- dunno if he'll be conversing later tonight or not 00:36 thd seen kados? 18:46 nengard hi 18:46 chris hey nicole 18:11 Deb cheers all! 18:11 Deb I'll read the wikipedia info on IRC etiquette too. 18:11 Deb Thank you all for your time. 18:11 Deb So, look for an email and a proposed agenda along with a time to meet. I hope you respond. 18:10 Deb Thanks Galen--your crack me up! 18:10 Deb I'll send an email to all Koha users I know about and let them know about the use of this channel 18:10 gmcharlt Deb++ 18:10 gmcharlt also way of signalling agreement or kudos 18:10 gmcharlt it's called karma; it's a way of signaling approval (free_beer++) or not (stealing_candy_from_babies--) 18:09 Deb ok, I'm gonna leave you all to your hard work and I have mine too. 18:09 Deb tnx owen 18:09 Deb what does ++ mean? 18:09 owen https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16 18:08 gmcharlt firefox++ 18:08 Deb oh, I'm not on an IRC client, but I could dl chatzilla. I love ff 18:08 owen Yeah, I don't suppose the web interface does it 18:08 owen I use Chatzilla, an extension for Firefox 18:08 gmcharlt the web interface may not do it, but most stand-alone IRC clients can do it 18:08 Deb ARe there instructions I should read? I just followed the links and started typing. 18:08 owen It's probably different for each IRC client 18:07 Deb Anyway, how come I don't get beeped from the IRC? Do I need to do something? 18:07 Deb they did. I don't know that the same is true for III, being one of the people who is very vocal. 18:06 gmcharlt Deb: yeah; it's my understanding that back in the day the Dynix user community was pretty vocal, and actually got listened to 18:06 Deb And I'm committed (perhaps committable also ;-) 18:05 Deb I know this works and am anxious to have KUDOS do the same for Koha. It really works. I've seen it in action. 18:05 Deb fyi: i got an email from someone who stated the CODI (Dynix user group) actually helped guide the development of the ILS 18:04 owen It's common to use someone's nick if only so that their IRC client beeps at them when someone says their name 18:04 Deb i have no problem using my real name. Most people figure it's me as you did. Thanks for allowing me to use your name. 18:03 gmcharlt others may feel differently about use of nick vs. real name, but I don't think it's much of an issue for most of the regulars on #koha 18:02 gmcharlt Deb: OK with me 18:02 Deb is it appropriate for me to call your 'galen'? I didn't read the irc ettiquette 18:01 Deb great galen 18:01 Deb there are some things to discuss. 18:01 gmcharlt Deb: yeah, it would be easy to set it up to easy the same web IRC interface 18:01 Deb don't stop now owen. 18:01 owen Deb, I don't personally feel the need for a meeting, I just didn't think we should spend too much time dithering about it 18:00 Deb If we needed that, would it be the same as logging in here? 18:00 gmcharlt should have said, *if* the community finds it too distracting 18:00 Deb Galen, that'd be great! 18:00 gmcharlt and if later on, the community finds it too distracting, it is very easy to create a #koha-devel or #kudos 18:00 Deb Did I read you correctly? 18:00 atz owen: yeah, or #koha-curmudgeons 18:00 Deb I think some would like a meeting immediately--Owen you're one of them. 17:59 Deb ok then I'll send out an email stating that we can use this channel effective immediately, ok? 17:59 Deb perhaps 20 17:59 gmcharlt that would be great, actually, to have that many 17:59 owen If the developers don't like it, they can always create a #koha-devel 17:59 Deb well, that's dreamin' 17:59 Deb ok, but there could be up to 50 people 17:58 atz lol ^^ well said, owen 17:58 owen No one is going to get mad at you for talking about Koha in #koha 17:58 atz use this channel 17:58 Deb ? 17:58 Deb do what atz 17:58 gmcharlt Deb: IRC actually lends itself to a fair degree of intermingled conversations, so I wouldn't worry about it 17:58 Deb oh good, it's not the cadence or the word choices then 17:58 atz Deb: you should do it. 17:58 gmcharlt Deb: the topic of course 17:57 owen Well, you did say you had just sent me an email :) 17:57 Deb what gives me away? 17:57 Deb would we collide? 17:57 gmcharlt Deb: (figured it was you :) ) -- #koha isn't just for developers, it's also a support channel 17:57 owen Hi Deb, I thought that must be you. Sorry, I just got back to my computer after being pulled away 17:57 Deb say after 3pm? 17:57 Deb Would having a meeting later in the day be problematic? 17:56 atz type: /nick YourName 17:56 gmcharlt CGI838: sounds OK to me as well 17:56 CGI838 Oh, and how do I change my name so you can see who I am? 17:56 atz i don't set policy, but it makes sense to me 17:55 CGI838 Just testing the waters. 17:55 CGI838 Don't need an answer immediately. 17:55 CGI838 How would that go over with all of you developers? 17:55 CGI838 Some of the Koha User Group members would like to use this channel for meetings 17:55 atz CGI838: it varies, but overall traffic is pretty light 17:54 CGI838 Question: is there a time when this channel is not used much? 16:45 gmcharlt you're welcome 16:42 fbcit tnx for the help 16:42 fbcit I got the script working using Firebug 16:41 fbcit heh 16:41 gmcharlt fbcit: yep; really, the only thing Java and Javascript have in common are the four letters j-a-v-a 16:40 fbcit FWIW, it turns out that javascript does not require declaration of vars and once used vars are global to the script... 16:25 fbcit I'm trying to do some mods to barcode.pl 16:25 gmcharlt fbcit: the Firebug FF plugin is useful 16:25 fbcit Javascript... 16:24 gmcharlt fbcit: java inside HTML (as opposed to Javascript?) 16:24 fbcit gmcharlt: is there a quick & easy way to debug java inside hmtl? 16:21 fbcit k 16:21 gmcharlt so in your code, fnum would have to be declared before the first loop 16:19 gmcharlt no, I think if you declare inside a loop, it's scope ls limited to the loop block 16:19 fbcit here's the code: http://privatepaste.com/e2RidHdIfA 16:17 fbcit or do I need to int it outside the loop 16:17 fbcit if I initialize a var inside of a loop can it be passed out of the loop? 16:17 fbcit java question 16:17 gmcharlt fbcit: yep 16:16 fbcit gmcharlt: still around? 15:13 atz I studied a lot of Java in school.... and haven't touched it much since. 15:09 gmcharlt fbcit: I'm no guru, but I know a little bit about Java 14:58 fbcit any java guru's around? 14:57 fbcit g'morning koha 14:54 CGI861 do you have a minute? 14:54 CGI861 owen I just wrote you 14:39 owen Some, CGI861 14:34 CGI861 anyone on 13:44 paul (Ohio and another one, don't remember which one) 13:44 owen Yeah, I expected the decision to have been made for us by the time we had our primary 13:44 paul (at least that's what radio stations reports here in france...) 13:44 paul seems that Ohio will be important for Democrat candidate this year... 13:43 paul hi owen & kados. 13:43 owen Hi kados, long time no see 13:43 kados hey owen 13:39 owen Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, etc., #koha