Time  Nick    Message
12:00 Mordazy lots of errors
12:00 Mordazy will make a list and will be back here
12:01 Mordazy paul: thanks anyway
12:14 chris   paul: im around now
12:14 paul    I did a git checkout -f master
12:14 chris   i jus sent joshua a patch removing those files.. that whole commit was a mistake
12:15 paul    and loose some (few) things I was working on.
12:15 paul    what's the name of my local branch ?
12:18 chris   ummm, did you make a branch?
12:18 chris   checkout -f master checks out hte master branch
12:19 chris   checkout master does too, but it doesnnt get missing files
12:19 chris   git branch will list the branches you have
12:20 chris   i think i might have caused you to lose those changes :(
12:22 chris   ok, just going in to the ofice be back on irc soon
12:23 chris   sorry paul
12:32 paul    chris : no prob, i'm discovering like you, and have lost only 2 or 3 lines of code ;-)
12:35 Mordazy bye :)
12:48 chris   ahh encoding ... thats alwyas hard
13:02 kados   paul: can you check for plugin_javascript sub somewhere in your installations?
13:02 kados   or maybe toins one?
13:02 paul    hi kados.
13:02 kados   hi :-)
13:02 paul    I did, and get no problem.
13:02 kados   hmmm
13:03 kados   so you don't have plugin_javascript routine?
13:03 paul    http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl
13:03 kados   sub plugin_javascript does not exist in koha git repo
13:03 kados   for me anyway
13:04 paul    ??? it used to be a sub called in plugins.
13:04 paul    It's commented in C4/Biblio.pm, line 2767
13:04 paul    (note I have added some comments, so the line # should not be exactly this one.
13:04 kados   yes, but that's not the sub, eh?
13:05 paul    mmm...
13:05 kados   addbiblio.pl calls plugin_javascript
13:05 paul    you probably have a plugin that is buggy.
13:05 kados   hmmm
13:05 chris   http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=cataloguing/addbiblio.pl;h=9ebe8dce3f860a58654b32d7dd5d1202f0ec3dd0;hb=d5acfe9d739c9a16c8fb294feebe071fa15acd71
13:05 chris   line 342
13:06 paul    chris : right, I missed that one.
13:06 chris   that should be commented out?
13:06 paul    nope
13:07 paul    add a "warn $plugin" just before the do $plugin,; line
13:07 paul    you sjhould see which plugin is buggy
13:08 kados   it's not a buggy plugin
13:09 kados   the problem is that line 342 calls plugin_javascript
13:09 kados   in biblio.pm
13:09 [K]     <rangi@FreeNode> yeah there is a missing plugin_javascript routine .. that i think hasnt been committed
13:09 kados   in Koha, there is no plugin_javascript subroutine
13:10 paul    the plugin_javascript routine is in the plugin.
13:10 paul    the "do $plugin" loads it dynamically
13:10 paul    at runtime.
13:10 chris   ohhhh
13:11 chris   that makes sense now
13:11 chris   thanks paul
13:11 paul    you're welcome.
13:12 chris   having the line numbers in gitweb makes things easier
13:15 paul    chris :
13:15 paul    (& kados) : not sure the virtualshelf stuff was properly committed : I don't see any differences (still use of bookshelves & refences to itemnumber field)
13:16 chris   yeah we mucked up that whole commit
13:16 chris   we are going to fix that today
13:18 dbs     q about git: has anyone put a web interface on top of a koha git repository for browsing / searching purposes?
13:19 chris   yep
13:19 chris   http://git.koha.org
13:19 dbs     well that was easy :)
13:19 chris   yeah we are still finishing off that wiki page
13:19 dbs     I'll add that to the wiki
13:19 chris   then we will do a mail to the devel list
13:19 chris   cool thanks dbs
13:20 chris   hi john :)
13:20 kados   hiya dbs
13:20 chris   is it hot down there in crawford county?
13:20 kados   dbs: we haven't done an announcement just yet, we're still working out a few git growing pains
13:21 kados   hopefully by the end of the week we'll have the kinks worked out
13:21 chris   hi kyle
13:21 dbs     groovy
13:21 kyle    hey chris, kados.
13:21 kados   hiya kyle
13:21 kyle    I was hoping to talk to you two about a new reserves system.
13:22 kados   kyle: holds? or course reserves?
13:22 kados   (holds I'm guessing, eh?)
13:22 kyle    yes, holds.
13:24 kados   kyle: sure, what do you have in mind?
13:24 kyle    The current reserves system is not satisfactory for our librarians. I am interesting in working on a new reserves system. I was directed to speak to you two. I was hoping I might get some assistance on the work, but any input would be helpful.
13:24 kados   *nod*
13:25 kyle    I have a list of requirements for the reserves system. i think i could modify the current one to fit those requirements, but I don't want to fork Reserves2. I'd rather take the existing code and create Reserves3.
13:25 chris   oh no
13:26 chris   :)
13:26 kyle    ; )
13:26 chris   how about Reserves :)
13:26 kados   it'd probably be a good time to change the nomenclature here, Holds.pm
13:26 chris   or yes Holds.pm
13:26 kyle    That can be your call, I've never even heard the term Hold in this context.
13:27 chris   its an academic library thing
13:27 kados   yea, publics call them reserves, academics call them holds
13:27 kados   and they work differently too :-)
13:27 chris   they have holds (what we call reserves) and course reserves, what they call reserves
13:27 kados   (most academic libraries don't pull books off the shelf for patrons)
13:28 kyle    How do they work? You mean Reserves => Holds, and Course Reservers => Reserves?
13:28 chris   thats what they call them yep
13:29 kyle    I'm guessing a reserve is an item that can only be checked out by a student enrolled in a certain course?
13:29 chris   yeah, thats kinda it
13:29 dbs     kyle: correct
13:29 dbs     items on reserve are usually searchable via course code, course name, instructor name
13:30 chris   actually dbs will be able to explain better, he works at a university :)
13:30 dbs     kyle: you might want to take a look at reservedirect (open source academic reserve system)
13:30 kyle    We could do something similar using the existing ClubsAndServices module.
13:30 dbs     we run Unicorn's reserves module, but reservedirect was written by people to replace Unicorn's crappy reserves module :)
13:31 chris   heh
13:31 dbs     supports multiple backends
13:31 dbs     but it's php :/
13:31 chris   ahh kyle is good with php
13:31 kyle    indeed ; )
13:32 kyle    Can you provide a link? I'm having trouble finding it.
13:32 kados   kyle: google reservesdirect
13:33 dbs     reservesdirect.org
13:33 dbs     (sorry, missed the 's'
13:33 kyle    google only gives vacationing links.
13:33 kyle    Thanks.
13:33 kados   huh, first hit for me
13:34 dbs     yeah, "reservedirect" is vacations, "reservesdirect" is what you want
13:34 kyle    How is this program meant to integrate into an existing ILS?
13:35 kados   I suspect reservesdirect is just for course reserves, eh?
13:35 dbs     Right, not regular holds, just academic reserves
13:36 dbs     kyle: haven't worked that (or i18n) out, which is why it's not running here
13:37 kyle    I see the line: Integrates with the library's catalog, providing convenient access to all course materials, physical and electronic, in one place
13:38 kyle    Do you think maybe the best solution would be to write some glue for Koha?
13:38 chris   maybe for course reserves yep
13:38 kyle    Or do you think it would be better for koha to have its own integrated solution?
13:38 chris   im all about not reinventing the wheel if we dont have too :)
13:39 kyle    I agree completely ; )
13:40 chris   owen: http://lilypond.org/git/binaries/mingw/
13:44 kyle    does anyone have any suggesstions of possible improvements to the current 'Holds' System?
13:45 kyle    I have a list of them from my librarians if anyone is interested.
13:46 kados   kyle: sounds useful, maybe start a thread on koha-devel?
13:46 chris   yeah, or a page on the wiki
13:46 chris   or both :)
13:47 kyle    both sound excellent. I will do that.
13:47 chris   i think future and holds with expiry dates
13:47 chris   would be good for a start
13:47 kyle    future?
13:47 dewey   it has been said that future is oranges
13:47 kyle    expiry dates are an excellent idea.
13:48 chris   like a start date for a reserve
13:49 kyle    ok, I understand now.
13:50 chris   we have something like it for the toledo diocese, but its pretty crufty
13:53 chris   i cant think of anything else off the top of my head
14:14 kados   paul: got a sec?
14:14 paul    yep
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14:23 chris   hi darci
14:23 [K]     <darcilicious@FreeNode> hi chris! :)
14:49 chris   paul: i just sent some mail from patches@koha.org to you, i hope it gets through
15:21 chris   right, im all caught up on patches
15:21 paul    chris : i've got 2 mails.
15:22 chris   cool, i hope they make sense
15:23 paul    i'm ok to let you deal with spent.pl ;-)
15:24 chris   cool
16:51 Brooke  Howdy
16:51 dewey   hola, Brooke
16:59 chris   hey brooke
16:59 Brooke  :D
17:09 chris   cool
17:13 Brooke  You're incredibly good natured about me making more work for ye :)
17:14 chris   hehe, it has to be done sooner or later
17:14 Brooke  chris ++
17:16 chris   right lunch time, bbiab
18:24 chris   back
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