Time Nick Message 23:55 pananohacker logbot: help 23:31 pananohacker Hello. 23:31 pananohacker _ 21:34 thd kados: are you there? 17:03 thd kados: what they are actually using now is even simpler and anyone can edit the whole record wiki style by just choosing edit or whatever the function is on a record 17:01 thd http://www.kcoyle.net/temp/PharosSchema+kc.html 17:00 kados that link doesn't work for me 17:00 thd :0 17:00 kados that's mental! 17:00 kados heh, they licensed it under a draft of a license? 17:00 thd kados: Karen Coyle's notes on the schema are at http://www.kcoyle.net/temp/PharosSchema . 16:53 thd kados: obviously they have it in the source code which is available under the AGPL 3 license which is still only a first draft with one fatal bug at FSF. 16:51 kados thd: where is the data model defined? 16:51 thd kados: yet they have the backing of people with real money 16:50 kados *nod* 16:50 thd kados: Koha is a few orders of magnitude better than what they have 16:49 thd s/by/from/ 16:48 thd kados: Karen Coyle has advised them but apparently they have not paid much attention because their XML fields which are populated by LC records do not even have more than one author and many other problems 16:47 thd kados: their XML schema is simpler than Dublin Core 16:45 kados not yet 16:44 thd kados: have you looked at how their data is populated and their XML schema? 16:43 kados yep, I've seen it 16:43 thd kados: my other question is have you seen http://demo.openlibrary.org ? 16:39 thd kados: when I added that file to rel_2_2 a year ago I did not use that syntax 16:38 kados nope 16:37 thd kados: is that something new? 16:37 kados missing the type ext: 16:37 kados cvs -z3 -d ext:firstname.lastname@example.org:/sources/koha add marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql 16:37 kados you need: 16:36 kados ahh, hang on 16:36 kados did you add your ssh key to savannah? 16:36 kados nothing 16:35 thd kados: what was wrong with that syntax? 16:35 thd this command was issued from my HEAD checkout directory 16:35 thd kados: I used: cvs -z3 -d email@example.com:/sources/koha add marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql 16:31 thd :) 16:30 kados (can't do that in CVS anyway) 16:30 kados permissions haven't changed 16:29 thd kados: the only thing which I did not do was to try adding again while logging the response 16:28 thd yes 16:27 kados cvs commit filename 16:27 kados cvs add filename 16:27 kados did you do a cvs add? 16:27 kados hmmm 16:25 thd kados: I have been able to add new files in the past. Have the permissions changed? 16:24 thd kados: I made an extra column version of the the simple frameworks representing various media types but I have been unable to add it to the misc directrory in HEAD 16:22 kados sure 16:22 thd kados: I have a couple of other questions 16:22 thd I will think about my suggestions from a year ago and propose something tomorrow 16:20 thd s/ than/,/ 16:20 thd subfields are defined in another 16:19 thd kados: just to be clear than the fields and current limited indicator support is defined in one table 16:18 kados :-) 16:18 kados so I'm not really the one to ask 16:18 kados and ... I'm not really a database designer :-) 16:18 kados no, just haven't thought about it much 16:18 thd kados: you hesitate? 16:16 kados possibly 16:16 kados hmmm 16:14 thd kados: would a new table for adding better support for indicators be necessarily better because it would not break any existing code? 16:11 kados yep 16:08 thd kados: are you there? 16:06 thd kados: adding a new table could not break anything 16:05 thd kados: should improved support for indicators go where indicators are treated now in the table for the field generally or should they have their own table like subfields? 16:04 kados right 16:02 thd kados: the list should obviously start with something for indicator positions similar to what is present for subfields 16:01 thd kados: given your statement about some code which breaks on reading would that not unnecessarily delay the release? 16:01 kados I know indicators is one area we could improve in 16:00 kados well, weve discussed adding columns to the framework, but I haven't seen a list yet 16:00 kados :-) 15:59 thd so you are inviting me to break head by suggesting new columns now rather than later? 15:58 thd hello kados 15:58 kados hiya thd 13:05 dewey kados is just a bit tied up 13:05 thd` kados?