Time  Nick       Message
12:53 fbcit-away hdl: u around?
15:14 fbcit      g'morning koha
15:14 atz        greets fbcit
15:44 fbcit      any opinions on a css editor other than text editors?
15:45 atz        fbcit: there are some good firefox plugins
15:45 atz        they allow realtime re-rendering based on css edits
15:47 atz        yeah, i've used that... i forget if (the otherwise excellent) firebug allows the same thing
15:48 fbcit      can more than one plugin be run?
15:48 atz        sure, i usually have firebug and the tidy/w3c validator
15:52 atz        yeah... firebug seems to be the total package
15:53 atz        does the same realtime changes, shows a color block on mouseover of #000AAA (hex color) terms, and checks syntax
15:56 fbcit      this should make life a little easier... ;-)
15:59 atz        it's funny how 8 or 10 years ago that functionality would have been part of some IDE
16:00 fbcit      apparently it is part of Visual Studio from M$
16:16 atz        no problem.  it's the availability of stuff like firebug that makes FF that much cooler.
20:09 Brooke     Howdy
20:09 chris      hey brooke
20:09 Brooke     :)
20:10 kados      hey brooke
20:10 Brooke     :) ++
20:11 Brooke     so, I must ask the question on everyone's mind
20:11 Brooke     when the hell is 3.0 coming out?
20:11 kados      when it's ready
20:11 kados      we humbly await your patches :-)
20:12 Brooke     is there an unstable version out yet?
20:12 kados      no, we're waiting on the installer to be written
20:13 chris      you can install it from git, if you have a bunch of patience and time to read irc logs
20:13 Brooke     *nod*
20:13 Brooke     how long will the installer take?
20:14 Brooke     I'm trying not to be a pain, but there are an increasing number of people asking me about this
20:15 kados      can't squeeze blood from a stone
20:17 chris      its pretty hard to predict, its getting pretty close tho, its just an easy installer that is left big to do
20:17 Brooke     *nod*
20:23 Brooke     so how does a non programmer throw in some help?
20:24 kados      still have access to that v3 install brooke?
20:25 Brooke     nope, it keeps wiping my easy to remember login and password
20:26 kados      :)
20:26 Brooke     007 keeps blowing his cover
20:29 kados      I was thinking the other evening I should whip up a project-wide v3 demo of the opac and staff client that auto-updates nightly
20:29 Brooke     good thinking :)
20:29 Brooke     that would set jittery folks unjittery
20:30 Brooke     because I could point to it and say
20:30 kados      who's jittery?
20:30 Brooke     "There! Behold! I did not maketh shite up!"
20:35 Brooke     hi mason
08:13 JYL57      Hello koha world !
08:14 chris      hi jyl57
08:15 JYL57      hi chris, are you talented in mysql on debian ?! I wonder a few things after a disc crash...
08:15 chris      oh no, disc crash doesnt sound good
08:16 JYL57      :-) 24H mission is mine !
08:16 JYL57      have preserved my /var directory so I should be able to come back...
08:16 chris      excellent
08:17 JYL57      But I've installed Etch instead of my old Sarge and was also in an old koha version
08:18 JYL57      So I've to choose what to do now... 1) Go back to mysql 4.1 and my old koha version
08:18 JYL57      2) Try to use that data to go for a more recent upgrade
08:19 chris      what version were you running?
08:19 chris      koha 2.2.9 works ok with mysql 5
08:20 JYL57      I'm not sure about my old version... 2.2.4 I think
08:21 chris      do you have any experience with Xen jyl?
08:22 chris      you could run up a xen instance with the old debian running in that
08:22 JYL57      nope
08:22 JYL57      haha that would be great