Time  Nick          Message
12:00 chris         i helped out?
12:00 Brooke        all the time
12:00 chris         ahh :) cool thanks
12:01 Brooke        virtual chocs can be delivered from anywhere to anywhere else
12:01 Brooke        no nut allergies, too :)
12:03 chris         hehe
12:03 Brooke        dumb question
12:03 chris         fire away
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12:04 Brooke        how do I look at Book Funds? I'm clicking the little  100 and 101 for ALLCOM and Others over at the Liblime demo, and that seems to go over to an add screen.
12:05 chris         ahh you want to see what has been spent in the bookfund instead?
12:05 Brooke        yeah where do I need to clickerate for that
12:05 chris         i think those templates dont have that set up
12:06 Brooke        d'oh
12:06 chris         lemme find a page that does and check its what you are after
12:06 chris         and if so, then we can make put that on the todo list for the npl templates
12:06 Brooke        hi jaro
12:06 Brooke        n
12:08 jaron         hiya, Brooke
12:08 chris         hi jaron
12:08 jaron         hi chris
12:08 Brooke        how's it going?
12:09 jaron         not so bad.
12:09 jaron         what brings you to #koha Brooke?
12:10 jaron         I don't know that I've seen you around
12:10 Brooke        I figured that I'm single handedly helping depression in New Zealand >:)
12:10 chris         brooke is our excelllent writer of the excellent Koha newbie guide
12:10 jaron         great!
12:10 jaron         Brooke
12:10 jaron         Brooke++
12:10 jaron         documentation++
12:10 Brooke        You guys have added so many  features
12:11 Brooke        that the docs are WAY behind
12:11 chris         Brooke: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=9439
12:11 Brooke        and folks are asking me all manner of newfangled question
12:11 chris         and if you click on the spent column for one of them you end up at
12:11 chris         http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=9442
12:11 chris         is that what you were meaning?
12:12 Brooke        yeah
12:12 Brooke        those details lurked in my misty memory
12:12 Brooke        but there was an error between the chair and the mouse
12:12 chris         cool, yep i think those links are missing in the npl templates
12:13 Brooke        I swear I'm not just trying to create work
12:13 chris         dont spose either of you guys are going to library camp eh?
12:13 Brooke        Library camp you say?
12:13 jaron         I'm not going
12:13 chris         http://librarycampnyc.wikispaces.com/
12:13 chris         ill be there
12:14 Brooke        nutty fudgekins, registration is booked
12:14 chris         doh i should have asked sooner
12:15 chris         where do you live brooke?
12:15 Brooke        real close in Albany
12:16 Brooke        world tour!
12:16 jaron         anything going on in Philly?
12:16 chris         athens ohio :)
12:16 Brooke        shhhh
12:16 Brooke        we'll have Greece soon
12:16 chris         cheesesteaks jaron
12:17 Brooke        It's an easy invasion from Italy. >:)
12:17 jaron         they've been in the news lately--cheesesteaks
12:17 chris         Brooke:got an invite to do a paper for a greek library conference :)
12:18 chris         jaron: you on facebook?
12:18 jaron         nope--why?
12:18 chris         if so i can send you a link to something going down near philly
12:21 chris         :)
12:30 chris         hmm i wonder whats for breakfast .. what do you americans eat donuts and coffee? :P
12:32 jaron         I'd prefer a bagel if I was going to have something round with a hole in the middle
12:32 chris         good suggestion
12:32 jaron         have you been to the States much?
12:32 chris         yeah, my wife is from Pittsburgh originally
12:32 jaron         I'm from the 'Burgh myself
12:33 chris         oh cool
12:33 chris         shes from west view
12:33 jaron         well, to the east
12:33 jaron         Penn Hills and Monroeville
12:33 chris         ohh cool
12:34 chris         we get back to pgh usually once every couple of years
12:34 jaron         that's about how often I get back there
12:35 jaron         now that I go back I see that it's not such a bad place in a lot of ways
12:35 jaron         when I was younger all I wanted to do was get out of there
12:35 chris         yeah i quite like it
12:35 kados         mornin
12:35 chris         yeah, laurel and her brothers were the same
12:35 jaron         Warhol, too :)
12:36 jaron         hi, kados
12:41 chris         jaron:: i saw the steelers play the browns in cleveland  once, i think the fact i was an nzer was the only thing that saved me from being beaten up for cheering for the steelers :)
12:41 jaron         heh
12:50 chris         ok off to get some food
15:04 foxnorth      hi all...
15:04 foxnorth      kados around?
15:05 kados         hey foxnorth
15:05 dewey         foxnorth is the programmer working on the new cataloging app for google summer of code
15:05 foxnorth      hey kados
15:05 foxnorth      just reading through your emai-- i like your ideas
15:05 kados         sweet
15:05 foxnorth      i'm not clear though how you envision the tabs working--
15:06 foxnorth      do you see just two tabs total, one for work stuff and one for options?
15:06 foxnorth      or do you envision tabs within that work module for searching etc (kind of like now), and then another main options tab?
15:07 kados         well ... good question
15:07 kados         y'know, I'm not sure what the function if the second-level tabs (kind of like now) are
15:07 kados         s/if/of/
15:08 kados         I guess just that you can have several things going on at once?
15:08 kados         was there a plan to make interaction between tabs possible at some point?
15:08 foxnorth      right...so you can have a couple of records open if you want to, to compare
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15:08 foxnorth      ah that's a good point, i hadn't thought of that exactly
15:08 foxnorth      hhhm
15:08 jaron         is that comparing in like a split view?
15:08 kados         well, if we want to do a split view, that should be a feature
15:09 foxnorth      a split view would work better in this case, you guys are right
15:09 kados         ie, you select one or more records, put them into the 'split view' folder
15:09 foxnorth      interesting idea
15:09 kados         then you go into that folder and look at them, merge fields, etc.
15:09 foxnorth      and maybe use something like your marc diff program jaron?
15:09 jaron         I've done something like diff for my ruby script
15:09 foxnorth      right- that's a very cool idea
15:10 kados         chris also wrote a side-by-side merge thing for the koha marc editor
15:10 jaron         but gui could make it much better
15:10 kados         *nod*
15:10 foxnorth      interesting
15:10 foxnorth      hhmm....
15:10 foxnorth      i guess i had originally envisioned being able to have multiple record tabs open, but i think you guys might have a better idea here...
15:10 kados         but i think the main thing now is, we need to take a step back and look at the overall ui design and workflows
15:11 foxnorth      after all, switching between tabs isn't too great
15:11 foxnorth      yeah i agree
15:11 jaron         can I take a look at what you've got so far?
15:11 foxnorth      definately!
15:11 jaron         priv msg if you want
15:11 kados         done
15:12 kados         foxnorth: so what I'd say is, we have three tabs: search' 'edit' and 'options'
15:12 foxnorth      uh huh
15:12 kados         if you click on 'edit' without doing a search, you can make a new record
15:12 foxnorth      would have to make that explicit
15:12 kados         actually, maybe we shouldn't have an edit tab
15:13 foxnorth      but that would work and be simpler than current approach
15:13 kados         that'd be kinda confusing actually
15:13 foxnorth      right- where would we stick the editor, though, if we have just 1 work tab?
15:13 jaron         search should happen with an [ENTER] in the search box, btw.
15:13 foxnorth      yeah, you're right
15:13 kados         jaron: yea, that's on the list :-)
15:14 kados         *thinking*
15:14 foxnorth      the editor needs to be full screen and take up enough room to see it...
15:14 kados         absolutely
15:14 foxnorth      so the preview panel wouldn't be big enough
15:14 kados         well, lets take zimbra
15:14 foxnorth      i've got it open now
15:14 kados         when you're reading a message, you don't see the list of messages
15:14 foxnorth      is that right?
15:14 kados         when you're making a new message, you don't see the list of messages
15:14 kados         it's contextual
15:15 kados         which I think makes a lot of sense
15:15 kados         cuz you're really only ever doing one thing
15:15 foxnorth      can you dbl click message to view it?  can't seem to do that
15:15 kados         ahh, do you have your preview pane on?
15:15 foxnorth      i see it in the preview pane only
15:15 foxnorth      yeah
15:15 kados         well click on 'reply'
15:16 kados         you'll see the list of messages goes away
15:16 foxnorth      aaah
15:16 kados         I guess for reading, you don't need the list to go away
15:16 foxnorth      that makes more sense
15:16 foxnorth      ok well this is a good example of how to do it
15:16 foxnorth      just clicking edit button opens it up like this or something
15:16 kados         *nod*
15:16 foxnorth      and closing returns you to search list and preview
15:16 kados         exactly
15:16 jaron         what's a good search? I get search completed but to results :(
15:17 kados         jaron: xml
15:17 foxnorth      and record list can change depending on whether you click search results folder or save folder over at left
15:17 foxnorth      try xml as keyword
15:17 kados         foxnorth: yea
15:17 kados         foxnorth: that'd be quite trick I think
15:17 foxnorth      jaron: i don't *think* "console not defined" errors should be popping up
15:17 kados         and each server can be represented as a 'folderish' object
15:17 foxnorth      right that's a great idea
15:17 kados         ie, it changes the view
15:17 foxnorth      as well as save files
15:18 jaron         yeah, you definitely want to associate hit with servers
15:18 foxnorth      and you just have 1 current search open at a time
15:18 kados         jaron: it does already
15:18 jaron         if I get a record from a good source I do less editing than some other sources
15:18 foxnorth      right
15:18 kados         jaron: look at the left-hand ... but it's just text for now
15:18 jaron         I'm still not getting any records to show up :(
15:18 foxnorth      arg
15:18 foxnorth      can you install/open firebug?
15:18 kados         might need to delete your google gears directory
15:18 kados         er ... the db for eowyn
15:19 kados         bbiab
15:19 foxnorth      jaron: could be there's an error which i thought i had fixed- if you check in firebug we can nail it down
15:20 foxnorth      jaron: just checked on mine
15:20 foxnorth      jaron: it is this debugging i have on
15:21 foxnorth      jaron: hang on 1 sec while i change that
15:21 jaron         k
15:22 foxnorth      jaron: sorry- try refreshign whole app now
15:22 foxnorth      jaron: should work
15:22 foxnorth      jaron: my fault for updating but not turning off debugging
15:22 jaron         ok, now it works--thanks
15:23 foxnorth      there actually should be a paging bar (records 1 of 40...) which apparently isn't displaying :(
15:23 foxnorth      i need to put that at the top of the list i think
15:23 foxnorth      brb
15:26 jaron         hmmm...up and down arrows skip over records in the results
15:26 foxnorth      jaron: hhm lemme try that
15:26 foxnorth      jaron: hhm doesn't seem to be skipping for me, but preview panel doesn't get updated
15:26 foxnorth      strange
15:27 jaron         and then I want to just hit enter to edit the highlighted record
15:27 jaron         other little interface issues, but just quibbles right now :)
15:27 foxnorth      good idea
15:27 foxnorth      all is welcome!
15:28 foxnorth      jaron: did you check the editor out?
15:29 jaron         and I'm happy with the present layout of results and tabs for editing as long as I can use keystrokes to navigate between tabs
15:29 foxnorth      uh huh
15:29 jaron         yeah, some fields get cut off the bottom by the status bar
15:29 foxnorth      yeah, that's no good
15:30 foxnorth      and there's still a lot of whitespace in the editor, isn't there?
15:30 foxnorth      tags could be closer spaced vertically i think
15:30 jaron         yeah, it seem sthe indicators take up more than one line height
15:30 foxnorth      fixed field editor still looks a little jumbled
15:30 jaron         though it's good that they're narrower now :)
15:30 jaron         yes, it does
15:31 jaron         that's a difficult one because you don't want line breaks if you want to keep the same layout as other bib tools
15:32 foxnorth      yeah
15:32 foxnorth      and i wanted to keep subfields all together within a tag like other programs
15:32 foxnorth      instead of breaking them out vertically or something
15:33 jaron         I do like the subfield coloring
15:33 foxnorth      cool i really wanted that
15:33 foxnorth      hard enough to read tags as it is
15:33 jaron         for some reason when I click to edit a field the font gets smaller?
15:33 foxnorth      yeah it does- it's opening up a little wysiwyg html editor in there
15:34 foxnorth      need to fix that of course
15:34 jaron         i wonder if it'd be good to be more compact and have zebra stripes
15:34 foxnorth      if we stick with this editor implementation
15:34 foxnorth      yeah, zebra stripes are a good idea
15:34 foxnorth      what else would you look for in an editor?
15:34 jaron         allows the lines to be closer together and still tell what belongs to what
15:34 foxnorth      i personally am a huge fan of keystrokes
15:34 foxnorth      yeah
15:35 jaron         I don't want to click between fields to edit them I definitely want keyboard control it's faster
15:35 foxnorth      as well as updating things like 260 |c from fixed field Date1
15:35 foxnorth      agreed
15:35 foxnorth      i definately want that too
15:35 foxnorth      can't stand mouse when cataloging
15:36 jaron         have you thought about scripted or macro-like changes?  might be getting ahead of things
15:36 foxnorth      definately
15:36 jaron         good
15:36 foxnorth      i'd like to allow plugins to do stuff like that
15:36 jaron         nice
15:36 foxnorth      make the editor as flexible and scriptable as possible
15:36 foxnorth      this is always what i strived for when cataloging!
15:37 foxnorth      with macros and such
15:37 jaron         try clicking in the editor on a field that has more than one line--ie wraps
15:37 jaron         I can't do it right now
15:37 jaron         won't give focus to that field
15:37 foxnorth      really...
15:37 foxnorth      i just managed it
15:38 foxnorth      could be these little wysiwyg editors misbehaving
15:38 foxnorth      i've had some misgivings about them
15:38 foxnorth      adn i'm not certain we should stick with them
15:38 foxnorth      could be better to have 1 big wysiwyg editor
15:38 foxnorth      and then parse fields to extract marc after
15:38 foxnorth      instead of having individual divs for each tag etc
15:38 foxnorth      not sure
15:38 jaron         perl has marcmaker/breaker that could do that
15:38 jaron         only problem is you would probably loose context sensitive help
15:39 foxnorth      that's right
15:39 foxnorth      which is 1 reason i split them up
15:39 foxnorth      that, and being able to drag/drop as well
15:39 foxnorth      it's a dilemma...
15:40 foxnorth      did you manage to get that multi line thing to focus?
15:40 jaron         in the best world you would have a choice
15:40 foxnorth      heh
15:40 foxnorth      well, that could be done
15:40 jaron         no. it puts focus on the line above or below
15:40 foxnorth      ah hah
15:40 jaron         call it the experts editor
15:40 foxnorth      haven't encountered that
15:40 foxnorth      hhmm
15:41 jaron         seems to only happen when there are more than one lines with wraps in a row?
15:41 foxnorth      interesting
15:41 foxnorth      lemme try on a diff record
15:41 jaron         XML Schema Essentials
15:41 jaron         the 856 lines
15:42 foxnorth      that's just what i've got open
15:42 foxnorth      but it's working for me
15:42 foxnorth      but i think these things may be a little flaky
15:42 jaron         do the 856 lines wrap for you?
15:42 jaron         try a narrower browser window
15:43 foxnorth      actually no, just the 505
15:43 foxnorth      ah wait
15:43 foxnorth      just clicked one and only the top focuses
15:43 foxnorth      doh
15:43 foxnorth      the problem is they've all got the same id!
15:43 jaron         yeah
15:43 foxnorth      silly me
15:44 foxnorth      better make a note of that one
15:44 foxnorth      a doozy
15:44 jaron         while we're at it--there are two buttons between the tabs and the search and they are partly obscured
15:44 jaron         I can only see what they are from tooltips
15:45 jaron         search and save
15:45 foxnorth      ah yeah
15:45 foxnorth      thsoe are small demo icons
15:45 foxnorth      we'll do something more visible
15:45 jaron         k
15:46 foxnorth      probably i'll use jquery to assign unique id's to multiple tags and then return them to single id for extracting marc on save
15:46 foxnorth      that should work i think
15:47 jaron         yeah, you got me there
15:47 jaron         well, lunch time
15:47 jaron         feel free to ping anytime me if you need someone to poke at it more
15:47 foxnorth      hey thanks for all the ideas!  it'd be great to integrate some of your ruby scripts as plugins for this thing!
15:48 jaron         yeah, I could rewrite some in perl even
15:48 jaron         they're really trivial
15:48 foxnorth      cool
15:48 jaron         but together get a lot of work done
15:50 foxnorth      very cool- what i always wanted to do as cataloger1
16:03 kados         akk
16:03 kados         sorry foxnorth
16:06 kados         foxnorth: so ...
16:06 kados         foxnorth: did we resolve the tabs stuff enough? what's the plan again?
16:08 kados         ooh, jaron has some great ideas
16:08 foxnorth      yeah!
16:10 foxnorth      what do we think about the tabs then?
16:10 foxnorth      i like the idea of having a clean interface with just the 1 search/edit tab
16:10 kados         yea, i guess we need to chat abotu that
16:10 kados         I think I agree
16:10 kados         maybe ...
16:10 foxnorth      and a persistent left hand folder tree as in zimbra?
16:10 kados         Biblios | Authorities | Holdings | Options
16:10 foxnorth      although having multiple record editors open wouldn't work so well
16:11 kados         should be the tabs
16:11 kados         maybe ...
16:11 foxnorth      although what if i don't want to edit authorities and holdings?
16:11 kados         well, you don't have to
16:11 foxnorth      then they would be kind of useless for me
16:11 kados         yep
16:11 foxnorth      hhhmm
16:11 kados         well in zimbra, if you don't use the 'documents' feature, it's useless
16:11 foxnorth      true
16:11 kados         but it's still a separate module
16:12 kados         i think the point of the tabs is separate modules
16:12 kados         so we might have another module later on we want to add
16:12 foxnorth      hhmm.....i coudl see that
16:12 foxnorth      sure
16:12 kados         (mabe in fact, the current tab is for biblios, authorities, holdings ... I dunno)
16:12 kados         for at least for now we really just have two tabs I think
16:13 foxnorth      and get around the multiple open records with the split idea
16:13 kados         *nod*
16:13 foxnorth      sorry i seem to be hung up on that! :)
16:13 foxnorth      but the split idea is a good one
16:13 foxnorth      and so each search would be put in a recent searches button/area
16:13 kados         yup
16:14 foxnorth      but only 1 search would be open at once in the view pane
16:14 kados         yep
16:14 kados         for now
16:14 foxnorth      divided into server folders on the left hand tree list
16:14 kados         I think for now we should focus on the core tasks
16:14 foxnorth      agreed
16:14 kados         and making the interface work smoothly for those
16:14 foxnorth      yeah
16:14 foxnorth      i think the tree list i the last ui element of extjs i haven't used
16:15 foxnorth      will be fun to learn
16:15 foxnorth      and very intuitive
16:15 foxnorth      for the end user i hope
16:15 kados         w00t
16:15 kados         I can't wait until i can drag-drop a record from results into my save file :-)
16:15 foxnorth      me too
16:15 foxnorth      in terms of save files
16:16 foxnorth      definately want to be able to name them to keep track of various projects etc
16:17 foxnorth      maybe best to create a new save file table to keep track of data about them
16:17 foxnorth      as it currently stands, the save files exist only in so far as each record has a particular status
16:17 foxnorth      not sure how complex we want to get
16:17 foxnorth      but for the future, a new table might allow more room for growth
16:18 foxnorth      ?
16:18 kados         my idea
16:18 kados         is to have save 'folders'
16:18 foxnorth      right
16:18 kados         so you have a root folder, and you can add new folders
16:18 kados         and they should nest
16:18 foxnorth      each would be row in save file table
16:18 foxnorth      yeah
16:19 foxnorth      that would be cool
16:19 kados         so we have some default folders that you can'd delete
16:19 kados         drafts is one
16:19 foxnorth      how to track folder nesting in save file sql table?
16:19 foxnorth      that's a good idea
16:19 kados         trash is another
16:19 foxnorth      yeah
16:19 kados         saved is another
16:19 kados         then you can add subfolders to the saved one
16:19 kados         if you want to further organize
16:19 foxnorth      sure
16:20 chris         http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
16:20 kados         ext had some folder nesting stuff ... how do they track it?
16:20 kados         there are a couple ways to handle it in sql
16:20 foxnorth      not sure how they do it
16:20 foxnorth      may just be populated from xml and that's it
16:20 kados         nested sets (hard to understand, but fast)
16:21 kados         and store parentid is the other way
16:21 foxnorth      makes sense
16:21 kados         and order if you want to get fancy
16:21 foxnorth      how do you mean?
16:22 kados         well, probably makes sense to just order the folders by alphabetical
16:22 foxnorth      ah you mean sorting them
16:22 kados         yea
16:22 foxnorth      actually i think ext has a tree sorter of some sorts
16:23 foxnorth      have you checked out the extjs documentation page?  some good examples on there
16:23 kados         cool
16:23 foxnorth      http://extjs.com/deploy/ext/docs/index.html
16:23 kados         yea, i did peek yesterday
16:23 foxnorth      ok let's see then
16:23 foxnorth      2 main tabs: a work tab and an options tab for now
16:24 kados         yep
16:24 foxnorth      within work tab a left hand tree list with servers to search/save and save folders
16:24 kados         yep
16:24 foxnorth      and a dual vertical pane in the middle with grid for view search results or save file
16:24 foxnorth      then opening a record from one of those
16:24 foxnorth      hides that contentpanel and shows the editor panel
16:24 kados         brilliant
16:24 foxnorth      closing record will of course return to default view
16:25 kados         you got it
16:25 foxnorth      that sounds very cool
16:25 kados         and resident 'action' buttons that let the user perform tasks
16:25 foxnorth      right
16:25 foxnorth      at top of tab
16:25 kados         they have labels, icons and tooltips
16:25 foxnorth      right
16:25 foxnorth      and change according to srch results, save file or editor views
16:25 dewey         foxnorth: that doesn't look right
16:26 kados         yep, exactly
16:26 foxnorth      good
16:26 foxnorth      i think this will be a lot easier to navigate
16:26 foxnorth      along with keyboard shortcuts
16:26 foxnorth      (got to have those)
16:26 kados         yep
16:26 kados         hehe, should keep you busy :-)
16:26 foxnorth      alright so time to get coding!
16:27 foxnorth      brb
16:51 foxnorth      scratch that-- bbiab
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19:23 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> heya ru55el :)
19:24 chris         thats 'new dad' russel :)
19:27 [K]           <ru55el@FreeNode> hiya darci
19:27 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> that's right!!
19:27 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> congratulations!! :)
19:28 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> heya, chris -- how's the u.s. treating you so far? :)
19:28 chris         so far so good
19:29 [K]           <ru55el@FreeNode> thanks darci
19:32 chris         its hot though :)
19:34 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> that's right, it's winter time where you came from :)
19:35 chris         sure is, its some mental heat here today .. 92f (thats 33c for russ)
19:36 chris         and it was about 12c when i left wellington
19:36 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> yowza
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21:57 kados         foxnorth_away: still around?
21:57 kados         foxnorth_away: eowyn seems to have gone away
22:13 [K]           <darcilicious@FreeNode> gotta go...
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22:19 foxnorth_away kados: oops
22:19 foxnorth_away kados: lemme recopy that over to www
22:20 foxnorth_away \me checking
22:21 foxnorth_away kados: ok it's back. sorry 'bout that.  my mistake when updating svn
22:22 kados         Trouble with db: Database operation failed. ERROR: database is locked DETAIL: database is locked
22:23 kados         could we have a 'unlock db' button added to that error?
22:23 kados         otherwise I have to delete the db every time
22:32 foxnorth      yeah that's getting annoying isn't it. i've been closing and reopening firefox to get around
22:33 foxnorth      i need to investigate why that's popping up
22:33 foxnorth      i *think* i'm now closing all db connections
22:33 foxnorth      but it's entirely possible i've missed one/some or that's not it at all ...
23:17 kados         w00t
09:21 Brooke        hi
09:47 chris         hey brooke, just sent you an email
09:47 chris         you're up early .. whats ur excuse mine is my body thinks its in nz still :)
09:47 Brooke        Outstanding, I'll check it in a sec - I'm mid email
09:47 Brooke        I don't do the whole sleep thing well
09:47 Brooke        Koha is a great excuse :D
09:48 chris         hehe
09:51 Brooke        I love having something to do no matter the hour. The world has to put me to some use for all the oxygen I steal
09:51 chris         lol
09:56 Brooke        :)
09:56 Brooke        Wow that was quick
09:56 Brooke        Chris ++
09:56 Brooke        only my coding loops infinitely
09:57 Brooke        Ah