Time Nick Message 21:42 ryan ok 21:41 owen ...happen otherwise, I mean 21:41 owen It might be better to put it outside yui-g if you can, I'm not sure what will happen 21:41 owen yui-g is the container for the yui-u divs, which are the columns 21:40 ryan will that cause any problems btwn yui-g and yui-u_first ? 21:38 ryan owen: i'll place at top of <div class="yui-g"> . You can make whatever changes from there 21:37 ryan yep 21:35 owen ryan, I'd use <div class="error"> for that 21:31 owen Yes, that makes sense 21:23 ryan make sense ? 21:23 ryan as opposed to 'too short password', which should stay on edit page 21:23 ryan but show a msg saying 'password update' failed 21:22 ryan rather than reload the same edit page, it makes more sense to me to return to member dtails 21:22 ryan submits the form-- 21:22 ryan a circ staff edits a higher-priv staff borrower 21:21 ryan in the example above, 21:21 owen I'm not sure what you mean 21:20 ryan i don't want to have to reload same page on partial failure 21:20 owen It's one of those things on my to-do list 21:19 owen ryan: I haven't really standardized the styling of warnings/errors/messages yet 21:17 ryan e.g., permissions on editing a user who has 'permissions' privilege when you only have 'borrowers' permission 21:16 ryan owen: i need to do a couple permissions changes... 21:15 ryan owen: is class=warning|error the only standardised way of presenting errors ? 21:09 fbcit hehe 21:05 fbcit so expectation is raised while resources either stay the same or are reduced. 21:05 fbcit the problem is that the problems they introduce consume any real time they save... ;-) 21:04 fbcit owen: computers only serve to deepen the delusion that we can get more done in the same amount of time... 20:47 owen fbcit, it's time like these when you wonder about conputers' supposed time-saving qualities 19:55 gmcharlt no problem 19:53 fbcit sorry 19:53 fbcit it applies over the first I sent 19:53 fbcit gmcharlt: I sent a patch to add the correction. 19:49 fbcit 1 sec 19:49 gmcharlt ok -- will you resend it? 19:49 fbcit gmcharlt: I found an error in the patch I sent you earlier... 19:40 CGI828 Okay, thanks very much for your help. I may be back again to ask more questions. Have a great weekend! 19:39 owen Windows releases always lag behind the regular official release 19:39 owen I don't know. I know there are lots of folks who are interested in getting Koha to work on Windows, so I'm assuming they'll try to make it happen. 19:37 CGI828 Will 3.0 work on Windows platform? 19:37 owen 2.2.8 is considered stable. When 3.0 is officially released, it will be considered stable. But not until that official release. 19:36 CGI828 Uh, okay. :) So, the latest for Windows platform is 2.2.8? which is not classified as stable? 2.2 is considered the latest stable? Will 3.0 be classified as stable? 19:36 owen And by official release, I mean a version that has been classified as stable and ready for production use 19:35 owen Koha.org has the latest official release. If you want the latest development version (including the latest features added by Liblime and all the other Koha developers), you have to access it through the version-control system..and there it gets pretty technical. 19:34 CGI828 So there is a lag time between Koha and Liblime on swapping and incorporating features? I guess I'm trying to figure out who has the latest downloadable version. Sorry for the dumb questions. 19:33 owen Anyone with the technical skills can download and install the development version, which has all the latest features (and the latest bugs) 19:33 owen But you might have to wait until the next major release to get those new features, unless you're installing the development version 19:32 owen Yes, ultimately. 19:32 CGI828 Do you guys get that version, and make it downloadable on Koha.org? 19:32 owen So you might hire them to develop a feature that your library wants, and when they're done with it the feature will be added to the official Koha version. 19:32 owen Liblime does build unique capabilities into Koha, but they integrate those capabilities into the official release 19:31 CGI828 Oh, okay, so Liblime truly isn't building unique capabilities, they truly just do services. Its weird that their website currently describes their products as being capable of doing all this stuff. So it seems it's ready to go, they don't indicate that it's just a preview. 19:30 owen ...And since Koha is open source, anyone can offer any customized version that they want! 19:29 owen The hybrid version was the first test of the Zebra fast searching 19:29 owen The demo that they have on their site is like a preview version of Koha 3.0, an unreleased hybrid of the 2.x series and 3.0 19:26 CGI828 Oh okay. So how is it that Liblime can offer the zebra and Amazon book reviews. Are there a different set of developers? I'm confused. 19:25 owen 2.2.8 doesn't have the zoom fast search...and while it /may/ have Amazon book covers, it doesn't have the other Amazon-added features like book reviews and similar items 19:24 owen We're working actively on 3.0 now, and hope to have a developer's release out within a couple of weeks 19:24 owen The zebra fast search demoed on the Liblime site is a preview of functionality that will be in 3.0, which will be out...uh...soon. 19:22 CGI828 So does it mean that the downloadable version on Koha.org website also has the Amazon cover images capabilities, and the zebra fast search, rss and book bag features? Or do I need to get that from Liblime. 19:21 CGI828 I meant the downloadable version on Koha.org website, which also has a demo version which seems to be hosted by Liblime. I don't have the school demo. 19:19 owen CGI828: Are you talking about the demo on Liblime.com, or do they have a Koha demo up for your library school? 19:17 owen CGI828: Liblime is a Koha support company, so they'll host Koha for you, or install it for you, or develop new Koha features for you 19:15 CGI828 Hello, my name is Judy, I'm a library student in the US, not very technical, and learning about Koha. I'm really confused as to what the differences are between Koha downloadable on Koha.org (2.2.8 for Windows) and the ones offered on Liblime. I'm getting the sense that Liblime uses the same software, they just add on services like hosting and packaging? Can someone please correct me? Thanks in advance for your help. Also I see that 3.0, when is that due out? 19:13 ryan found it 19:13 ryan nm 19:13 ryan i can't find it 19:12 ryan owen: link to the wiki page detailing the interface design goals ? 19:11 owen Yes, a few 19:08 CGI828 Hello, first time here, is anyone there? 17:45 gmcharlt fbcit: got the patch, thanks 17:42 gmcharlt I'll forward, but he does respond to the address he uses for postings on koha-devel 17:41 ryan win 4 17:39 fbcit if you have an email for slef, I'll forward him a copy... or you can. 17:39 fbcit gmcharlt: check your inbox... I sent the correct patch 17:02 owen It certainly could. We'd just have to set (or identify) a variable in opac-advsearch.pl that could trigger the alternate appearance 17:01 ryan owen: can't masthead diff be handled with tmpl vars ? 16:48 chris i think, we let kados catch up, then rebase and resend those ones 16:47 chris hmm first 3 patches wouldnt apply owen 16:45 owen opac-advsearch.tmpl is probably going to change some more, though, as we do more refining of that interface 16:44 owen The reason for using a different masthead inc for the advsearch is to remove possible confusion over the "quick search" form being on the same page as the advanced search form 16:43 owen paul, I've CC'ed you a patch for opac-advsearch.tmpl and mastead-basic.inc 16:20 gmcharlt paul: thanks -- mysql version diff is interesting 16:20 paul gmcharlt: /me just added a comment on bug 1634 (incorrect encoding) 16:19 chris cool 16:16 chris cool, they will be waiting for kados 16:16 owen I'm working on opac-advsearch.tmpl now, paul. 16:16 paul (and yes, i got it) 16:16 paul chris : right. 16:15 paul did you saw the patch I've sent to you directly about opac-advsearch.tmpl 16:15 chris did you get an email from about them? when i send them up, i make sure the original patch sender is cc'd too 16:15 paul owen still around ? 16:15 paul mmm... I have 13 patches, but i'm sure I already sent you at least 7 16:14 chris kados has been super busy so has a few waiting for him to check too 16:14 chris yep 16:13 paul chris : so we can send you patches ? 16:11 chris hdl: i feel a lot better today than i did yesterday so thats good 16:09 masonj i suspect basmati... 16:08 masonj hmm, they are very small rice warriors 16:08 paul for sure. 16:08 paul with nasty black eyes. 16:08 paul you've been beaten by the one on the left, middle of the page. 16:07 owen There is nothing about that link that makes me want to click it! 16:07 paul http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Campylobacter_fetus_01.jpg 16:07 chris hdl: i started on antibiotics yesterday (it took that long for the tests to prove what it was) so getting better now 16:07 paul the picture is nice : 16:07 paul wow, in france : 15 000 ppl getting it, with around 15 dying from it ! 16:06 chris but i got sick saturday night, so missed Kahurangi's party on sunday :( didnt want to make the babies sick 16:06 hdl hi chris : are you better now ? 16:06 chris yes ... wasnt chicken, not sure what it was 16:06 masonj french created campylobacter :) 16:06 owen Sounds nasty 16:06 paul (usually chicken wp says) 16:05 paul so you've eaten some bad food it seems. 16:05 chris heh 16:05 paul wikipedia french known campylobacter ! 16:04 paul masonj: hdl just sent some fixes to handle () support in NZ 16:04 chris hi paul, sorry i havent been around much i have campylobacter which im just now getting over (u might have to wikipedia it ;)) 16:04 masonj paul, sweet nozebra! 16:03 masonj hiya paul 16:03 paul (hi masonj as well) 16:03 paul hi chris. 16:03 masonj its the weekend, and i had a sleep before :) 16:02 chris good grief why are you awake mason .... i have an excuse but good lord man its 5am on saturday morning :) 16:01 masonj locate yaz 15:53 aklibrarian Good morning. I need some help in updating Yaz. I think I downloaded it earlier today, but now I can't find it. 15:46 gmcharlt thanks 15:46 fbcit I'll get it to you this afternoon 15:46 gmcharlt yay! 15:46 fbcit that patch is there.. 15:46 fbcit gmcharlt: I have my clone on a usb key... :-) (git on a stick so to speak..) 15:26 gmcharlt good luck 15:26 fbcit brb 15:26 fbcit that's the only one I will really miss 15:26 fbcit the file system was in readonly mode before I rebooted, so maybe its there somewhere... 15:25 fbcit gmcharlt: let me run spinrite on the array and see if I can recover some data 15:23 gmcharlt ouch 15:22 fbcit gmcharlt: hopefully only for the day... but my patches went with it... scsi drive failure 15:21 gmcharlt fbcit: for the winter? :) 15:12 owen Hi everyone 15:08 paul hello fbcit 15:06 fbcit g'morning koha 13:12 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 13:12 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: phasefx_ n=phasefx@68-190-35-14.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com 13:12 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: rangi n=chris@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 12:46 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: rangi n=chris@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 12:45 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: phasefx_ n=phasefx@68-190-35-14.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com 12:45 lloyd_ Russel 12:45 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz