Time Nick Message 12:06 kados hey hdl 12:07 kados hdl: I've received paul's email, unfortunately, I've got a day-long meeting today 12:07 kados I will think about a response and hope to reply tongiht 12:07 kados tonight I mean :-) 12:08 hdl So tomorrow morning, we will receive your answer. 12:08 kados one point, the installer is not finished 12:08 kados as soon as it is I would be satisfied doing a 'developers' release 12:08 kados even with the templates a bit in flux 12:09 hdl what do you mean by installer not finished ? Is there any hard problem to solve ? 12:10 kados really, I think adding the toolbars and views (just a bunch of <li>s) would solve 90% of template changes 12:10 kados hdl: have you tried to install Koha 3.0 using the installer? 12:10 hdl In France, we have problems with CGI::Session and accent management. 12:10 hdl Not yet 12:10 kados accent? 12:10 hdl éèà 12:11 kados related to CGI::Session? 12:11 kados perhaps you're not storing as utf8? 12:11 hdl yes. It seems that table is truncated. 12:11 hdl yes. It seems that table data is truncated. 12:11 hdl No, we are. 12:11 kados so it's a bug of CGI::Session? 12:12 hdl I think so. But cannot tell precisely. 12:13 kados it affects people's names with accents? 12:14 kados hdl: so my initial answer is that when the installer is finished and working I will release a developers version 12:14 kados but it's impossible to release if you can't install Koha! 12:14 kados IMO we also need to reach a concensus in the community about how to update the database 12:15 hdl yes it affects people or data with accents. 12:16 hdl For instance : Bib. des Sociétés chrétiennes. 12:16 hdl And we cannot release if session problem is not definitely understood and fixed. 12:17 kados I agree 12:17 kados so we have : 12:17 kados 1. fix installer 12:17 kados 2. decide on how to update the database 12:17 kados 3. fix encoding probs with sessions 12:17 hdl But anyway, basically we think that time has come NOT to fuzzy templates or design any longer. 12:17 kados I don't see how improving the templates affects anything 12:18 kados issues 1-3 need to be solved 12:19 kados there was a good post from a koha community member 12:19 kados I'll try to find it 12:22 kados slef has responded to paul's questions re: installer 12:28 kados morning owen 12:28 owen Hi kados 12:28 kados owen: looking at your example 12:28 kados I like it! 14:32 hdl owen ? 14:32 dewey i think owen is hardly ever in direct contact with kados. We communicate here. 14:32 owen Hi hdl 14:32 paul hi owen 14:32 hdl hi how are you ? 14:32 owen I am well, thank you 14:32 hdl I was wondering if you use subscription-add.pl 14:33 hdl with New Zealand stuff for numbering pattern. 14:33 owen I have tested it 14:34 hdl Did you like it ? 14:34 owen It seemed to work well. Since I've never used it in actual practice I'm not a good judge 15:26 paul owen : about the reserves. 15:27 paul use case = I reserve a book that is available at my branch and I "reserve this item" 15:27 paul after placing the reserve, what should appear in request.pl ? 15:27 paul actually it's "document waiting at ..." 15:28 paul which is partially correct & partially uncorrect 15:28 paul the librarians have not picked it up in the shelves, but it's available if the patron goes to the library 15:28 paul (i've added a systempref that seems to work well, except for this. 15:28 paul if you want to test : 15:28 paul http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 15:29 paul (abel / abel) 15:29 owen More accurate would be "Waiting to be pulled" or "Waiting to be retrieved" 15:29 paul search "chaos" in catalogue & request one of the book at the end of the list 15:29 paul (search for "test" patron) 15:29 paul place a request on a given item. 15:29 paul look in "transferts to do", it appear 15:30 paul (the "transfers to do" has to be renamed to "hold to pick up in shelves") 15:30 paul (because it's sometimes a transfer, sometimes a local reserve now) 15:30 paul then check in the book, and that's it 16:32 paul owen : patch sent to chris, you can check http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 16:33 paul (systempreferences >> tab circulation >> set ReservesNeedReturns to 1 and check behaviour) 16:48 paul ttl... 20:27 chris cool 5 new ones 22:33 masonj morning koha 22:35 rach morning 22:35 masonj heya rach 22:35 rach how are you this fine morning mason? 22:36 masonj caffeinated ;) 22:36 masonj pretty good really 22:36 rach excellent 22:37 masonj saw a great thing on heli-skiing on tv a cupla days ago in sth island 22:37 masonj thought of u :) 22:37 rach we tried to get a day heli in but the weather didn't play ball :-( 05:41 hdl owen: chris ? 05:41 dewey chris is probably now too 05:42 hdl chris if you are awaken, have you had time to peer into my CGI::Session problem. 05:42 hdl ? 05:43 hdl I realized that there were 3 different serialize engines in CGI::Session Storage, Default (Data::Dumper) and FreezeThaw. 05:43 hdl I wonder if ot could come from that. 05:53 rach is 5.55pm here so I suspect he might be off finding beer or dinner or both 05:53 rach (friday night) 05:56 chris that sounds quite plausible HDL 05:56 chris i had a look but i couldnt figure out what was different but htat might be it 05:59 chris now im going to find some food, ill will bbl