Time  Nick         Message
14:00 kados        mornin foxnorth
14:01 foxnorth     hey kados: just got your email and checking into that db error
14:01 foxnorth     kados: may need to adjust my reset/setup funcs
14:01 owen         hi kados and foxnorth
14:03 foxnorth     hey owen
14:04 paul_        hello USA
14:04 ryan         hi paul
14:04 paul         commit for C4::Context::KOHAVERSION coming in the next hours...
14:38 foxnorth     kados: i believe that error is fixed, if you want to refresh and try again
14:43 kados        hiya owen
14:44 kados        fixed
15:24 thd          kados: are you there?
15:27 thd          ryan: ping
15:38 kados        hiya thd
15:39 kados        thd: did you ever talk to paul about that issue you were having with the authorities frameworks?
15:39 paul         yes, and I don't have any idea what happends...
15:39 kados        paul: were you able to re-produce the problem?
15:39 paul         nope
15:39 kados        strange ...
15:40 paul         I asked an URL, but thd didn't get me any
15:40 kados        ahh, it's committed to rel_2_2
15:40 kados        you can try from there
15:40 paul         mmm... I thought it was on 3.0
15:40 kados        nope, not yet
15:40 paul         so I probably missed something...
15:41 paul         is chris the only person validating patches ?
15:41 kados        nope
15:41 kados        your commits are in my queue
15:41 paul         I submitted 11 patches yesterday, didn't you recieve them ?
15:41 paul         ok
15:41 kados        yes, chris approved them
15:42 kados        I'll review them today
15:42 thd          paul: I committed to the misc directory in both rel 2_2 and head if you were referring to the authorities frameworks
15:42 kados        paul: http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org/viewvc/koha/misc/marc21_standard_auth_frameworks.sql?view=log&root=koha&pathrev=rel_2_2
15:43 kados        thd: I'm going to try the auth frameworks on 3.0 right now
15:44 kados        thd: are they meant to be installed along with the default ones, or to replace the default?
15:45 thd          kados: if you import the SQL file it dumps the old authority frameworks tables and recreates them with new frameworks including a default framework
15:47 thd          kados: the default framework is more complete but unlike the bibliographic frameworks the original default was fairly close to correct and mostly complete
15:47 kados        ok
15:47 kados        thanks
15:48 thd          paul: to remind you of the problem I had when I tested is that.
15:48 kados        thd: did you go to library camp?
15:49 thd          kados: yes, I learnt quite a bit and saw chris
15:49 kados        excellent, I was going to ask
15:51 thd          kados: chris suggested I post a link for Koha to the unconference wiki about RDF when it has some real information which may be about a month from now.
15:51 kados        using the new web installer
15:51 kados        excellent idea
15:53 kados        so who is working on rdf?
15:53 kados        hmmm
15:53 kados        thd: error:
15:53 kados        marc21_standard_auth_frameworks.sql
15:53 kados        ERROR 1217 (23000) at line 144: Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails
15:53 kados        paul: see error above using web installer
15:54 paul         isn't this just a SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS = 0; problem ?
15:54 kados        ahh, I think you're right
15:55 thd          kados: I put that in the standard installation file but not in the post installation update script
15:56 thd          kados paul: should SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS = 0 be in rel_2_2 code now also?
15:56 kados        don't think so
15:56 kados        thd: I'm testing on 3.0
15:56 paul         I don't think so, there are no foreign keys in 2.2
15:58 kados        interesting
15:58 kados        now I got an error for the authorities_normal_marc21.sql file:
15:58 kados        ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 2: Duplicate entry '010-a' for key 1
15:58 kados        I think it worked though
15:59 kados        we need to fix the installer a bit though, it should be able to negociate those errors better IMO
15:59 kados        huh
15:59 kados        there are a lot of duplicates
15:59 kados        http://jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl
16:00 thd          kados: I had no SQL errors when I applied the script.  I do not understand the last error you reported.
16:00 kados        thd: can you look at the headings and confirm they are correct?
16:00 kados        or are there duplicates?
16:00 kados        if duplicates I will re-run the installer and unselect the mandatory auth file
16:01 kados        thd: I suspect your script is meant to replace the default one
16:01 kados        thd: sorry, s/script/sql/
16:02 thd          kados: yes, that is what I said.
16:02 kados        ok, I"ll make that change and reinstall
16:02 thd          kados: maybe it does not work with the web installer in that case
16:03 kados        it shuld work fine
16:04 kados        I've replaced it
16:04 kados        testing again
16:04 thd          kados: what do you mean by "replaced it"?
16:05 kados        I replaced the default auth frameworks with yours in my install dir
16:05 kados        well, not really the install dir
16:05 kados        the misc/sql-datas/en/optional dir
16:05 kados        importing now
16:05 kados        ...
16:06 kados        thd: we still need to fix the 3.0 marc simple bib frameworks
16:06 thd          kados: I changed the mandatory one in HEAD with the new frameworks
16:06 kados        add the new column
16:06 kados        for default value
16:06 kados        thd: do you have time to work on that?
16:06 thd          kados: yes, but not until this evening
16:07 kados        ok, the headings are loaded
16:07 kados        http://jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl
16:07 kados        thd: ok, so what is the bug?
16:08 kados        thd: do you want to try to reproduce on my 3.0 install?
16:09 thd          kados paul: the bug I saw was that the initial frameworks inserted from the SQL file show all the same fields and subfields (that is everything in the standard) instead of the ones specified for personal name, corporate name, etc.
16:09 kados        thd: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com user:thd pass: thd
16:09 thd          kados: yes let me look
16:09 kados        thd: you're a super librarian
16:12 thd          kados: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/authorities/authorities.pl is stranger than on rel_2_2
16:13 thd          kados: if I try to add an authority record I now have nothing appearing where the record editor form should be.
16:13 kados        sounds like a bug :-)
16:13 kados        paul: are any of your libraries using authorities in 3.0?
16:13 paul         yep, ipt widely use them
16:14 paul         although I haven't tested the cvs recently
16:14 thd          kados: the list of frameworks is still backwards alphabetically on the authorities page
16:14 kados         http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com
16:14 kados        thd / thd
16:15 kados        zebra is running, but zebraqueue not
16:15 thd          kados: what should I see there?
16:15 kados        paul: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibrary.com thd / thd
16:16 kados        paul: installed using web installer just now, running off of git version using thd's new frameworks
16:16 paul         sorry guys, but I have to leave
16:16 paul         (we have a dinner with friends...)
16:16 paul_dinner  (and i'm already late...)
16:17 thd          paul_dinner: will you be around tomorrow morning to look at this?
16:19 thd          kados: In the link to which you pointed me I have nothing in the main part of the page except "Welcome to Koha"
16:19 kados        yes, that's the default for 3.0
16:19 kados        I was just showing paul how to get to 3.0 with authorities
16:20 thd          oh :)
16:21 thd          kados: seems to be broken because no form appears in the authorities editor.
16:21 kados        yea
16:21 thd          kados: can we try rel_2_2?
16:21 kados        so add that to the list of broken features in 3.0 :-)
16:22 thd          kados: can we try on a test install of version 2 now?
16:23 kados        yes, I'd like to
16:23 kados        but I have to wait for ryan
16:24 thd          kados: by wait do you mean wait for him to come back from lunch or something?
16:24 kados        yes, 
16:25 thd          kados: so for how long should I do something else now?
16:26 kados        hehe
16:26 kados        I'll call him
16:26 kados        just a sec
16:30 thd          kados: I was speaking with him on telephone just before you and paul appeared on IRC.
16:40 ryan         thd: i'll have time to test on dev_week late tomorrow or fri morning
16:43 thd          foxnorth: hello
16:44 thd          foxnorth: Is opencataloger ready for production use?
16:48 foxnorth     thd: well i've been working on this web based cataloging app, with a different ui toolkit and a few different ideas from toins' and paul's opencataloger project
16:49 foxnorth     thd: it's not ready for production but it's getting a little closer each day :)
16:50 foxnorth     thd: eg no help system yet, still working on the marc editor
16:52 kados        thd: it'll be ready for your review in a week or two :-)
17:05 owen         kados: any further ideas on how to get the changes from my local repository to my remote one?
18:05 kados        owen: sorry, chris has been awol since he left athens :-)
18:05 kados        haven't had a chance to ask him yet
18:05 owen         That's what happens when you let your employees run free
18:05 kados        hehe, yea
18:19 owen         kados, why would the error log show only "premature end of script headers" without going into more detail?
18:43 kados        owen: because apache2 did some mentalness and it ignores the error log setting in the apache conf
18:43 kados        all the real errors are in the main log
18:44 owen         the main log?
18:44 kados        the main apache log
18:44 kados        /var/log/apache2/error.log
18:44 kados        it's damned annoying
18:44 kados        wish I could find a solution for it
18:45 kados        so we need to give you sudo privs to tail the apache error log on arwen
18:45 kados        ryan: you on that?
18:45 owen         Does that mean that my Koha install's errors are lumped together with everyone elses on that machine?
18:45 kados        yea :(
18:45 kados        but don't blame us, it's apache2 :-)
18:48 owen         Who defines the patron category category types? Those are built into Koha by default?
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18:51 kados        I think so
18:51 kados        well
18:51 kados        you can define new categories, but based on some category types
19:51 owen         Shouldn't the installation process prompt you for a value for the LibraryName system preference?
22:38 kados        chris: you around?
22:38 kados        chris: just looking at the first batch of stuff you pushed to me
22:39 kados        chris: it's an 'all or nothing' patch, I'd rather deal with each of these individually, because some of them aren't up to snuff IMO
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01:04 kados        hey chris
02:03 kados        Set-Cookie: CGISESSID=34998e2b89466ef1476e395ca8defb0a; path=/^M
02:03 kados        Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:02:02 GMT^M
02:03 kados        Content: text/html^M
02:03 kados        Content-Type: utf-8^M
02:03 kados        that's the prob with 3.0
02:03 kados        shoudln't content-type be first?
02:12 kados        fixed now
02:12 kados        yay
08:40 martinmorris hello all our little library is going to adopt koha which is good - but I'm having trouble getting barcodes to work
08:40 martinmorris i'd also appreciate some practical advice on how we actually implement it
08:43 masonj       hi martin, i might be able to help u in a few hours
08:43 masonj       im busy at the moment
08:44 js           hello, if you want some help, explain your problem
08:45 martinmorris ok, the barcode problem: I believe I have all the correct modules installed, but when I try to generate barcodes a new browser window pops up and nothing more happens
08:45 martinmorris I have added my own country code beforehand (Great Britain/GB)
08:45 martinmorris it's possible i'm just putting wrong information in beforehand
08:46 paul_        hello martinmorris
08:46 martinmorris hi paul_ :)
08:46 paul_        is your problem printing barcodes or entering barcodes when creating an item ?
08:47 martinmorris oh i can enter barcodes fine
08:47 martinmorris but they don't appear when I go to Barcode Generator and enter the details
08:47 martinmorris the barcode just autogenerate for a specific item so that's no problem
08:47 paul_        bad news : I can't help you on this, because I never use barcodes stuff (& didn't code it )
08:48 martinmorris not to worry paul, thanks anyway
08:49 martinmorris will try i ton a different browser
08:51 martinmorris on firefox is just offers to let me download barcodesgenerator.pl - which is a blank document
08:58 martinmorris well i'll keep this logged in in case anybody has ideas.  I'm using Safari and Firefox on a Mac running 10.4.9
08:58 martinmorris beg pardon, 10.4.10
09:00 paul_        martinmorris: it means there has been an internal server error I bet. You should check apache logs.
09:15 paul_        chris around ?
09:15 paul_        (a git question... another one...)