Time Nick Message 10:10 hdl OK thanks 10:09 chris currently yes, thats all its being used for 10:09 hdl breakdown again 10:08 hdl So an aqorderbrakdown is just to store the budget the line is linked to ? 10:08 hdl OK. 10:07 chris does that help? 10:07 chris so aqorderbreakdown isnt needed 10:07 chris and that table could disapear .. originally i had planned that one ordernumber might have lots of orders .. but now we have 1 basket with lots of ordernumbers 10:06 chris bookfund could be moved to aqorder 10:06 chris but we just order by them by ordernumber instead 10:05 chris so you could have 1 .. 10 in linenumber then order them that way on the invoice 10:05 chris linenumber isnt used but the idea for it is that you have maybe 10 lines in a basket 10:04 chris right ordernumber and bookfund are always filled in 10:04 hdl ordernumberok But linenumber is NULL. 10:04 hdl So I want to understand. 10:03 hdl yes. I have this table but it is quite empty for me. 10:03 hdl *aqorderbreakdown* here for ? 10:03 chris what is it for? 10:02 hdl why is aqorderbrakdown here for ? 10:02 chris yep 10:02 hdl chris around ? 09:36 toins hehe 09:34 chris s/seem/see/ 09:34 chris its good to seem commits being made :) 09:33 chris cool 09:32 chris :) 09:32 toins but opencataloger yes ! 09:32 toins there isn't koha in 09:32 chris ohh i havent seen that one 09:31 toins it's the same idea 09:31 toins chris: do you know this one => http://cia.vc/ 09:31 toins yes 09:29 chris it fetches the code from cvs and analyses it, quite smart 09:28 chris quite interesting 09:28 chris http://www.ohloh.net/projects/1541 09:28 chris i saw it there the other day, it had been registered but no one had filled out any info, so i added some information 09:27 toins interesting... 09:24 chris http://www.ohloh.net/projects/1541/contributors/37910 09:24 chris and for toins 09:24 chris have you seen this http://www.ohloh.net/projects/1541/contributors/37880 09:20 chris :) 09:18 hdl Maybe Fidji. 09:18 hdl Haïti or thaïti (seems more realistic) 09:11 chris maybe tahiti next ? :) 09:08 chris taking turns :) 09:08 chris ohhh 09:08 hdl Paul is going next time (maybe in late october) 09:08 chris there are sometimes very cheap flights from nz to new caledonia 09:07 chris next time (if you go back) maybe I can meet you there :-) 09:07 hdl For work. (I was without my wife.) 09:07 chris yes, you were quite close :) 09:07 hdl I wish I could visit you....;) 09:07 chris or both :) 09:07 chris for work, or for holiday? 09:06 hdl yes 09:06 chris hdl: you were in new caledonia recently? 09:04 chris ahh, people do some strange things some times :) 09:03 hdl Yes. But java was added on top of this. 09:02 chris and the mom use koha? 09:00 chris ahh i see 09:00 hdl to have an idea of the result. 09:00 hdl http://frantiq.mom.fr/html/macles/1__.html 08:59 chris very good idea 08:59 hdl http://frantiq.mom.fr/html/macles/0__.html 08:59 chris *nod* 08:58 hdl (+ I must commit a css for tabs to work.) 08:58 chris right 08:58 hdl But structure has to be precisely defined. 08:58 hdl I think this script can be very helpful for structured authorised_values. 08:57 chris very cool 08:57 hdl yes. 08:57 chris http://frantiq.mom.fr/portal.php 08:57 hdl say "Ming period" is 562,542,521 08:56 hdl + they have multiple entries 08:56 hdl Z on colums. 08:56 hdl Y on line 08:55 hdl X being the tab number 08:55 chris wow 08:55 hdl with tables 08:55 hdl to have mutiple tabs 08:55 hdl It allows them, from authorised_values consituted as XYZ 08:54 chris ahh 08:54 hdl But this plugin is FRANTIQ specifiq. 08:54 toins yes... 08:54 hdl english for macles is mykeys 08:54 chris :) 08:54 hdl and yes 08:53 toins chris: english for macles is mykey 08:53 hdl nope. 08:53 chris ahh yep, ill ask hdl 08:53 chris is it a french word? 08:53 toins ask hdl 08:53 toins but don't know what it does. 08:52 toins macles is a plugin isn't it ? 08:52 chris hi toins :) 08:52 toins hi chris 08:52 chris toins do you know? 22:58 kados dunno yet 22:57 russel is sara back? 22:57 kados cool 22:57 chris ur back now 22:57 chris yep 22:57 kados chris: freenode seems to have split 22:56 kados chris: can you see me? 21:18 chris ahh fair enough 21:18 darcilicious nope. home on personal time at the moment :) 21:18 chris clocking in from work darci? 21:18 chris :) 21:18 darcilicious afternoon chris :) 21:16 chris morning 19:58 kados thx 19:58 matthewmetzger sure, I'll do that. 19:58 kados matthewmetzger: could you post the questions to the list? 19:58 matthewmetzger okay. 19:58 kados matthewmetzger: I'm kinda swamped atm 19:58 matthewmetzger kados: do you have a bit of time for questions about my inventory.pl problem? 19:57 kados slef: sounds good 19:57 slef kados: no point IMO. Just give an apt source line, once I make it an apt source (probably on people.d.o) 19:57 kados *nod* 19:56 kados slef: I haven't seen them yet though 19:56 slef kados: dh-make-perl --cpan --build modulename 19:56 kados slef: we could distribute your debs along with the releases 19:56 slef matthewmetzger: I am a debian developer and will upload them when I get enough time to make them follow policy 19:55 slef matthewmetzger: so look at that URL I mentioned for the debs of the CPAN stuff 19:55 kados some of the modules are only avaialble on CPAN 19:55 kados hehe, no :-) 19:55 slef kados: has it stopped telling people to splatter cpan modules across their filesystem? ;-) 19:55 kados slef: yep, corrected that 19:55 kados matthewmetzger: for a debian system it should take about 30 minutes to install 19:54 slef kados: have you expanded "4. start Zebra" or whatever it was? 19:54 matthewmetzger thanks. 19:54 slef here for opaque steps 19:54 slef matthew: there's a quickstart in the tarball when I tried it, but ask 19:54 kados matthewmetzger: there's a install doc that's pretty step-by-step 19:54 kados slef: just unit tests for an installed system 19:54 kados slef: we don't have any build tests 19:54 slef I thought that was for installed systems? 19:54 kados ahh 19:54 matthewmetzger Today, I have to work on that inventory report. But, are there some docs for the prerelease? 19:53 kados koha/t/ 19:53 slef kados: reply to email: what dir are the build unit tests in? 19:53 kados give that a shot if you're especially eager 19:53 kados http://kados.org/stuff/koha_30_developers_prerelease_0.4.tgz 19:53 kados there's a pre-release version you can test today if you want 19:53 matthewmetzger Good stuff. Time permitting, I'd like to test a RC. 19:52 kados and stable in mid-Sept 19:52 slef matthewmetzger: these are targets. The more people beta-test and bug-fix the release candidates (rc), the more likely we can meet them. 19:52 kados testing in mid-Aug 19:52 kados developers in mid-July 19:52 kados 2. testing 19:52 kados 1. developers 19:51 kados I'd like to do two releases between now and 'stable' 19:51 slef heh 19:51 kados slef: mid-July :-) 19:51 slef kados: rc date? 19:51 matthewmetzger Wow! That's closer than I expected. Mid sept. is still great. 19:51 kados mid-sept 19:50 kados slef: I'm aiming for Sept 19:50 slef JCATS: etch. See http://serene.ttllp.co.uk/~mjr/ for packages and notes for etch 19:50 slef matthewmetzger: kados's call, but I estimate late-July release-candidates, so probably mid-August 3.0 19:50 JCATS debian sarge or etch? 19:49 slef 2.2.9 19:49 slef if you want to beta-test and bug-fix, go for it ;-) 19:49 JCATS do u recommend me version 2.2.9 or version 2.4? 19:49 matthewmetzger Any estimates to when that 3.0 release will be? 19:49 JCATS ok 19:49 slef IMO no. It can be massaged into production (and has been by several people) but most users would be better off waiting for a real release. 19:48 JCATS is koha 3.0 ready for production? 19:47 slef (general online chat tip: don't ask to ask - just ask) 19:47 JCATS lol 19:47 slef yep... no promises I can answer it, or that anyone else is awake 19:47 JCATS may I ask smth? 19:47 slef hello JCATS! 19:46 slef Try /nick yourname to set your screen name 19:46 CGI603 hello slef 19:46 slef hello guest! 18:57 matthewmetzger Hello, I'm working on my inventory.pl problem and I have some questions. Do kados or ryan have some time? 17:54 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: darcilicious n=plinkit@159.121.122.150 17:30 slef ok, if it's the same issue, I'll commit a minimal fix 17:29 ryan slef: yes, i think chris answered this on list 17:25 slef hi all. Can someone take a look at kohabug 1382 and tell me whether it's the same issue chris has been fiddling with? 16:31 kyle__ hello all, I'm working on an offline circulation system, and I have a question about Auth::checkpw, anyone care to answer a question? : ) 15:50 lloyd haha 15:50 [K] * darcilicious@FreeNode suspects [K] would be heavily involved ;-) 15:49 lloyd you can pm through it, but god knows how lol 15:49 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> :-) 15:49 lloyd look at that, its actually come in useful :p 15:48 lloyd ;) 15:46 [K] * darcilicious@FreeNode actually discovered it late last week... 15:46 kados huh, weird 15:46 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> hey kados! (can't reach the NZ server from work on port 6667. are there any other ports?) 15:46 kados darci discovers the freenode relay :-) 15:46 kados hey darci 15:41 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: darcilicious n=plinkit@159.121.122.150 15:22 kados mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.32, for pc-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.2 15:22 hdl mysql version ? 15:21 hdl out of 89 15:21 kados instead of 90 I think 15:21 kados now db has 87 tables 15:21 hdl Aha !!! 15:21 hdl Please contact your system administrator 15:21 hdl Query was empty 15:21 hdl The following error occcurred while importing the database structure: 15:20 kados I will wait 15:20 kados ok, it's dropped, try it now 15:19 hdl And *I* will try 15:19 hdl pls keep it dropped. 15:18 kados hdl: on aragorm there IS a problem, it gives the error "Query was empty" 15:18 hdl Will try tonight 15:17 hdl I cannot do it right away... 15:17 hdl on aragorn I had no problems. 15:16 kados ahh, try from the installer please 15:15 hdl not from the installer using mysql. 15:15 kados hdl: you can see what happens to me here: http://aragorn.metavore.com 15:15 kados hdl: using the new kohastructure that you sent me? 15:15 kados hdl: you tried it from the installer? 14:13 hdl kados : I have not had any problem with kohastructure import. 13:51 hdl i shall try 13:51 kados hdl: I have to get breakfast, I'll be back soon, could you try to use that kohastructure for an install, see if it works for you? 13:51 kados the same problem I had before with Paul's commit 13:51 kados Please contact your system administrator 13:50 kados Query was empty 13:50 kados The following error occcurred while importing the database structure: 13:50 kados hdl: 13:47 kados and serials from rel_2_2 also 13:47 kados label printing is much improved 13:46 kados we also have some improvements to add from dev_week 13:46 hdl I hope so. 13:46 kados rel-TG maybe? :-) 13:46 kados it's in a branch I believe 13:45 hdl No. What he designed for NEU. I would like to see some improvements he made. 13:45 kados hdl: what stuff? sql def stuff? 13:45 hdl Did tumer commit his stuff ? 13:44 kados hdl: thanks 13:44 hdl kados : email sent. 13:28 hdl I got it 13:28 kados Q is quote names 13:28 kados hdl: -cnQ are important too 13:27 hdl yes 13:27 kados hdl: you'll mail me the file? 13:19 hdl yes 13:19 hdl -d does it. 13:19 kados -d|--no-data 13:19 hdl I found 13:19 kados add -d 13:19 hdl OK. 13:18 toins hum... ok... 13:18 kados hdl: ahh, sorry, that was MJ's syntax 13:18 kados toins: I'm not sure, he had a baby :-) 13:18 toins kados: do you know if chris catalfo will be back soon ? 13:15 hdl kados : LANG=C mysqldump -cnQ koha >kohastructure.sql exports data too. 12:59 kados hdl: LANG=C mysqldump -cnQ koha >kohastructure.sql 12:59 kados hdl: just a reminder, when you get a chance, send me the sql dump 12:58 kados yea, I thought Koha.pm had a bunch of get* routines that could be used 12:57 hdl The new way is to get codes and descriptions and pass it to TMPL LOOPs. 12:56 kados hdl: I thought we had created a new way to do most of the lists 12:56 hdl ok. 12:56 kados hdl: yes 12:53 jaron dublin core, marcxml, mods 12:52 jaron lloyd: it can also export to many different formats 12:52 jaron lloyd: there should be a csv feature 12:51 lloyd mmm marcedit can still only export to marc format right? 12:44 hdl Can I modify it ? 12:44 hdl This is not translatable. 12:44 hdl kados : some of our scripts make use of CGI::ScrollingList 12:43 hdl This is not the same. 12:43 hdl Do they want to edit Authors names ? 12:43 owen Hi 12:42 kados morning owen 12:42 dewey OK, owen. 12:42 owen dewey: MARCEdit is http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 12:42 hdl Do they want to have a list. 12:42 kados lloyd: google is your friend 12:42 hdl But I advise you to ask ppl to tell you more about the process they want to do. 12:41 dewey it has been said that url is http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/ 12:41 lloyd url? 12:41 jaron that's right MARCEdit would make it easier. 12:41 hdl you should 12:41 lloyd no 12:41 kados lloyd: have you tried MARCEdit? 12:41 kados trying to manipulate MARC in Excell is a mistake 12:41 jaron lloyd: hdl's correct 12:40 hdl This seems iso2709 12:40 hdl OK. 12:40 lloyd snippet : of autonomy in long-term care / b/ cCharles W. Lidz, Lynn Fischer, Robert M. Arnold aOxford : bOxford University Press, c1992 a(240)p c24cm a$35.00 : CIP entry (Dec.) aUEANN aOld age homes -- zUnited States aNursing home patients -- zUnited States aAutonomy (Psychology) in old age aAged -- xLong term care. 1 aArnold, Robert M., d1957- 1 aFischer, Lynn. a26 930208 lw 160505 00694nam 2200229l B45 12:40 hdl lloyd: you should ask your employer which information they want to process. 12:39 jaron open it up in a text editor 12:39 lloyd Format : god knows, how do I tell 12:39 lloyd Goal : they just want there records readable in excel so they can manipulate the data 12:38 jaron and the records on the CD are in text format or MARC transmission format? 12:37 jaron lloyd: what's the end goal? 12:37 lloyd argh.. i've got this CD on my desk with the file on saying they want it in csv, thats all the info i've got :/ 12:36 lloyd i've got the marc as a text file atm 12:36 dewey ...but mason is flying to australa tomorrow :(... 12:36 toins dewey: mason is http://masonhq.com 12:35 toins Mason is excellent !!! 12:35 jaron lloyd: hdl's correct that the whole record wouldn't make much sense. 12:35 hdl Mason ???? what's up ?? 12:34 hdl marcdump is good for that. 12:34 hdl You should consider dump marc record to a text file. 12:34 hdl It would be a mess to put only values in csv. 12:33 lloyd all fields 12:32 jaron do you want a lot of the record in the file or just a few fields? 12:32 lloyd well... i was hoping there was already something I could use 12:30 jaron not an answer you like? :) 12:30 jaron perl, ruby, python, java--any of those would work. 12:30 lloyd meh 12:29 jaron lloyd: write a little script 12:29 lloyd mmm I've got a file with a bunch of marc records in it... whats the best (quickest) way to convert it to a csv? 12:12 hdl but this is TOO far away. 12:12 hdl With xml-lang set to fr or en or spanish... 12:11 hdl I thought that eventually, we should come to xml files that would contain default frameworks. 12:11 hdl And make as you suggested. 12:10 hdl maybe we should not too much anticipate the future. 12:10 hdl definitley in data/en/ 12:09 kados so where shall I put the English unimarc frameworks? 12:09 hdl anyway, unimarc along with usmarc in same zebra base is already possible. 12:09 kados it's a neat idea 12:09 hdl I thought zebra server answering both usmarc and unimarc. 12:08 kados same db? 12:08 kados you mean run unimarc along usmarc? 12:08 hdl kados : this will raise problems when we have *MARC gateways ... 12:07 kados ? 12:07 kados etc. 12:07 kados installer/data/en/unimarc/mandatory 12:07 kados installer/data/en/usmarc/mandatory 12:07 kados and we can put frameworks as: 12:07 kados the installer should maybe ask about MARC flavor after language? 12:06 kados hdl: I think they should be an option for the web installer, but they don't fit into our taxonomy 12:06 kados hdl: Robi Sturman has sent me UNIMARC English frameworks 12:05 kados hdl: also, I have another question 12:03 kados ok 12:03 hdl Can you wait a little bit ? 12:03 hdl paul's machine seems off. 12:02 kados ok 12:02 hdl and SAN is out of reach from outside. ask hpassini or btoumi. 12:01 hdl IPT I can. 12:01 kados SAN WP and IPT 12:01 hdl SAN is not up to date. 12:01 hdl or SAN WP and IPT ? 12:01 hdl you mean zebra and nozebra ? 12:00 kados LANG=C mysqldump -cnQ koha >kohastructure.sql 12:00 kados hdl: could you do mysqldump for me of the two production databases running 3.0? 12:00 kados hi :-) 12:00 hdl yep