Time Nick Message 12:52 owen paul? 12:52 dewey i think paul is 4 times' DADDY 12:52 paul hi owen 12:52 owen Hi Paul, I'm just now looking over the new member entry template 12:52 paul our stupid bot is right... quite unusual... 12:53 paul yep. Note that it's probably buggy. I haven't tested it yet. 12:53 owen paul, are you familiar with it, or should I be asking hdl? 12:53 paul you should ask hdl. 12:53 paul but he's back on monday only 12:53 owen Okay. I'll either figure it out or I'll wait :) 12:54 paul owen, a quick question : there are zillions of intranetstylesheet => C4::Context ... 12:54 paul (almost one in each script) 12:54 paul they are useless, as Auth.pm loads this pref everytime. 12:54 paul + with actual templates, the intranetstylesheet is no more supported. 12:55 paul <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="themelang" -->/css/staff-global.css" /> 12:55 paul but : 12:55 paul <!-- TMPL_IF name="intranetstylesheet" --> 12:55 owen I think the intranetstylsheet => C4::Context in the script is a relic of an earlier version, before Auth.pm was modified 12:56 paul <link rel=<!-- TMPL_VAR name="intranetstylesheet" -->...> 12:56 paul <!-- TMPL_ELSE --> 12:56 paul <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="themelang" -->/css/staff-global.css" /> 12:56 paul <!-- /TMPL_IF --> 12:56 paul if there is an intranetstylesheet defined, use it instead of staff-global.css 12:56 paul do you agree ? 12:57 owen Yes: we're still trying to sort out how to handle alternate style sheets. Right now we're working just with staff-global for the sake of simplicity. Ultimately we'll have the intranetstylesheet option as well as options for setting an alternate color stylesheet like the NPL templates in rel_2_2 12:57 paul owen will probably lighten my darkness ;-) 12:58 owen intranetstylesheet allowed you to drop in a completely new stylesheet, right? A full URL to an an external stylesheet? 12:58 owen The color stylesheet pref allows you to point to a stylsheet that changes color info only. That lets the user set a color scheme while leaving the layout unchanged 12:59 paul ok, but the colorstylesheet is a css isn't it ? 12:59 owen Yes 13:16 paul owen ? a few minuts for another question ? 13:16 owen yes 13:16 paul http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl 13:17 paul (abel/abel) 13:17 paul the check in / transfer /set library /Holds to pull ... 13:17 paul is <div class="yiu-b"> 13:17 paul shouln't it have an id ? 13:18 paul <div class="yui-b" id="toolbar"> or something like that 13:18 paul ? 13:18 owen It can, if we find it's necessary for CSS and/or javascript. 13:18 owen It's just a first draft 13:18 paul OK 13:19 paul playing with something you don't know well & that is not finished is sometimes a hard job ;-) 13:19 paul (what is unfinished & what is unknown ?) 13:20 owen If you're playing with CSS and feel you need an id or class somewhere, feel free to add it. I want the markup to be as flexible as possible 13:20 paul (to change the submenu layout without changing all yui-b) 13:21 paul OK, i'll try. 13:24 paul owen : do you think it would be better to have a <div id="toolbar"> in circ-menu.inc, or update circulation.tmpl to write : <div class="yui-b toolbar" > ? 13:25 paul (or <div class="yui-b" id="toolbar">) 13:27 owen Probably better to add the extra div to circ-menu.inc, because, for instance, we sometimes have two includes in the left-hand sidebar. 13:27 owen circulation.tmpl loads memebers-menu.inc too, to display patron links if there is a patron loaded 13:29 paul OK 13:29 paul mmm... 13:29 paul so we can't use a id="toolbar", but a class="toolbar". 13:30 paul (or a id="toolbar-members" and a id="toolbar-circ". 13:30 paul but I think that would result in too many "toolbar-XXX" and be confusing. 13:30 owen Or a toolbar class plus an id for each if you want circ menu items to be different from patron menu items 13:31 paul owen: ++ 13:31 paul (although the stylesheet will be very tricky to manipulate ;-) ) 13:32 paul mmm... owen : there is are xxx-menu and some menu-xxx. Is it a bug ? 13:32 paul or a feature ? 13:32 dewey a feature is broken in the script 13:34 owen To me, it's a feature :). I changed the naming convention when I started re-writing the templates. I wanted related files to be grouped, like circ-menu.inc and circ-search.inc 13:34 owen I'm willing to be convinced that's not any more efficient, however. It's just how I did it. 13:36 paul so, at the end, all menus should be MODULE-menu.inc ? 13:37 owen That's the way I planned it. The menu-MODULE.inc files are going to go away, because those menus are going to be broken down into MODULE-menu.inc and MODULE-toolbar.inc 13:38 owen MODULE-toolbar.inc will include toolbar-like actions like Add, Edit, Delete. The toolbar inc will be embedded at the top of the main page content 13:39 owen I haven't had a chance to start on the toolbar files yet 13:42 kados hey gang 13:42 kados owen: I like the naming convention 13:48 paul hey kados. 13:48 paul (the naming convention : you're speaking of our previous discussion or something else ?) 13:49 kados your previous discussion :-) 13:49 kados MODULE-menu and MODULE-toolbar 13:49 kados it might also be 13:49 kados PAGE-toolbar 13:49 kados in some cases 13:50 owen Yes 13:51 paul page-toolbar,like in : 13:51 paul http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=Intranet 13:51 paul for Admin / acquisition /Authorities/catalogue/... /staff client/ ... others 13:51 paul ? 13:54 kados yep 13:54 paul consider it done ;-) 13:55 paul owen : will you work on the templates today ? 13:55 owen All day! 13:55 paul OK, so I do nothing ;-) 13:55 owen Let 'em come 13:55 kados owen's been a template trooper lately :-) 13:55 paul hired by LibLime ? 13:55 owen I'm not afraid of a little conflict 13:56 kados hehe 13:56 owen No, strictly in the interests of NPL 13:56 paul I have other things to do, I can wait... 13:56 kados NPL++ 13:56 owen ...although my boss wonders sometimes... ;) 13:58 paul lol 14:01 owen admin/charges.tmpl no longer used? 14:07 paul grep -R "charges.tmpl" * shows nothing, so I think you're right 14:13 slef paul: pq parles-tu de Koha 3.0 NoZebra? Existe-il déjà ? 14:13 paul slef : of cours, NoZebra exists & works quite correctly. 14:13 paul (although a little bit under-documented) 14:13 slef paul: is it a syspref or what? 14:13 paul it's a syspref, yes. 2 in fact ;-) 14:14 slef Will you patch README.txt with the details, please? 14:14 paul look at misc/migration_tools/rebuil_nozebra.pl script, that should be useful 14:16 slef paul: does that get run by the web installer? 14:16 paul not yet. 14:16 slef it will? 14:17 paul in fact, I could answer "yes" to your question... 14:17 slef ok... have you 5 mins to explain kohala AG to me? 14:17 paul because we just need to add a sql file to load during step3, that set NoZebra=1 and NoZebraIndexes=... 14:18 paul yes, of course, what is your question exactly ? 14:18 slef Can me and other UK users appoint people to represent us at the AG? 14:19 paul I don't know why you couldn't 14:19 slef How do we choose who to appoint? 14:19 paul I don't see why you couldn't 14:20 paul you can choose randomly ;-) 14:20 slef As in, do we know the votes to be held and do we know people's positions on them? 14:20 paul (except that, iirc, there is a limit to how many ppl someone can represent) 14:20 slef s/As in/C'est à dire/ 14:20 paul We will choose President, Trésorier and Secrétaire 14:21 paul the only 3 mandatory positions. 14:21 paul we may have a vice-president as well, but not mandatory. 14:21 slef Can we tell representatives how to vote? (That is what happens in proxy votes in England, IME.) 14:21 paul atm, the 4 founders have one position each. 14:21 paul of course you can. but to vote you must be a member of the association. 14:22 paul and to be a member of the association, you must have paid your yearly ticket. 14:22 slef ok, how do people join? 14:22 slef (I don't think koha.lists.katipo... has ever been told) 14:22 paul p nalon is preparing a paper for ppl wanting to join 14:22 paul (in fact, we haven't imagined we could have non french members ;-) ) 14:23 slef erm, there are a lot of non-french koha users... 14:23 slef not sure whether you remember that ;-) 14:23 paul yep, but it's a french association. 14:24 paul at dev week, last year, we spoke of this question : it's too hard to have a world wide association/NPO 14:24 slef so? Seems little point having an association in each country, at least in Euro-zone 14:24 paul so, we begin with "local" ones. 14:24 paul "little point" ? 14:24 slef there is a cost and not much benefit 14:25 slef I don't remember the dev week discussion (what a surprise). Is there a record? 14:26 slef Actually, is dev week the bit in the south of FR I wasn't at? 14:37 paul slef : right. 14:38 slef cool - so who's our worldwide NPO expert? 14:38 paul owen : i've played with global-staff.css, feel free to look at it at http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 14:39 owen Looking good, paul 14:39 paul owen : already quite nice, without any template change. Just one thing that seems not correct : the white area that encloses the left menu 14:39 owen That's definitely more what I have in mind for the final version, but I'm leaving that until I'm further along. 14:39 paul I would like to have it just for the "work area", but it's not possible atm, because there is no "workingarea" unless i've missed something 14:40 paul no prob 14:40 paul i'm already happy with that. 14:40 owen Do you mean like what "mainbloc" was before? 14:41 paul yep 14:49 owen paul: we may need to add something, an extra div 14:49 paul That's what I think too 14:59 kados http://www.ltls.org/ilssymposium2007/agendapage.html 14:59 kados hopefully they'll have wireless so I can be on chat at the same time :-) 15:00 owen I hope you're there already, because I don't think you can make it from Athens in 30 min. 15:00 kados hehe 15:00 kados yea, I'm in champaign already 15:00 kados drove up last night 15:01 kados ok, I'm signing off, bbiab 15:03 paul owen : where is Champaign located ? 15:04 owen Illinois 15:04 paul thanks, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois) 15:07 paul owen : "I drove up last night" means he reached champaign by car ? seems a medium trip (300miles ?) 15:08 owen Yes. Google says 6 hours 15:16 owen admin/categoryitem.pl & admin/categoryitem.pl both not used anymore? Replaced by categorie.tmpl/pl ? 15:18 paul iirc, yes. 15:18 paul we spoke of that recently on koha-devel 15:19 paul (I started the thread : database structure : some cleaning) 15:19 paul aug, 8 15:20 owen Ah, database structure. I didn't pay very close attention to that :) 19:37 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: rangi n=nnchris@203.118.134.114 22:17 [K] * ru55el@FreeNode clocks on for Koha Project Day - it has been a while 22:17 [K] <ru55el@FreeNode> Chris and I are working on a user contributed help feature 07:45 btoumi hi all 07:45 btoumi chris are u around? 07:46 btoumi kados are u around?