Time Nick Message 11:04 Fallor at least there are no selinux alerts in syslog anymore 11:04 Fallor but that could be because of the remote Z39.50 server 11:02 Fallor Z39.50 search still gives internal server error 10:47 chris good idea 10:47 Fallor maybe that'll do the trick 10:46 Fallor I'll first try to set cgi-scripts to run without SELinux 10:45 chris right 10:45 Fallor I already have the contexts set correctly 10:45 Fallor nothing really useful in the above document 10:45 Fallor that's the last option then 10:44 chris http://osdir.com/ml/misc.koha/2005-01/msg00025.html <-- suggests disabling selinux for httpd 10:43 chris anything in there useful? 10:43 chris http://www.kohadocs.org/Installing_Koha_on_Fedora.html 10:40 Fallor i tried searching the net but without much luck 10:39 chris i think i saw a blog about this recently, lemme check if i can find it 10:38 chris hmm i cant remember how i got it to work, wish id written it down 10:38 Fallor and then there are the strange noises... ;D 10:37 Fallor it works just fine without SELinux 10:37 Fallor also a strange thing is that with SELinux koha tries to find value_builder directory from a wrong place 10:37 Fallor setsebool has absolutely no effect whatsoever 10:36 Fallor and that i should run "setsebool -P httpd_unified=1" to make addbiblio.pl working 10:36 chris yeah sometimes selinux is a little over the top 10:35 chris hmm 10:34 Fallor well selinux tells me that search.pl wants to access resolv.conf and suggests creating a local security policy for it 10:32 chris you getting any sort of useful error in the error logs? 10:31 chris been doing it for hmm nearly 8 years now hehe 10:31 chris yep 10:31 chris http://www.rangitikeilibrary.org.nz/ 10:31 Fallor but then you have a lot more experience than i do ;) 10:30 chris its been in production for hmm 1.5 years 10:30 chris yep 10:30 Fallor did you manage to get it working? 10:30 Fallor hmm 10:30 chris its all the 3rd party stuff thats the hardest to install 10:29 chris the Net::Z3950::Zoom module 10:29 chris probably the z3950 stuff 10:29 Fallor at least 10:29 Fallor and z3950 search 10:29 Fallor it seems to break addbiblio 10:29 Fallor same thing 10:28 chris ive installed on redhat 10:28 Fallor it's terrible :D 10:27 Fallor (CentOS) 10:27 Fallor have you ever installed Koha on SELinux server 10:08 Fallor hi chris 09:44 chris hi Fallor 09:09 dewey privet, Fallor 09:09 Fallor hi 02:10 chris night 02:10 jaron g'night 02:10 jaron in any case, that's enough for tonight. 02:07 jaron finally, I was able to insert (and delete) a record into a zebra database. Not sure if it's the correct one. Of course doesn't show up in the catalog, so who knows where it is. 00:59 jaron ok, I might just be outta luck until that's fixed 00:59 chris hmm dont think you can if the structure is broken 00:59 jaron I'm wanting to add biblios to the database but the marc structure is broken. any other way I can get biblios into the database? Already tried import into reservoir. 00:48 jaron well, let me see what I can do first... 00:47 chris hmm 00:45 jaron But I figured the database name was 'koha' but even after adding that to zebra-biblio.cfg I get an error saying the database is unavialable 00:44 jaron ok, copied and pasted biblioserver xml and s/biblioserver/publicserver/ and then restarted zebraserver and was allowed to connect. 00:32 jaron ok, let me give that a go and see what happens... 00:31 chris wont even 00:31 chris in that case u want :) 00:31 jaron actually I'm wanting to play with extended services :) 00:31 chris but u will anonymous access 00:31 chris yeah i reckon if copy what is set up for the biblioserver 00:29 jaron once I uncommented it, I was able to connect to the server but immediately disconnected. 00:29 chris hmm 2 secs ill just go look in my cvs checkout 00:28 jaron no, just the listen line for it 00:28 chris yep there should be a section in there already for the public one eh? 00:27 jaron ok, if I mimic what was done for biblios I should be good? 00:27 chris that should be just a matter of editing the koha.xml file 00:27 jaron yes 00:26 chris ahh zebra? 00:26 jaron 3 00:26 chris i must admit i havent tried in ages 00:26 chris for 2.2? 00:26 jaron anyone around know how to get the public facing z39.50 zebra server working? 23:26 kados heh 23:25 chris called my bluff :) 23:25 chris sweet 23:25 kados I'll add them to bugzilla soon 23:25 kados I've been making a list 23:13 chris i can do a full koha day on 3.0 bugs next week, if someone has reported a bunch :) 23:08 kados true 23:08 chris it doesnt have to work for everything yet 23:08 kados I'm hoping MJ can make one that works for other platforms 23:08 chris thats the thing with a development release 23:08 kados the package works great for debian 23:08 kados yea 23:08 chris being used by more ppl, and getting bugs reported is the only way they are going to get fixed 23:07 chris i think getting the development release (which your package pretty much is) 23:07 chris yep 23:07 kados it's right buggy atm :-) 23:06 kados getting enough of the issues resolved before the scheduled release is gonna be a challenge 23:06 kados the hardest one is gonna be 3.0 itself 23:06 chris development its pretty clear we dont expect you to use it in production 23:06 kados space them out by two months 23:05 chris thats what id do 23:05 kados development, testing, stable 23:05 kados or ... 23:05 kados what about pre-alpha, alpha, stable? 23:05 chris google has runied beta :) 23:05 kados so you think naming it beta is a mistake? 23:03 chris yep thats the main reason i wanted a developer release, more ppl looking at it faster bugs are found 23:02 kados figure might as well have more eyes on that 22:57 chris cya 22:57 JYL57 Ok see you guys and have a nice day ! 22:56 kados JYL57++ 22:55 JYL57 Ok kados, downloading... Will give it a try in the next few days and will keep you informed ! thanks ! 22:53 kados and let me know how it works! 22:52 kados follow the README.txt in the archive 22:52 kados http://kados.org/stuff/koha_zoom_0.4.tar.gz 22:52 JYL57 Super ! I'm using etch since a few hours... :-) 22:51 kados JYL57: the package I have is built for debian sarge or etch 22:49 JYL57 The link from 2.2 to 3.0 doesn't talk about MARC specificities ?! 22:47 JYL57 Or maybe you can lead me to the proper URL ? 22:46 JYL57 Do you want my email ? 22:46 JYL57 Eclipse fan 22:46 kados workbench? 22:45 JYL57 well Ok kados, I've not yet installed any workbench so 22:45 kados JYL57: if you want to try out 3.0 I can give you a package 22:42 chris latest cvs 22:41 JYL57 Is there any 3.0 archive or should I use the last CVS ? 22:41 JYL57 ok, I can manage that 22:40 chris yep, if they have their own database each 22:40 JYL57 both versions will coexist without trouble ?! 22:40 chris ahh in that case yep 22:40 chris just in case i made a mistake and killed the database 22:40 JYL57 nope I was thinking on using my test box 22:39 chris if it was in production i wouldnt 22:39 JYL57 Is it sensible to install both versions 2.2.9 (or 10) and another 3.0 on the same box ?! 22:38 JYL57 But I'm still very curious and would like to see the new functions... 22:37 JYL57 Well we run a public library with koha in production so I will not break anything soon... 22:36 chris then wait for a full 3.0 release ... unless you want to play around and expect to find some things broken 22:36 kados JYL57: you planning to install this for a production environment? 22:36 kados me too 22:35 kados yea 22:35 chris upgrade to that 22:35 chris if i was you, i would wait for 2.2.10 22:35 JYL57 Well, I'm still wondering what to choose... 22:34 chris but i wouldnt do it on a production machine :) 22:34 chris (if you have a test box and want to try 3.0 .. you can try following this http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30) 22:34 JYL57 From Metz, north East France 22:33 JYL57 Paul would release a 2.2.10 before the 3.0 22:33 kados from even :-) 22:33 kados JYL57: where ya fron? 22:33 kados hiya JYL57 22:33 JYL57 hey kados 22:33 kados 2.2.10 should correct that 22:33 chris its all good 22:33 chris cvs branch 22:33 kados it is in CVS 22:33 chris nope its all in cvs, but didnt make it in the 2.2.9 release if you get the code from the rel_2_2 22:32 kados might not be in the release itself 22:32 JYL57 And mysql 5 is correctly supported ? 22:31 JYL57 I'm using my test box so I can't check it right now 22:31 chris right 2.2.9 will have a bunch of bugfixes, and a couple of new features 22:31 JYL57 Well not sure 2.2.4 maybe 22:31 chris 2.2.? 22:31 JYL57 2.2 22:30 chris what version are you running now? 22:30 chris there should be a beta release of that in the next couple of weeks 22:30 JYL57 Should be out soon or still time to install a 2.2.9 22:30 JYL57 What about the long wished 3.0 version ?! 22:29 JYL57 It's been a while now and I'm in mood to upgrade my koha version 22:29 JYL57 Hi Chris 22:29 chris hi 22:28 JYL57 Hi koha world 21:02 kados sweet 21:01 kados hey chris 20:59 chris morning 17:16 martinmorris cheers 17:11 jaron I'd add that info to your bug report 17:11 jaron or possibly ones that you add manually are not correct? 17:11 martinmorris 100$9 was also populated with the correct biblio number 17:11 martinmorris just a thought 17:11 martinmorris perhaps there's a field in the name authority i've not been adding 17:10 martinmorris interestingly, on that problem, i've just imported a name authority from LOC, linked it to a biblio, and now it's correctly reporting that 1 biblio is usign the authority 17:00 jaron ok 16:58 martinmorris the problem was that bulkauthimport.pl expected an NP thesaurus, i had to modify it to PN (Personaj Nomoj) after which it worked like a treat 16:58 jaron last I used it I had to modify the script 16:58 jaron what was your solution? 16:57 martinmorris ignore me, solved it :) 16:50 martinmorris can't see an option for it but mine fails when i try to import an authority 16:50 martinmorris one other question - when using bulkauthimport.pl - do i need to specify into which thesaurus? 16:38 martinmorris thanks paul 16:38 paul_away bye & good problem hunting martinmorris 16:38 paul_away time to leave for frenchies... 16:38 martinmorris :) 16:38 jaron dunno 16:37 martinmorris 100$9 doesn't need mentioning in the marc structure of my authorities does it? 16:35 martinmorris yep, it's empty 16:34 martinmorris assume it'll be empty but will see 16:34 jaron might help 16:34 paul good idea 16:34 martinmorris perhaps unhide it and see what it loosk like in a biblio? 16:34 paul it's OK 16:34 martinmorris and the two texts are defined, and that's it 16:34 martinmorris it's hidden (-5) 16:33 martinmorris $9 has very little configured 16:33 paul sounds OK 16:33 martinmorris and with a Koha link to biblio.author 16:33 martinmorris i have my 100$a connected to my PN thesaurus, which is my personal names authority list 16:32 paul if another subfield is "connected" to authorities, then the $9 is automatically managed for this field 16:32 paul just define it. 16:32 paul nope, it's automatic 16:31 martinmorris is $9 meant to be linked to something? 16:30 martinmorris npl 16:30 paul npl templates ? or default ones ? 16:30 martinmorris yes 16:30 paul which koha version are u using ? 2.2.9 ? 16:30 martinmorris well, it's in the marc structure 16:29 paul add it pls 16:29 paul then it can't work... 16:29 martinmorris there's definitely no subfield 9 16:29 paul how is $9 defined ? 16:29 martinmorris yep, i'm there 16:29 paul then check your framework, field 100, subfields. 16:29 jaron ls 16:29 martinmorris noted :) 16:28 paul or $KOHA/scripts/dumpmarc -f file.mrc ;-) 16:28 martinmorris right, there's no 100$9 field in there 16:28 martinmorris ah, amazing :) 16:28 jaron and that'll pretty print it to screen 16:28 jaron yaz-marcdump file.mrc 16:28 jaron you can also try: 16:28 jaron sure 16:27 martinmorris i can send it over? 16:27 martinmorris i'm trying to dump it using a perl script but it's being difficult 16:25 jaron anything? 16:16 martinmorris 'k 16:16 jaron brb 16:15 martinmorris ok will do 16:14 jaron try exporting the record first and see if you see the 100$9 then. 16:14 martinmorris of my 100$9 and the authority popup? 16:14 martinmorris i can send a screen shot if that would help? 16:14 jaron it should be a hidden field in your framework so you might not see it there. 16:13 martinmorris i can't see an authority number anywhere 16:12 martinmorris ok, i've got the pop-up with the name authority in now... 16:11 jaron I wonder if you view the complete record (or export it and look at it) the $9 field should have something in it 16:11 martinmorris i don't remember seeing that must admit 16:11 paul and the authid is reported on $9 16:11 martinmorris let me do that now and check 16:11 paul when you click on the ..., then select an authority, the authority (author name, surname, ...) is reported. 16:10 martinmorris i'm sure the concept is the same paul, thanks for your help 16:10 martinmorris what do you mean, when i report the authority? is that when i link it to the biblio? 16:10 paul when you report the authority, so you see that it is filled with a number ? 16:10 jaron no. 16:10 martinmorris do i put 100a in the Link box? 16:09 martinmorris ok, how can i check it's set up properly? 16:08 martinmorris let me check it's set up properly 16:08 paul because it's the $9, that is filled with the authid, that is used to calculate the # biblios 16:08 martinmorris (hello) 16:08 martinmorris it was there already paul 16:08 martinmorris yes I do 16:08 martinmorris i set it up so that when i go into the biblio - there are three dots (...) after the 100a field 16:07 paul ? 16:07 paul do yo uhave a $9 (hello martinmorris) 16:07 martinmorris absolutely 16:07 jaron So you have definitely linked that authority record to a biblio? 16:06 martinmorris what about the 0 biblios thing? 16:06 martinmorris that would be a shame if it didn't 16:06 martinmorris yeah good thanks 16:06 jaron and you? 16:05 jaron_away fine. 16:05 jaron_away I'm not certain that Koha 2.2 does see and see also references. 16:05 martinmorris how you? 16:05 martinmorris hi jaron 16:05 jaron_away martinmorris: you still there? 15:55 martinmorris it's bug id #1370 if anybody sees this, ta 15:55 martinmorris just wondering if any authority experts are around so I can throw the question at them? :) 15:55 martinmorris i've been asking a question about name authorities in koha few times, put in a bug request yesterdy 15:54 martinmorris afternoon all 15:40 paul after "born a 4th of july", we have now "full a 4th of july" 15:10 jaron_away so it might be difficult to get a hold of the americans today. 15:09 jaron_away paul: remember that today the americans--at least the red blooded ones--are drinking beer, eating bbq meats and setting off little explosions and rockets. 14:39 paul kados around ? mason seems to be able to commit. So am I the only one with those messages ? 14:38 paul No space left on device 14:38 paul cannot open z3950_search.pl 14:38 paul seems nongnu disks are full : impossible to update or commit anything : 13:32 jaron yeah, I'm trying to incorporate more of a "when you touch it, deal with it" approach 13:32 kados ok, it's uninstalled :-) 13:32 kados or they just get put off 13:32 kados lately I find it's best to do things when I think of them 13:31 kados that's cool 13:30 jaron that's ok. i'm still waiting to hear from russel. 13:30 jaron good morning 13:30 kados morning all