Time Nick Message 10:01 rach have a good day :-) 10:00 paul sweet night 10:00 rach ah but finally si has managed to get ben to sleep so now I can head off 10:00 rach it just changed last weekend 09:59 rach which makes the night seem v short 09:59 rach somehow we have managed to get going to bed at old time combined with getting up at new time :-( 09:58 paul rach : our daylight change in in 3 weeks... 09:58 rach ah finally ben is asleep 09:57 rach hi ya 09:56 masonj heya rach :) 09:56 paul hello rach & masonj 09:56 rach v nce paul 09:56 masonj yes, the new koha looks stunning 09:54 paul bye & good night 09:54 paul bye & good day 09:54 chris ok, i think bedtime for me, have a good day paul 09:50 chris so must be super fast there 09:49 chris its very fast, all the way to new zealand 09:47 chris tell bruno and arnaud congratulations on a great site when you see them 09:47 paul (not from me at all) 09:46 chris thats very cool paul 09:46 chris 6 books about maori :) 09:46 chris nice and fast 09:45 chris ohhh cool 09:45 paul same in french as in english... 09:44 paul (click on "catalogue & ressources") 09:44 paul ? 09:44 paul chris, did you see : http://www.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/ 09:44 chris and new caledonia 09:43 chris fiji 09:43 chris samoa 09:43 chris soon the whole pacific, so far its the cook islands 09:43 paul with most the small ones. Could be the 1st "Koha country" ;-) 09:43 chris very cool 09:43 paul the main NC library (bernheim) moves to Koha 09:43 chris ahh new caledonia is close 09:42 chris best pain au chocolat in wellington 09:42 chris http://www.wellingtonnz.com/RestaurantsAndShopping/Restaurants/Bordeaux+Bakery/Bordeaux+Bakery.htm 09:42 chris means there is always someone working :) 09:42 chris :) 09:40 paul the france => NZ => US workflow is not timezone optimized... 09:36 chris so when kados wakes up ;) 09:36 chris cool nice patches, ive pushed them up to the RM repo 09:34 chris cool ill go look 09:33 chris pain au chocolat in the morning, creme brulee at night 09:33 paul chris : 3 patches in your mailbox. 09:32 chris lucky i was only there for 2 weeks :) 09:32 paul chris : not that good for your health to eat creme brulee every 2nd day ;-) 09:14 chris i think i had creme brulee every second day :) 09:14 chris and creme brulee 09:12 chris ill have to visit again paul, and we can go out for frog legs :) 09:09 masonj i havent tried either 09:08 paul (less keen of escargots) 09:08 paul frog legs are something very sweet. 09:08 paul hello folks ! 09:06 masonj still reading!.... 09:06 chris i had escargot though 09:05 masonj ohh man , thats cute 09:04 chris thats classic 09:04 chris ASSOCIATION OF FOND OF DELICACIES OF FROG THIGHS 09:04 chris google translates it as 09:03 chris did you read pauls latest email mason? 09:03 masonj :) 09:02 chris lol 04:47 Irma Hi all...I am looking for Russel. Is he around? 19:52 kados ok, lets do it 19:52 owen I'd happily wipe the system if we could get Zebra working in the process 19:52 kados owen: how much data have you put into your system? 19:52 kados it's a db-level prob 19:51 kados owen: that's the error the ryan fixed a couple days ago 19:51 owen Whee. 19:51 kados owen: you need to reinstall 19:36 owen [Mon Oct 01 14:27:26 2007] [error] [client 66.213.78.34] [Mon Oct 1 14:27:26 2007] additem.pl: COUNT8 at value_builder/barcode.pl line 83., referer: http://staff.oleonard/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=0&z3950=1&breedingid=34 19:36 owen [Mon Oct 01 14:27:25 2007] [error] [client 66.213.78.34] [Mon Oct 1 14:27:25 2007] addbiblio.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'editionresponsibility' in 'field list' at /home/oleonard/koha/production/intranet/modules/C4/Biblio.pm line 3495., referer: http://staff.oleonard/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=0&z3950=1&breedingid=34 19:34 kados owen: the log in your home dir is the right one 19:28 owen I can't see anything in the logs, but I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place. I'd have to double-check with kados, since it's his testing server 19:25 owen I'll try adding again and see if I can see an error 19:25 hdl Don't you have any mysql error ? 19:25 hdl owen : did you have acces to logs ? 19:25 hdl We could say that Koha COULD be ready for a kind of FRBRization... (If we managed multiple biblioitems for one biblio, which we donot do anymore.) 19:24 owen I wonder if it's a frameworks problem? When I try to change the framework in addbiblio.pl, several come up blank 19:23 hdl (itemtype is in biblioitems) 19:23 hdl biblioitems = editor, editionstatement asoasf 19:23 hdl In fact, you have biblio = Title author and primary information 19:22 owen That's what I thought. No entry in biblioitems was created. 19:22 hdl It is biblioitems which contains marcrecord. 19:22 hdl owen : yes, a line in biblioitems should be created even if no item is created. 19:20 owen The way I discovered the problem was that after saving the biblio I tried to enter an item and that failed. When I went back to check for the biblio details on catalogue/detail.pl, nothing showed up 19:19 owen An entry was created in the biblio table, but not in biblioitems. Should a line be created in biblioitems even if there are no items yet? 19:18 hdl I had the same problem with my installation. But it was a problem of field missing in biblioitems 19:18 hdl owen : did you have an error ? 18:38 owen Oh, I see the sysprefs now 18:37 owen No Amazon features in 3.0? 18:25 owen I just tried adding a biblio and it didn't work. It looked like it was working...it forwarded on to additem 18:24 kados if it doesn't, let me know 18:24 kados it _should_ work with hyphens 18:24 owen kados: did you test addbiblio over the weekend? 18:18 owen Will/Should a z39.50 search from addbiblio work if the ISBN is hyphenated? 15:47 kados IMO, stopwords should be configured at the index level 15:34 paul or, if there is no answer, re-query with empty words included 15:33 paul maybe we should remove stopwords only for word search, not for exact search. Could that be correct ? 15:32 kados hehe 15:31 owen Opera -> Oprah 15:26 kados :-) 15:26 kados Opera has a publication called "O" 15:19 thd paul: Andy Warhol has a novel entitled "A". Stephen King wrote a novel entitled "It". 15:17 thd paul: what happens to a title query when the title contains only stopwords? 15:14 thd hdl: In MARC 21 $5 contains the institution code in case the particular field is only meant to apply to a particular institution. I have never noticed a real MARC 21 record using $5. 15:11 thd hdl: For linking fields 7XX, $w functions like UNIMARC $3 and contains the control number of the linked record 15:09 thd hdl: there are up to 4 optional positions for 4XX-5XX $w 15:08 paul kados : I hope no, but haven't tested, that's true ;-) 15:08 thd hdl: 4XX - 5XX $w is perhaps variable length but if position 0, the first position, is filled then it may include the relationship of the tracing or reference to the main heading of the authority 15:08 paul Search now removes stopwords before sending the query to zebra 15:08 kados will it die if you have no stopwords defined? 15:08 kados hmmm 15:08 paul kados : yes. and not just for nozebra. 15:07 kados pau or just for NoZebra? 15:07 kados paul: did you revive stopwords? 15:07 hdl But you have then 2 thesaurii (1 for each language) and you link different authorities. 15:06 hdl tumer did some work about that. 15:05 hdl thd is there many positions in $w ? 15:04 thd hdl: In MARC 21 that would be the first position of 450 or 550 $w 15:03 kados afaik, that's a manual process right now 15:03 kados one in turkish, one in english 15:03 kados I'd like to see an easy way to link peer authority records for doing, e.g., multi-language authorities 14:56 hdl For UNIMARC $5 contains g for generic, h for specific, nothing for peer 14:55 hdl thd... Do you confirm that $5 USMARC-A contains relation code ? 14:54 hdl (to be an authorised_value list) 14:54 hdl a 550 field would contain Broader term, Specific term or see also depending on $5 value 14:54 kados as peers or in a hierarchy? 14:53 hdl yes. 14:53 kados hdl: so the ... would allow you to link two authorities? 14:52 hdl kados ? 14:48 hdl kados: marceditor for authorities 14:47 kados hdl: I'm still unclear whether you're adding that to the biblio or authorities editor 14:46 thd kados: if the [...] link is doing something useful for your users now, it should be more noticeable than 3 dots are. 14:34 kados in the marc editor? 14:33 hdl I have to add [...] after a subfield if subfield is linked to an authtypecode and open an auth_finder.pl window 14:32 kados hdl: authorities framework input based on biblios framework? 14:32 kados hdl: could you explain that? 13:11 hdl Could be soon live when authorities framework input will be based on biblios framework. 13:07 paul kados : http://koha.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 13:06 hdl Not live. 13:05 hdl (could be) 13:05 hdl (frameworkcode is used as authtypecode for authorities. I could not find a good name : relatedauthorities.) 13:05 kados do you have an example? 13:05 kados I'd like to see 'a)' in action 13:04 hdl a) it enables ppl to link an authority with an other one, just like biblios. 13:04 hdl But still, some features are really useful. 13:04 hdl Merge which is not good now. 13:03 hdl It was to prepare a merge between biblios and authorities management. 13:03 hdl kados : About change in authorities frameworks, I did it last year. 12:56 paul ! right, same for me ! 12:56 kados Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMHTMLFormElement.submit]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: http://www.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/fileadmin/template/rechercher.php :: onload :: line 1" data: no] 12:56 kados popup 12:56 kados firefox rejects the popul 12:56 kados hehe, it's broken for me 12:56 paul it's done with typo3 12:55 paul click on "catalogue & ressources" to reach Koha (or search in "Rechercher sur", radio "le catalogue" 12:55 kados wow, funny 12:55 paul http://www.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/ 12:55 paul . 12:55 paul . 12:55 paul . 12:55 paul you won't believe it, but it's live since this morning. 12:54 paul it's finally here ! 12:54 paul ah, kados, a BIG NEWS ! 12:54 paul nobody's perfect, but i'll try ! 12:53 kados as long as it doesn't break the installer :-) 12:53 kados sure 12:53 paul are you OK to add a new step in the installer (to let the user choose between zebra & nozebra ?) 12:52 paul (+ maybe it could solve the commit problem i have with those accented chars) 12:52 paul I've seen the problem. And I think I should at least use some flags to have a more easily human readable dump, you're right. 12:50 kados I'd highly suggest you create and maintain a human-readable sysprefs.sql file 12:50 kados and it's also not easy to see what is different between english and french sysprefs 12:50 kados this means that there's no way to easily track changes to sysprefs 12:50 kados in the data/fr dir 12:50 kados paul: also, you use a mysqldump to generate your sysprefs 12:49 paul the hierarchy feature works with the "browser" table, it's right 12:49 paul ah, ok, I misunderstood. 12:49 kados I was just guessing why 12:48 kados all I know is it don't work :-) 12:48 kados from my brief look at the code, the hierarchy feature relies on the browser table too 12:48 kados the hierarchy feature fails for another reason? 12:47 paul but tags (comment #1 of 1448) 12:47 paul browser is missing, you're right. 12:46 paul s/tag/browser/ sorry. 12:46 kados when I run the script 12:46 kados I'm just reporting what I find 12:46 paul but I see it in git 12:46 paul about khastructure.sql, you say in 1448 that browser table is not here. 12:46 paul a question from me now : 12:46 kados k 12:46 paul yes! 12:45 paul (I was in holidays, he told me that on phone, I may be wrong) 12:45 kados so there are new mappings to create? 12:45 paul hdl wrote that in july, and, iirc, spoke of this with you. 12:45 paul to be able to show them easily. Those fields are often requested by libraries, for example in the result list. 12:44 paul to store serial collections informations 12:44 kados what are they used for? 12:44 kados also, could you explain the additional columns in biblioitems? 12:43 kados because they broke bulkmarcimport 12:43 kados and I changed them to default NULL 12:43 kados some column defs were listed as NOT NULL 12:43 kados and please note the kohastructure.sql changes I made over the weekend 12:43 kados also other missing tables 12:42 paul kados : OK to add nozebra table to kohastructure.sql if you think it's useful. 12:41 paul (back) 12:32 kados this week should be a busy one on #koha, koha-devel and git 12:31 kados yea, we did some testing this weekend 12:31 kados :-) 12:31 owen Busy weekend, hunh? 8:30 AM Monday and I"m already behind! 12:31 kados hiya owen 12:31 owen Hi guys 12:31 paul (on phone) 12:31 kados paul: and create/populate it 'on the fly' 12:30 kados paul: also, I don't think it's a good idea to omit the nozebra table 12:29 kados it's a clear indication to us that 3.0 w/kohastructure.sql is != to what you use with updatedatabase 12:28 kados also 12:28 kados since there was another bulkmarcimport error 12:28 paul you're completly right 12:28 kados paul: re: 1446 ... very strange you don't have this prob with unimarc, esp since we found the prob and it's in the code! 12:26 paul & owen 12:26 kados hi paul 12:26 paul hello kados 12:26 kados morning owen