Time Nick Message 12:21 fbcit-1 g'morning koha 12:21 lloyd_ hola 12:30 fbcit-1 atz: C4::Debug ++ 13:47 kados hehe 13:47 kados it's the damned material types 13:48 kados ie, we either tie ourselves to MARC21 and UNIMARC-specific material types ... 13:48 kados or everyone gets to make their own up :-) 13:48 owen I don't really even understand what the issue is :) 13:48 kados hehe 13:48 kados well, foxnorth could probably help out with this tone 13:49 kados foxnorth: do you read the leader for determining the material type in biblios? 13:49 foxnorth yeah...that's correct isn't it?? 13:49 kados no, it's right 13:49 kados for MARC21 13:49 foxnorth i've missed the discussion on oss4lib... 13:49 foxnorth ah gotcha 13:50 kados so the definition of BOOK is something like substr $leader, 6,2 = 'am' ? 13:50 foxnorth right 13:50 kados that right? 13:50 kados yea, so basically, someone could whip up a few simple rules for MARC21 and equiv rules for UNIMARC and handle at least books and journals properly for COinS 13:51 foxnorth and how does unimarc handle mat types? 13:51 kados I dunno :-) 13:51 hdl In 200$b 13:52 kados hdl: is that an authorized value list for UNIMARC? 13:52 hdl But should also be in 100$a which is a coded field 13:52 paul kados: yep. 13:52 paul (hello all) 13:52 kados paul: hi! :- 13:52 kados ) 13:52 fbcit-1 hi paul 13:52 fbcit-1 hi kados 13:52 foxnorth hdl, so that material type designation is in both 200$b and 100$a? 13:52 kados paul: what' the value for 'BOOK' and the value for 'Article'? 13:53 hdl We use 200$b in Koha 13:53 foxnorth ah 13:54 paul 200$b is an authorized value, but only for convenience for us in Koha. 13:54 paul otherwise, it's a free content field 13:54 foxnorth ah i see 13:54 foxnorth thanks 13:54 kados paul: so how can we determine if something is a 'book' ? 13:54 kados in unimarc 13:54 paul 100$a I think 13:55 hdl sorry 13:55 hdl leader is to be used. 13:55 kados paul: what valie? 13:55 kados value I mean 13:55 hdl http://www.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni.htm 13:55 paul hdl is right : not 100 but leader 13:55 hdl a = language materials, printed 13:56 kados ahh, so it's the same? 13:56 hdl m = monographic bibliographic item complete in one physical part or intended to be completed in a finite number of parts. 13:56 kados my $fmt = substr $record->leader(), 6,2; 13:56 kados = am 13:56 hdl For position 6 and 7 13:56 kados great, that's easy then 13:56 kados OK, so if anyone asks, we only imiplement COinS for books, and it only shows up for books too! :-) 13:58 paul (on phone) 14:52 Brooke howdy 16:28 lloyd_ I don't suppose anyone has a Koha Icon do they? 16:34 gmcharlt lloyd_: what sort of icon -- something that can't be copied from koha.org or Koha itself? 16:37 lloyd_ I've made a custom version of firefox, with splash screen all the correct security settings, no menus, no toolbars and portable. I call it kohafox, I just want an icon for it really :) 16:38 atz i don't think there is a current one 16:38 atz other than the "Koha" text 16:39 atz there used to be an odd purple blob 16:39 atz but you wouldn't want that :) 16:39 lloyd_ I quite like the favicon, but i'd have to recreate it for 48x48 16:40 owen lloyd_: I might have a file for that 16:40 owen I think I was the one that made the little 'k' favicon... 16:42 lloyd_ If anyone else is intereted in this package i'll replace the splash screen for something generic and send to contribs 16:44 owen I'm sure there would be interest 16:46 lloyd_ Did you see those additions to the bug? 16:47 owen Yes, thanks 16:48 owen lloyd_, something like this? http://zivotdesign.com/download/koha-icon-48x48.png 16:48 atz looks nice 16:48 lloyd_ Yeah perfect! 16:48 atz owen: copied you on the toolbar shelves patch last night 16:49 owen lloyd_: I can send you an eps file of the current koha logo if that would be useful to you 16:49 owen Yeah, thanks atz, it seems to be working perfectly 16:49 atz great! 16:49 lloyd_ sure, sounds great 16:49 lloyd_ cheers for that 17:00 lloyd_ right off home, laters 20:02 CGI236 Hi Rosalie 20:02 Rosa Hi 20:02 CGI236 I'm joining as CGI236 20:02 CGI236 It's Deb 20:02 CGI236 How are you? 20:02 chris hi Rosalie and Deb :) 20:03 CGI236 hi chris 20:03 paul_koha hi rosalie, chris & Deb. 20:03 Rosa Ah, all is explained! I'm fine, on a warm and cloudy summer morning. How's it with you? 20:03 paul (/me not here, working on some private affairs ;-) ) 20:03 chris hi paul you're up late 20:03 chris ahh :) 20:03 CGI236 It's -14 degrees here. 20:03 paul 9PM here 20:03 Rosa Celsius? 20:04 CGI236 Are we all here to discuss the Koha User's group? 20:04 Rosa Fahrenheit is even worse 20:04 CGI236 No fahrenheit. 20:04 Rosa Ouch 20:04 chris yikes thats cold 20:04 CGI236 Is that Paul Poulain? 20:04 Rosa No to you question Deb. Most of them are developers 20:05 Rosa Chris might remind me how to set up a private channel? 20:05 paul CGI236: yep, it's Paul poulain 20:05 CGI236 That's what I thought. I'll just start 'talking' ok? 20:05 CGI236 Paul--you're my idol! 20:05 paul (my wife is reading, pls don't continue :-D ) 20:06 chris you just type /join #channelname .. but deb want be able to join that using the web based chat 20:06 Rosa Do the rest of you want us to clutter up your space, or would you rather we went elsewhere? 20:06 chris here is fine with me :) 20:06 CGI236 Rosa--I'm working on the agenda 20:06 CGI236 What I could use help with is FaceBook. Do you know it? 20:07 CGI236 And writing copy--just to bounce ideas off of a few of you. 20:07 atz CGI236: where are you at? I'm heading to Minneapolis this weekend... supposedly -30 F last night. 20:07 CGI236 I'm in Minneapolis. Where are you atz? 20:07 atz columbus now.... gf in in richfield 20:07 Rosa I know of Facebook, but I've only looked at it a couple of times 20:08 CGI236 Ok, I'll keep working on FaceBook. How do you feel about being a sounding board? 20:08 Rosa Fine 20:08 CGI236 And also helping come up with a strategy for creating a presentation for 20:08 CGI236 a Koha Installfest? 20:09 CGI236 I don't anticipate that you would be coming to PLA, but I'd like to accomodate 20:09 owen Deb, type "/nick Deb" and you can be yourself instead of CGI236 20:09 CGI236 two of the requests for KUDOS. And ok Owen I will. 20:10 CGI236 "/nick Deb" 20:10 Rosa without the " 20:10 Rosa That's better! 20:10 Deb sorry been a while since I've used IRC 20:11 Deb Just a sec let me find the other item. 20:11 Rosa You're working on a presentation for a Koha installfest? 20:12 Deb Yes. Someone from the KUDOS group is requesting it. 20:12 Deb Give me a sec. Amy De Groff from Howard County will be joining us. I need to send her the url for the irc. back in a sec... 20:15 Deb Data migration workshop 20:15 Deb I will need to find people who can do this in Minneapolis during PLA. 20:15 Deb Do you know of anyone? 20:16 CGI507 hello - Amy De Groff here 20:16 Rosa Hello Amy. I'm Rosalie from New Zealand 20:16 Rosa Horowhenua Library rust 20:16 Deb Hi Amy. type in "/nick Amy" without the quotes and you can be Amy 20:17 Amy super -- okay how can I help you with user group 20:17 Deb Amy, we're discussing PLA and the two requests I've gotten for programs 20:17 Deb One is installfest for Koha, the other is Migration workshop. 20:17 Deb Amy are you coming to PLA? 20:18 Amy yes. 20:18 Deb Can you do either one of these programs? 20:18 Amy in theory, we will have migrated data by then -- so I could do the migration one (with back up from technical staff - LibLime? or mine?) 20:18 Amy install fest not my thing / I would defer to others 20:18 Amy by THIS pla --right ( in 8 weeks) 20:19 Deb Yes, I can ask LibLime if they could have someone help us. I will first ask the KUDOS group if there's anyone who can take this on as well. 20:19 Deb Yes-PLA in 8 weeks. 20:20 Rosa I'm good at dumb questions. If you want someone to spot the black spots for complete dummies, I can help with that 20:20 Deb What I will do if it's ok with you and Rosalie is 1. Create an Agenda and send to Amy, Rosalie, and John Brice, who's also helping to organzie this event 20:20 Deb Then we can hash out details. 20:21 Deb What would help me is if someone would be willing to help read and write the program--more eyeballs the better. 20:21 Amy yes 20:21 Amy can do 20:21 atz For the migration workshop, can you characterize the platforms being migrated *from*? Mostly III or Sirsi? 20:22 Deb Since Amy, Rosalie, and John are seasoned Koha users all 3 of you can help build the programs. 20:22 Deb Can I ask--who is atz? 20:22 atz Hi, I'm Joe Atzberger. 20:22 atz LibLime system admin. 20:22 Deb ATZ, great question and good point--YES! 20:23 Deb Joe, are you coming to PLA? 20:23 atz Not that I know of... yet. 20:23 Deb This is all in the preplanning stages at the moment. 20:24 atz I sometimes seem last to know these kind of plans though.... 20:24 Deb What I can commit to is sending all of those interested my ideas thus far and we can hash them out via email. 20:24 atz I will be at code4lib in Portland next month though. 20:24 Deb Will that work? 20:24 Rosa Yes, it will for me 20:24 Amy Yes, Deb. super. I can represent HCL on a data workshop - and am happy to review text / agenda / ideas. 20:25 Deb atz would you like to be included? I include Josh Ferraro, Tina Burger, and Debra Denault now, adding you is no problem. 20:25 gmcharlt Deb: could you add me as well (Galen Charlton) 20:26 Deb Oh for crying out loud--does liblime have it's own listserv for all the employees?:-)) 20:26 Deb Of course Galen--be happy to. 20:26 atz Galen is more of an expert on data migration than I am. 20:26 gmcharlt Deb: thanks! 20:27 Deb atz I'll still include you. I will send emails to all of you. Please add all your 2 cents worth. 20:27 Deb I will get out the preliminary agenda with my thoughts by end of day Monday, January 28th. Will that work for all of you? 20:27 Rosa Yes, sounds good 20:28 Amy yes. plan is to do this at Koha users group meeting? Or is this an agenda item at PLA 20:28 Deb To clarify Amy, the Koha Users Group aka KUDOS will be held at PLA, but is not part of the PLA program. 20:28 Deb The same as we had it at ALAMW08. 20:29 Amy ah got it. I'll be there and will do what i can prior 20:29 Deb Josh indicated there were a few libraries that wanted a KUDOS meeting at PLA. 20:29 Deb Since it's in Minneapolis I said I would work on planning and organizing it again. 20:30 Deb Amy not to worry. I'm a bit of a task master for myself. I'll work to not let any detail drop. 20:31 Deb atz I would love to go to code4lib, but I don't know enough programming YET. 20:31 Deb Amy and Rosa, I think we have a gameplan. 20:31 Deb Any other thoughts comments? 20:32 Amy nope all good 20:32 Deb Sorry if I seem short. I don't want to take too much time from the developers on the IRC. 20:32 Amy got it -- see you later 20:32 Deb Rosa? 20:33 Rosa We'll carry on on Monday, then? Bye 20:33 Deb Bye. Thanks for letting us have our chat. 20:33 atz that was more productive than most of the chat we have on normally 20:38 chris heh 20:39 fbcit-1 and I hate dialup... 21:21 kados was that howard county? 21:21 chris was who? 21:22 kados Deb and Rosa? 21:22 chris naw 21:22 kados and Amy 21:22 chris deb is deb bergeron 21:22 kados ahh 21:22 chris talking about Kudos, and picking Rosalies brains 23:20 Deb on Koha 2.2.9 how do you migrate a patron database into Koha? 23:27 CGI846 is anyone on this channel? 23:38 atz sure 23:38 atz oh.... too late