Time Nick Message 12:00 hdl hi 12:00 dewey hi, hdl 15:22 paul kados around ? 15:24 kados hi paul 15:31 hdl hi kados 15:31 kados hi hdl 15:32 paul kados : a zebra question : 15:32 paul I have some problems I don't remember having before... 15:32 paul I have : 15:32 paul - zebra 2.0.12 15:32 paul - record.abs containing : 15:32 paul melm 200$a title:w,title:p,title:s 15:33 paul melm 606 subject-heading,subject-heading:p 15:33 paul searching for a word in the title DON'T WORK 15:33 paul searching for a word in subject WORK 15:33 paul (knowing that I do a kw search everytime) 15:33 paul it seems that melm 200$f don't work where 606 works 15:34 kados huh? 15:34 paul and it's the same for all my melm FFF$S and FFF lines 15:34 kados wow, that's really strange 15:34 kados it should only happen with 15:34 kados 200$a 15:34 kados 200 15:34 kados ie, the same tag 15:34 kados but not for other tags! 15:34 paul ??? 15:35 paul http://o9.bureau.paulpoulain.com/ui/main.xul 15:35 paul search for "réforme". you'll find 5 answers, including : 15:35 kados 0 results 15:35 paul retry 15:35 kados (still no leaders or fixed fields in opencataloger? 15:36 kados ok, 5 results 15:36 paul (zebra was down, now it's up) 15:36 paul so, search for "réforme" => 5 answers including "Mémoires historiques" 15:36 paul search for "Mémoires" => no answers ! 15:36 kados ok 15:37 kados right 15:37 kados very strange 15:39 kados paul: do you have plans to add fixed fields and leader to opencataloger? 15:39 paul they are already here. fixed fields sure & leader I have to test, but if they are not, it's a bug. 15:39 kados ahh, but no plugin for fixed fields, eh? 15:40 paul which ones ? 15:40 kados or leader 15:40 kados any? 15:40 paul 100 in unimarc is a ff 15:40 paul and you can see that there is a plugin 15:40 paul 100 $a => look at the small ... 15:40 paul (on the right) 15:40 paul (should work with MARC21 plugins as well) 15:41 paul for leader, I'll ask toins, because it seems it don't work. but I asked him and we spoke of this. So they should just be hidden somewhere ;-) 15:41 kados I don't understand 15:41 kados how do I go from results to edit? 15:42 kados also, what if I have content that contains a $? 15:42 paul clic on the small image on the right of the entry 15:42 kados for instance, often in MARC21 we have $21.00 15:42 paul clic on the small image on the right of the result entry 15:42 kados for money 15:42 kados ahh, I see 15:42 paul I don't think we manage $ as USD, you're right :-( 15:43 kados there are more useful characters for subfield designation IIRC 15:43 kados ‡ for instance 15:43 kados I think that's becoming the convention 15:43 paul how do you do this char on a french keyboard... 15:44 kados you use javascript to have an escape sequence to create it 15:44 kados something like CTRL-s or something 15:44 kados the idea being, don't use a character that is also content 15:45 paul our "problem" is that $ is never a content in France ;-) 15:45 kados otherwise, it could be a problem if you have content with that character 15:45 kados it is valid content 15:45 kados even in France :-) 15:45 kados ‡ is not valid for MARC content (at least in MARC-8) 15:45 paul yes, but never needed. that's probably why nobody care using it as subfield separator. 15:46 paul (afaik for french libraries) 15:46 kados http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/2xx/245.shtm 15:47 kados OCLC seems to use ‡ 15:48 kados anyway 15:51 paul kados : which zebra/yas version do you use at NPL & other dev_week user ? 15:51 kados 2.0.12 at NPL 15:52 cm hi guys...looks like i have yaz 2.1.22 & zebra 1.3.44 15:52 paul hi cindy. quite old versions... 15:53 cm yeah...but they still work. ;) 15:53 hdl how do you call this sign ? 15:53 paul for sure ! 15:53 hdl ‡ 15:54 jaron ‡ is called a double dagger in English if that helps. 15:54 kados cm: IIRC, there is a update bug in zebra 1.3 that wasn't ever fixed except in 2.0 15:54 hdl ok. thanks. (It could help in lectures) 15:54 kados hdl: http://www.zvon.org/other/charSearch/PHP/search.php?request=2021&searchType=3 15:54 cm hi kados...what was the bug? 15:55 kados cm: well, we never were able to figure out what triggered it, but it would cause the index to get corrupted 15:55 cm not good... 15:55 kados cm: and updates after that would fail, necessitating a re-index 15:56 cm that might explain some things. 15:56 kados cm: 2.0's been running stably for a while (though paul may have discovered a bug today) 15:56 cm i could try it out on my test server first. 15:56 kados while being several months with no crashes 15:56 cm that's good. 15:56 kados there are a couple minor changes to make to the config files 15:56 kados lemme find a reference 15:56 cm ok. 15:57 kados http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/installation-upgrade.tkl?skin=print 15:57 cm thanks. 15:57 kados after you upgrade, change the config files, and re-index 15:57 kados should be good to go 15:58 kados (except note paul's problem might be an issue with the most recent version) 15:58 kados paul: I'd suggest you write a mail to the zebralist asking if it's a bug 15:58 paul I don't think so, because I have 2.0.12 as you 15:58 kados paul: it sounds like a bug to me 15:58 kados ahh 15:58 paul but i'm writing a mail to zebralist anyway 15:58 kados *nod* 16:00 cm i might wait until next week...we're finally migrating this weekend, and i want to have time to test before upgrading. 16:00 paul cm is wise... 16:00 cm :) 17:15 kados cm: still there? 17:15 dewey well, there is no spoon 17:15 kados cm: I'd recommend sending that announcement to the code4lib, perld4lib, web4lib, ngc4lib lists as well 17:32 cm hey kados, i'm back. 17:33 cm i sent it to web4lib & oss4lib; i'm not on the other ones. 17:35 kados cm: any response yet? 17:36 cm i haven't heard anything. 17:36 kados cm: did anyone at the wellington public library contact you yet? 17:36 kados cm: they said they were planning a site visit to meadville 17:36 cm we've had 6 responses on the survey so far. 17:36 kados ahh, great! 17:37 jaron cm: perl4lib would be a good one for anyone running a Koha installation to be on. When Perl modules used by Koha and Evergreen get fixes it seems to get posted to perl4lib. 17:37 kados jaron: yep 17:37 cm wellington....i don't think so. 17:37 cm thanks jaron. 17:37 cm i'll have to subscribe & post it. 17:47 cm kados, where is wellington? maybe they contacted johnb. 17:49 kados wellington new zealand? 17:49 kados ahh, right 17:49 kados it's not wellington 17:49 kados worthington :-) 17:50 kados worthington is in ohio 17:50 kados worthingtonlibraries.org 18:07 cm you never know, there *could* be a wellington, ohio. ;) 18:08 owen Google says yes :) 18:08 cm yay google. ;) 18:12 cm anyway, i think they might have contacted john. i'm pretty sure he said *somebody* had contacted him about visiting us. 18:13 cm don't remember who though. all my brain cells are directed towards migration, lately. :P 20:12 johnb Kados you around? 20:13 kados johnb: yep 20:13 kados johnb: what's up? 20:14 johnb Kados: The Ashtabual County Library System is coming here for a site viisit 20:14 johnb Kados sorry Ashtabula 20:14 kados johnb: ahh, right, maybe that was the group 20:14 kados there are too many to remember them all :-) 20:14 johnb I was told six libraries 20:14 johnb I am also talking to the the Libraries in Washington County PA next week 20:14 dewey okay, johnb. 20:14 kados johnb: cool 20:15 johnb People are starting to call ne now:) 20:15 kados hehe, excellent! 20:15 johnb I will try to get a web page up by the end of the week on the users group meeting 20:16 kados johnb++ 20:59 chris morning 07:12 toins hi all 11:49 kyle hey all, to anybody up at this hour ; ) 11:52 paul hello kyle 11:53 paul in France, it's almost 2PM 11:53 kyle hello. 11:53 paul ppl are back from lunch 11:53 kyle heh, here it's so early that I'm the only one at the library.