Time Nick Message 02:36 masonj nice 17:16 [K] *** #koha@FreeNode names: [K] rangi ru55el 17:16 slef /names 17:16 slef kados++ for the dual-db answer, it seems 17:08 slef I think I just went in a bit hard on Rick. 17:08 slef erm, oops 16:29 CGI860 Ah well. Thanks anyway for trying. 16:28 owen Nothing I know of, but my library doesn't manage electronic resources in that way so I'm out of the loop 16:28 CGI860 Any other pointers of possible products that you know of that I might check out? 16:28 owen Catch chris or rach when New Zealand wakes up and ask one of them 16:28 CGI860 Hmmm... oh well. 16:27 owen I don't see it on their site, so I could be making that up: http://katipo.co.nz/solutions/ 16:27 CGI860 What is that? 16:27 CGI860 Oh? 16:27 CGI860 Oh. Well that pretty much wraps up that discussion. 16:27 owen ...Although I think Katipo has a product for that? I'm not sure if it's been released. 16:26 CGI860 But I can ignore stuff I dont need, as long as it does do the stuff I do need. :-) 16:26 owen Yeah... And Koha right now doesn't have a system for storing electronic resources. 16:26 CGI860 Yeah, I am sure it does. 16:26 CGI860 I don't need "checkout/checkin" or physical inventory. 16:26 owen One question to ask is whether Koha comes with more stuff than you really need--acquisitons, reports, patron management, etc. 16:25 CGI860 I need storage of the files, and the ability to download them from the interface. 16:25 owen Wow, you really could use a system for help! 16:25 CGI860 10000+ 16:12 owen CGI860: How big is your collection? 15:55 CGI860 Hi there, I am looking for web-based OSS that can help me organize my eBook collection. I am hoping to be able to browse by subject or author and search by title, etc. Does Koha fit that bill? 15:27 owen Thanks paul 15:22 paul ok, sent 15:21 paul oleonard at myacpl.org ? 15:21 owen oleonard@myacpl.org 15:21 paul owen, what is your preferred mail ? 15:21 kados or you can send it to owen actually 15:20 kados paul: send it directly to me 15:20 paul (he should be sleeping now, was looking at the rugby match with Laurel, so should be consolating her) 15:19 paul can kados accept patch immediatly or do we need to wait for chris ? 15:19 paul OK, done 15:18 paul owen send by mail or through git ? 15:16 owen Paul, do you want to send me what you have and I'll finish the process of setting up the tabs? 15:13 owen http://stilbuero.de/jquery/tabs/ 15:11 owen paul: I'm using a jquery plugin to manage tabs (including the resident search form) 15:11 owen slef: progressive enhancement 15:10 slef and +1 to simplifying forms and stripping out js ;-) 15:10 paul owen : custom means specific CSS, or there is already something somewhere ? 15:10 slef kados: thanks. 15:10 kados (they don't want it split into 3 pages) 15:10 owen That could be handled with custom CSS+custom js 15:09 kados (even if it's just one page really) 15:09 kados I know several libraries in the US don't like to have to fill out more than one page 15:09 paul ??? 15:09 kados paul: could we make the 'three tabs' feature an option? 15:08 paul and how do I do exactly ? 15:08 paul Can I use the main form we spoke with owen previously for this ? 15:08 paul (like the main form) 15:08 paul Personal Information / Contacts / Library management are javascript, that is supposed to show & hide part of the template 15:07 paul BUT : 15:07 paul http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/members/memberentry.pl?op=add&category_type=A 15:07 paul Here is the result : 15:07 paul I could deal with hdl commit & new structure 15:07 paul kados / owen, about memberentry (rewritted) 14:52 kados I didn't have time to convert his html email into text and reformat :-) 14:52 kados sorry in advance for top posting 14:51 kados sent 14:43 kados slef: the Jon Bek one? 14:38 slef hi paul 14:38 slef So who wants to answer that dual-database question from koha.lists.katipo? 14:38 paul hello slef 14:36 paul (not sure it's not a frenchism...) 14:35 paul so is it a question of a few days or a few weeks ? 14:35 paul kados : about the release = OK, but the timeline for the template stuff is important for us, as the memberentry will be after. 14:31 paul answered 14:16 kados yes 14:15 paul kados : you speak of the aug,31 mail, isn't it ? 14:12 paul nope I go now to read them 14:11 kados paul: did you see MJ's comments on koha-dev about updating? 14:08 kados (and they are nearly done I think, maybe 2-3 modules left?) 14:07 kados (once we get the global elements done) 14:07 kados esp since the template modifs are fairly incremental 14:07 kados I think those items will take longer than the template modifs 14:05 paul kados & owen : do you have a timeline to finish the template stuff ? 14:04 kados go tonga 14:04 kados wow 14:04 paul (15-25 vs tonga) 14:04 kados hehe 14:04 paul http://coupe-du-monde-de-rugby-2007.sport24.com/livescore-match-en-direct-etats-unis-tonga-live.html 14:03 kados hehe 14:03 paul (but that was easy, I agree. Easier than solving failed automatic merges ;-) ) 14:02 paul probably, but if we try to cherry-pick, it fails miserabily. iirc I had to do port manually 5 of the 13 commits 14:02 kados sure 14:02 kados header, and footer 14:02 paul I think we will wait until you've stabilised the stuff. 14:02 kados it should be simple to convert, only about 15 lines or so 14:01 paul so we can't commit it for instance. 14:01 paul yes, he did a lot of progress on member entry, but on previous templates. 14:01 kados that's great, paul 14:01 paul (more than 1 million documents...) 14:01 paul (Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève) 14:01 kados cool 14:00 paul today & friday, hdl is demo-ing Koha to a MAJOR library : BSG 14:00 kados has hdl made progress on member entry? 14:00 kados paul++ 14:00 kados w00t 14:00 kados it's one part of usability 13:58 paul it's like usability ? 13:58 kados to make it easier for users to perform a given function 13:58 kados we want to support those habits in the design 13:58 kados users form habits 13:57 paul habitability ? (I understand the word, it's the same in gfrench, but not what you mean) 13:57 kados even if the search is fr a different thing 13:57 kados we're supporing 'habitability' for users that will always go to the same place to do a search 13:56 kados the options will change depending on the module you're in 13:56 owen the idea is that the primary search action changes based on the primary purpose of the module 13:56 kados the global search is contextual 13:56 paul is it unfinished, or there's something i'm missing ? 13:56 kados hi paul 13:56 paul and Search Patrons / Check out and Search the catalog at http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/members/members-home.pl 13:55 paul why, for example, is there Check out and Search the catalog on http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl 13:54 paul about the primary form, what will it contain ? 13:54 paul sounds OK. 13:54 owen Yes, that's the plan 13:54 paul OK, so there should be no "old" menu on the left once done, right ? 13:53 owen Almost none of the left-hand menus are correct at the moment 13:53 owen We haven't finished sorting that out 13:53 paul on http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/acqui-home.pl there is a small one PLUS the previous complete one. 13:52 paul on circ/circulation.pl, there is a small one 13:52 paul on catalogue/search.pl, there is none 13:52 paul mmm... let's speak of things one after each other... so, the left menu... 13:51 paul so there should usually be one ? 13:51 owen The primary form action will change based on the context of the page 13:51 paul sometimes the form contains other values (http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl) 13:50 owen I'm in the process of adding the form to almost all pages 13:50 paul sometimes there is no form (http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl) 13:50 owen Our new design has the left-hand menu space changing based on the context of the page 13:50 paul on members-home.pl, there is a koha logo, with a form (Search patrons / Check out) 13:49 paul what is correct ? 13:49 paul the left menu sometimes appear (like in mainpage.pl), sometimes not (like in http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/members/members-home.pl) 13:49 paul I have some questions about what is done and what is not done. 13:49 paul is the uptodate git repo afaik 13:49 paul http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl (login abel / abel) 13:48 paul g'morning owen 13:41 owen Sure 13:40 paul (owen : if you're around, you can answer my questions as well I suppose) 13:37 paul do you have a minut to speak of template modifs ? 13:36 paul kados : 'morning to you. 13:34 kados slef++ for all the responses on the lists 13:26 owen Hi kados 13:26 kados morning pecisk, owen, Brook 12:05 Brooke howdy