Time Nick Message 12:29 hdl hi there 12:56 kados hi hdl 12:56 kados hdl: owen has been good about filing bugs for 3.0 :-) 12:57 kados hdl: seen them? 12:57 dewey I haven't seen 'them', kados 12:57 hdl I did 12:58 hdl Are there "only 15" ? 12:58 hdl on rel_3_0 ? 13:10 kados I searched HEAD and rel_3_0 and I get 87 13:11 kados some are enhancements though 13:11 kados our bugzilla needs to be updated :/ 13:43 kados foxnorth: you around? 13:59 foxnorth hey kados-- you still around? 14:02 kados foxnorth: yep 14:02 kados foxnorth: should be around all day 14:02 foxnorth cool 14:03 foxnorth just checking your debugging dump from saving/resaving 14:04 kados yea, it's a pretty strange bug 14:04 kados almost seems random 14:05 foxnorth yeah the random part is what scares me :) 14:05 kados heh 14:05 kados have you been able to reproduce it at all? 14:06 foxnorth i tried saving/resaving yesterday when trying to reproduce it. Let me try again and see what happens... 14:07 foxnorth given that it's the leader and 008 which were preserved in that last mangled record, the variable fields editor data must not have been picked up by the save function 14:07 kados ahh, maybe that's the key 14:07 foxnorth i.e. there was a problem accessing the yui editor's contents 14:07 kados yea, just happened again for me 14:08 foxnorth hhmm 14:08 kados slightly different this time though 14:08 kados it displayed properly in the Drafts folder, but clicking on it resulted in a one line record: 14:08 kados 008 981203s2000 cau e b 001 0 eng d 14:08 foxnorth it displayed properly in the drafts folder?? 14:08 foxnorth hhm 14:08 kados yea, still is actually 14:08 kados but the preview pane has: 14:08 kados 000 00793nam a2200241 4500 14:09 kados 008 981203s2000 cau e b 001 0 eng d 14:09 foxnorth hhmm 14:10 foxnorth ok my xml in plain english just displayed ok. going to try saving/resaving 14:10 foxnorth so far repeatedly hitting "save" is ok. 14:11 kados try editing something in it 14:11 kados yea, that will work 14:11 kados edit something 14:11 kados click save 14:11 kados then click on 'Drafts' to get the record list 14:11 kados then double-click on the record again 14:11 kados edit it 14:11 kados save it, repeat 14:11 kados it's leaving the editor that does it I suspect 14:11 foxnorth ok editing 14:12 foxnorth sorry, i'm going to try editing... 14:12 kados *nod* 14:13 foxnorth can't reproduce! arg 14:13 kados try again 14:13 kados :-) 14:13 kados sometimes it takes 3-4 times to happen for me 14:13 kados this is webcat-dev, right? 14:14 foxnorth yep 14:14 foxnorth just saved/resaved and edited fixed field and variable fields and no nice :( 14:14 foxnorth just out of curiosity, want to query the sqlite db manually? 14:14 foxnorth i forget where gears sticks it on mac? 14:21 foxnorth Google Gears for firefox on mac db location: Location: Users/<username>/Library/Caches/Firefox/Profiles/{profile}.default/Google Gears for Firefox 14:31 foxnorth brb 14:35 kados foxnorth: so you were able to reproduce the prob, or not? 14:36 foxnorth kados: not able to. I saved/resaved as many times as i could! 14:36 foxnorth I'm just trying to think how we could debug this thing 14:36 foxnorth i forget, do you have linux running under vmware or something? 14:37 foxnorth that you could test on to make sure it's not ff for mac? 14:38 kados weird 14:38 kados I don't at the moment 14:38 foxnorth ok 14:39 foxnorth from your debug output I can't tell *why* the yui editor contents didn't get picked back up 14:39 kados yea 14:39 foxnorth you could run it under the firebug debugger 14:39 foxnorth if you've got the time, that is 14:41 foxnorth Click firebug script, choose edit.js and break at line 18 then try saving 14:42 foxnorth actually, you could break at line 86 instead since we know the fixed fields are ok 14:42 foxnorth and check the value of var_ed 14:42 kados hang on, phone :/ 14:42 foxnorth np 18:35 kados hdl: are you still here? 18:35 kados hdl: I have a question for you regarding how to handle English UNIMARC frameworks in the installer 18:35 kados fr 3.0 20:03 chris morning 20:06 kados hey chris 20:07 hdl hi kados 20:07 hdl fire. 20:08 hdl kados ? 20:08 dewey kados is champion alligator-wrestler in 7 counties 20:08 chris hehe 20:08 hdl hi chris 20:09 hdl has kados solved his question ? 20:09 chris i dont know, im back in nz, i cant look over his shoulder anymore :) 20:10 hdl OK. 20:10 hdl have a nice meeting then 20:10 chris i think he probably got distracted by a phonecall 20:10 chris *nod* 20:11 hdl kados : send me your question via email. 20:11 hdl I shall answer tomorrow. 20:15 chris push coming your way kados 20:17 kados cool 20:29 hdl kados : i am about for a little while 20:34 kados hi hdl 20:34 kados I just was wondering how you envision the installer handling a unimarc in english? 20:34 kados at what step should it be picked? 20:35 kados (since right now, it's unimarc vs marc21) 20:35 hdl Yes I was anxious you ask that. 20:36 hdl Indeed. no clear solution at the moment. 20:37 hdl Maybe have USMARC and UNIMARC in required directory. 20:38 hdl Or ask for the user to choose one among many. 20:38 hdl I thought taht we could have languages in our framework structure anyway 20:39 hdl may old xml temptation comes back. 20:39 kados right 20:39 kados hmmm 20:40 hdl maybe we could/should add a language field to marc_subfield_structure and have all the translations in sql file. 20:40 hdl marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure. 20:41 kados what about a separate table for translations of the name? 20:41 kados since it's a one to many relationship 20:41 kados one entry -> many translations 20:42 hdl well... from a strictly dbdesign point of view I agree. 20:42 hdl From a koha3.0 out soon I utterly disagree. 20:42 hdl (And I hope you understand) 20:42 kados yep 20:43 kados and I agree 20:43 kados not for 3.0, maybe for 3.2 20:43 hdl definitely 20:44 hdl For now, maybe we could add a directory that would need the user to choose MARC Flavor... 20:44 hdl That would require a simple change in installer. 20:44 kados good idea 20:45 kados it comes up because I have a unimarc english 20:46 hdl I understand. And I think we need multilanguage *marc structures in the future. 20:47 hdl But atm, the sole option is, imho, what I suggested you : adding a new marcflavour directory before language selection. 20:47 hdl Could you ask someone to do that ? 20:48 kados I don't have anyone who can 20:49 kados maybe for now it's just note that you ahve to pick one or the other 20:50 hdl OK I shall. 20:51 hdl maybe note in enhancements on buzilla ? 20:51 hdl and assign to me so that i donot forget. 20:52 hdl nite #koha 22:46 thd kados: are you there? 22:52 thd chris: I have a merge conflict in git. Would you help me sort it? 22:58 chris can do 22:58 chris what file is it in? 23:03 thd chis: CONFLICT (rename/modify): Merge conflict in misc/marc_datas/marc21_en/structure_def.sql 23:03 thd Failed to merge in the changes. 23:03 thd chris: that file should not even be in HEAD 23:03 thd as far as I know 23:03 chris there is no HEAD anymore :) thats a cvs'ism 23:04 thd what is the non-CVSism for HEAD? 23:04 chris master 23:05 chris and you got this by doing a git fetch 23:05 thd chris: that file should not even be in master. As far as I know it is a deprecated filename 23:05 chris git rebase origin 23:05 chris ? 23:05 thd yes, I hope that I did not put it there 23:07 chris yep that file exists for me still 23:07 chris ah ha 23:07 chris but when i do a 23:07 chris git checkout -f master 23:08 chris its gone 23:08 thd I definitely did not put it there but it has contents which should not be there 23:08 chris as it should 23:08 thd chris so what should I do to make it disappear 23:08 chris do you have any uncommitted changes? 23:08 chris if not 23:08 chris try 23:09 chris git checkout -f master 23:09 thd chris: I have no locally uncommitted changes 23:10 chris give the checkout -f a whirl then 23:11 thd chris: I do have 2 patches in the directory representing changes which I committed. I sent those patches to you. What should I do with those patches in the directory? 23:11 chris you can safely ignore them 23:11 chris or type git clean 23:11 chris and that will get rid of them 23:12 thd chris: so I will run git clean and then git checkout -f master 23:12 chris yep, its worth a try :) 23:16 thd chris: should git fetch and git rebase origin work now? 23:16 chris im hoping so 23:25 thd chris: everything seems good now. I had to remove .dotest recursively because git complained that it already existed 23:25 chris ah yep 23:25 chris cool it sorted 23:26 thd chris: I have one other question 23:26 chris yep? 23:27 thd chris: when I first tried setting up gitweb using a symlink as per the instructions in the documentation did not work 23:27 chris right, probably needed to let apache know its ok to follow symlinks 23:28 thd chris: gitweb gave a 403 forbidden error no matter what the user and permissions were and apache was well informed with a directive for the directory 23:29 thd chris: I presume that you are not using a symlink for git.koha.org 23:35 chris yep we are 23:36 thd chris: what version of Apache are you using? 23:36 chris lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2007-08-03 15:55 Koha -> /pub/scm/koha-web.git/.git 23:37 chris 2 23:38 thd chris are you using the MPM-prefork version which can manage non-threaded libraries? 23:41 chris pass 23:41 thd :) 23:41 chris probably just worker 23:41 chris thats what i usually install 23:44 thd chris: is there anything wrong with my directive ... 23:44 thd <Directory "/var/cache/git/"> 23:44 thd AllowOverride None 23:45 thd Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +FollowSymLinks 23:45 thd Order allow,deny 23:45 thd Allow from all 23:45 thd </Directory> 23:45 chris shouldnt be, i dont even have that 23:46 chris i just have gitweb.cgi in /usr/lib/cgi-bin 23:46 chris and 23:46 chris ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ 23:48 thd chris: you allow FollowSymLinks globally? 23:48 chris i misled you 23:48 chris apache doesnt need to follow the symlink 23:48 thd :) 23:48 chris its gitweb.cgi 23:48 chris that uses it 23:48 chris so you should be hitting http://yourserver/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi 23:49 chris and it does the rest 23:51 thd chris: I told Apache where to find gitweb.cgi in my internal domain ... 23:51 thd <VirtualHost git.agogmel1.lan:80> 23:51 thd ServerAdmin webmaster@hal7000m.agogmel1.lan 23:51 thd ServerName git.agogmel1.lan 23:51 thd HeaderName HEADER 23:51 thd # bogus but safe DocumentRoot 23:51 thd DocumentRoot /var/cache/git 23:51 thd # ErrorLog /var/log/apache-ssl/git.agogmel1.lan-error.log 23:51 thd # CustomLog /var/log/apache-ssl/git.agogmel1.lan-access.log combined 23:51 thd Alias /robots.txt /var/www/cvs.robots.txt 23:51 thd Alias /gitweb.css /var/www/gitweb.css 23:51 thd Alias /git /var/git 23:51 thd # Alias /koha_thd/ /home/thomasd/software/bibliographic/ils/koha/checkout/HEAD/git/koha_thd/ 23:51 thd # ScriptAlias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi 23:51 thd Alias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi 23:51 thd RedirectMatch permanent "^/~(.*)$" "http://agogmel1.lan/~$1" 23:51 thd <Directory "/var/cache/git/"> 23:51 thd AllowOverride None 23:51 thd Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +FollowSymLinks 23:51 thd Order allow,deny 23:51 thd Allow from all 23:51 thd </Directory> 23:52 thd </VirtualHost> 23:52 chris right theres you problem 23:52 thd where? 23:52 chris Alias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi 23:52 chris but you havent allowed +ExecCGI 23:52 chris on /usr/lib/cgi-bin 23:53 thd chris: that works if the actual files are in /var/cache/git 23:53 chris right 23:53 chris cos you have +ExecCGI for /var/cache/git 23:53 chris but not for /usr/lib/cgi-bin 23:53 thd oh 23:53 chris so apache says it doesnt have permission to exec it in that dir 23:54 chris that make sense? 23:54 thd yes thanks 23:54 chris cool