Time  Nick         Message
12:49 fbcit        g'morning koha
13:27 owen         Hey #koha, anyone else getting an erroneous "You must define a budget in Administration" message from aqui-home.pl?
14:49 owen         Hi kados
14:53 kados        hey owen
14:56 kados        hmmm, strange
14:57 kados        so that's two bugs then: acqui-home.pl and additem.pl?
14:57 kados        bugs--
14:59 fbcit        kados: once I enter a marc record, is there anything else I need to do to be able to search on it?
14:59 kados        fbcit: not if you have zebraqueue running
14:59 kados        fbcit: otherwise you need to index it in zebra manually (yuk)
14:59 kados        select count(*) from zebraqueue;
14:59 fbcit        I'm running w/o zebra right now.
15:00 kados        ahh, so the answer is no
15:00 fbcit        in opac, on a title search koha says: No results match your search for “�...
15:01 fbcit        I'm using a single term which is in the title
15:01 kados        I know the no-zebra search has had a few bugs, I'm not sure of the current state of the opac
15:01 fbcit        ahh
15:02 kados        can I see?
15:02 fbcit        I don't have it mapped to the outside world yet. :-(
15:02 kados        well, that bug shouldn't be hard to fix
15:02 kados        can you test searching from the staff client?
15:02 kados        see if the bug happens there?
15:03 fbcit        yes, with the same compliant.
15:03 kados        ok, so is it the advanced search page? or the global search header?
15:03 fbcit        advanced search... I'll check the global search...
15:05 fbcit        kados: same problem both places
15:05 fbcit        something in search.pl?
15:05 kados        hmmm
15:05 kados        I will test on my install, give me a sec to switch from zebra to no-zebra
15:08 kados        fbcit: if it's any consolation, I'm getting the same prob :-)
15:08 kados        hdl: you around?
15:09 hdl          yes
15:09 fbcit        I double checked with a SELECT and the records are in biblioitems...
15:09 hdl          hi
15:10 kados        hdl: just curious if you can shed light on the status of the nozebra search
15:11 hdl          it works for me
15:11 hdl          I have done some patches though
15:12 hdl          in order multiple word search to "AND" terms
15:12 kados        hdl: can you clarify the specific sysprefs you have defined or not defined?
15:12 kados        fbcit: it's probably a matter of no-zebra can't do stuff zebra can, so it needs to be turned off or sth
15:13 kados        fbcit: queryfuzzy, querystemming, queryweightfields probably need to be off
15:13 hdl          NoZebra
15:14 hdl          kados fbcit : kados is right. queryfuzzy weightfields and stemming donot work with NoZebra at the moment
15:14 fbcit        brb
15:15 kados        fbcit: turn off queryfuzzy, querystemming, queryweightfields
15:16 kados        fbcit: works now
15:16 kados        hdl: the installer should turn those off if the user selects nozebra
15:16 fbcit        k
15:17 fbcit        under global?
15:17 hdl          kados : I agree.
15:17 hdl          But cannot make it right now
15:17 hdl          assing the bug to me
15:19 kados        ok
15:19 kados        fbcit: yes, global sysprefs
15:19 kados        fbcit: search for 'query'
15:19 kados        fbcit: and you'll see the three you need to change
15:19 fbcit        I set them off, but still no joy...
15:19 fbcit        brb
15:20 kados        misc/migration_tools/rebuild_nozebra.pl
15:20 kados        try that
15:22 fbcit        ***********************************
15:22 fbcit        ***** building BIBLIO indexes *****
15:22 fbcit        ***********************************
15:22 fbcit         2
15:22 fbcit        Inserting records...
15:22 fbcit        91
15:22 fbcit        biblios done
15:22 fbcit        but still no search... :-(
15:22 kados        you have all three query sysprefs turned off?
15:22 kados        sorry, can you double check? :-)
15:23 fbcit        QueryFuzzy	 If ON, enables fuzzy option for searches  	 OFF  	Edit  	Delete
15:23 fbcit        QueryStemming	If ON, enables query stemming 	OFF 	Edit 	Delete
15:23 fbcit        QueryWeightFields	If ON, enables field weighting 	OFF
15:24 fbcit        :-)
15:24 hdl          fbcit: sometimes, OFF is not 0 value but 'OFF'
15:25 hdl          (I had this WEIRD behaviour)
15:25 hdl          So I had to set it on then off again
15:25 hdl          +
15:25 hdl          Maybe NoZebraIndexes is not set for you.
15:25 hdl          Please have a look.
15:28 fbcit        hdl:| NoZebraIndexes | 0     |         | Enter a specific hash for NoZebra indexes. Enter : 'indexname' => '100a,245a,500*','index2' => '...' | Free |
15:28 fbcit        Query* = '0'
15:28 fbcit        also
15:28 hdl          :(
15:28 fbcit        set on and then off again....
15:28 hdl          So... You should make
15:28 hdl          misc/migration_tools/rebuild_nozebra.pl -s
15:29 hdl          to set it to a first "proper" value.
15:29 hdl          Here you index Nothing.
15:29 fbcit        should see things like:
15:29 fbcit        0 at /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8/C4/Biblio.pm line 3128.
15:29 fbcit                        'title' => '245a,245b at /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8/C4/Biblio.pm line 3128.
15:29 fbcit        ?
15:31 fbcit        it works now... :-)
15:32 fbcit        hdl: so, exactly what was wrong? besides all of the zebra prefs set wrong?
15:32 fbcit        well...
15:33 hdl          Normally,
15:33 fbcit        it works in opac, but not in the backside...
15:33 fbcit        staff client...
15:33 fbcit        that is
15:33 hdl          have you tried in the main staff search box ?
15:33 hdl          or in advanced search ?
15:34 hdl          In advancedsearch, you have to build indexes.
15:34 fbcit        hdl: works in the global search header, but not in the advanced search...
15:35 hdl          yeah.
15:35 fbcit        use the rebuild script again?
15:35 hdl          what do you have now in NoZebraIndexes ?
15:35 fbcit         0
15:36 hdl          Then it wouldnot be worth rebuilding indexes.
15:36 fbcit        what should I have there?
15:36 hdl          Something like :
15:37 fbcit        my bad...
15:37 fbcit        'title' => '245a,245b', 'author' => '100a', 'isbn' => '020a', 'issn' => '022a',...
15:38 hdl          http://pastebin.com/m7dbc2c28
15:38 hdl          yes quite
15:38 hdl          If you have that.
15:38 hdl          Then you can rebuildnozebra.pl
15:38 fbcit        so this associates friendly names with marc tags?
15:40 fbcit        still no advanced search...
15:42 fbcit        rebuild_nozebra.pl appears to be complaining about something...
15:44 kados        fbcit: I can confirm adv search doesn't work in nozebra mode
15:44 kados        hdl: it works for you?
16:02 hdl          kados :
16:02 hdl          yes.
16:03 hdl          http://o10.hdlaurent.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
16:04 hdl          or o14.hdlaurent.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
16:04 hdl          kados : can you detail your NoZebraIndexes ?
16:08 hdl          at the moment it doesnot work... I am reindexing.
16:26 fbcit        kados: in a marc record I notice that the dewey number is segmented with '/'... is there any logic to where the /'s go?
16:26 fbcit        after decimal, cutter, etc?
16:28 gmcharlt     fbcit: there is logic, but not implicit in the structure
16:28 gmcharlt     represents places where you can shorten the DDC call number
16:29 fbcit        gmcharlt:So when entering local DDC data, how can I determine where to put the /'s?
16:30 gmcharlt     fbcit: you don't have to worry about that -- specifying places where you can shorten the number is a service the LC/big libraries  provides to users of their MARC records
16:30 fbcit        tnx gmcharlt
16:47 kados        hdl: is paul around?
16:47 hdl          no he is in paris today
16:47 kados        ok
16:47 hdl          he shall be here tomorrow
16:48 hdl          why do you ask ?
16:48 kados        I have questions about some patches from paul
16:48 kados        I emailed but haven't heard back
16:48 kados        I would like to clear out all the patches
17:23 owen         I find that now a librarian must have the "catalogue" flag set in order to be able to log in to the staff client. Isn't that new?
17:24 kados        hmmm
17:24 kados        how new? :-)
17:25 kados        I think it's the intended purpose of catalogue flag
17:25 owen         The lower-priviledged staff user in my test installation couldn't log in anymore, and I wasn't sure why
17:27 owen         Hm, maybe it's all in my head.
17:28 kados        hehe
17:29 owen         about.pl requires parameters permissions?
17:29 kados        yea, that's silly
17:29 kados        should just require catalogue permission
18:33 fbcit        kados: should I file a bug on that search issue in the advanced search in the staff client?
18:34 kados        definitely
18:34 kados        it's something that hdl needs to fix
18:55 fbcit        does koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/custommade/pl/template.tmpl still apply?
19:10 kados        what the heck is custommade?
19:16 fbcit        from templates.readme
19:16 fbcit        the path should be koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/custommade
19:17 fbcit        better check w/ hdl, but templates.readme probably needs to be updated.
19:19 owen         gmcharlt: are you around?
19:22 kados        owen: I've got a mtg with him in 45 minutes or so, he may have stepped out for lunch
19:22 owen         Okay
19:51 gmcharlt     owen: what's up?
19:52 owen         gmcharlt: In NPL's dev_week installation, one of the columns that appears in the list of items in additem.pl is "Status (onloan)"
19:53 owen         How can I get that to appear in 3.0?
19:53 owen         Is it something about my framework?
19:53 kados        owen: that's in the authorized values
19:54 kados        i think anyway
19:54 kados        hmmm
19:54 kados        owen: NPL doesn't use that, do they?
19:54 kados        I _think_ that's a deprecated status
19:54 gmcharlt     items.onloan?
19:55 kados        ahh, right
19:55 kados        ok, so this is actually a case where 3.0 is behaving better than dev_week :-)
19:55 kados        owen: check the 'hidden' value in your framework for that subfield
19:56 kados        it's hidden because you wouldn't want the cataloger to edit that field
19:56 gmcharlt     when set, items.onloan should have the due date
19:56 gmcharlt     and in framework is 942$q
19:57 kados        yea, and invisible from the MARC editor
20:14 owen         So I need to change the settings for 952q, right? Change hidden to... 0? That puts it into the 'edit item' form, but doesn't display it in the list of items above
20:14 kados        why do you need it there ? :-)
20:17 owen         Because it gives clear feedback to the user about which items are checked out?
20:24 kados        hmmm
20:24 kados        owen: is there a bug for this issue?
20:25 owen         No, because I thought it was a configuration thing
20:27 kados        I'd whip up a bug report and assign it to me, and be sure to include an example from NPL so I don't forget the specific use case :-)
20:27 kados        I should have time this afternoon/evening for it
21:06 aklibrarian1 kados, I just came back so I don't know how long since you said you were winnowing down you list, but I have some things you can add to it if you want.  :)
21:07 kados        aklibrarian1: hehe
21:07 kados        aklibrarian1: sup?
21:09 kados        some good'uns w/respect to templates
23:56 aklibrarian1 Hi again kados.  I hate it when work interrupts my Koha fun.
23:56 kados        hiya aklibrarian1
23:57 kados        work-- :-)