Time  Nick  Message
12:33 tumer paul:online?
12:48 hdl   hi tumer
12:48 tumer hi hdl
12:49 tumer i thought you or paul might be interested in my recent (today) commit
12:49 paul  hi tumer
12:49 tumer it speeds up marcdetail and addbiblio by 400%
12:49 paul  why could be be specifically interested ?
12:49 paul  wow !!!!
12:50 paul  so, i'm heavily interested ;-)
12:50 tumer well marcgettagslib reads 9000 lines all the time while we only use abou 100
12:51 hdl   CHEEEERS.
12:51 toins tumer:++
12:51 hdl   Congratulations.
12:51 dewey congratulations are in order i hear owen
12:51 tumer so i added a flag to it so it only reads used ones. mysql is very fast with that
12:51 tumer my bencharc with marcdetail jumped to 8.9/sec from 2.2/sec
12:52 tumer you have to check and modify it to head
13:37 rch   paul / hdl ?
13:37 paul  hhi rch
13:37 paul  nice to read you.
13:38 rch   goodmorning
13:39 rch   have a question for you, if you've got a moment
13:39 paul  yes, if you have a moment for me as well ;-)
13:39 rch   can you explain differenct/status of old_ and ! old_ subs in Bull.pm rel_2_2 ?
13:40 rch   s/differenct/difference/
13:40 paul  which ones ?
13:40 paul  (subs)
13:41 rch   well, theres serialschangestatus and old_serialschangestatus
13:41 rch   but the 'old
13:42 rch   one looks 'newer'
13:43 paul  I'm not sure, but I think old_xxx is something of someone from liblime.
13:43 paul  ok, it's someone who was not at liblime when he wrote this ;-=)
13:43 paul  I check
13:44 paul  mmm... can't find it
13:45 paul  hdl : do you know who introduced old_xxx subs in rel_2_2 CVS ?
13:45 hdl   no.
13:45 paul  i think it was bob or someone from katipo.
13:46 rch   yeah, i was looking for a big +400 lines or some such in cvs history, but i don't see it.
13:48 rch   oh, ok, i see it.
13:48 paul  rch : I confirm, bob, nov, 24, 2006 commit
13:48 rch   right.
13:48 paul  (that's why 2.2.8 don't use this branch, to avoid such surprises...)
13:49 paul  my question now ?
13:49 paul  dewey : seen kados
13:49 dewey kados was last seen on #koha 6 days, 18 hours, 41 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: I'll try to resolve it today [Tue Apr 17 07:08:01 2007]
13:51 rch   yep
13:52 paul  we are waiting for some answers & directions from our beloved release manager, and he seems to have disappeared. Our list includes YUI directions, ggsoc mail, and some (few) other things. do you know when he will be back and have some time to spend for us ?
13:54 rch   kados, i think, will be largely afk for most of this week, as he's travelling.
13:55 paul  :-(
13:55 paul  so no directions for YUI before 1 more week...
13:55 paul  that's a real shame...
13:55 paul  we also should speak of next rel_2_2 release
13:55 paul  and so many other things
13:57 rch   right - as for yui, i think there is members ready to commit
13:57 paul  i'm afraid that recent hdl commit to clean members.pm will make some conflicts.
13:58 paul  shame on me to have forgotten that we were waiting for some kados commit...
13:58 rch   ah, likely.
13:58 paul  but a commit for members is all i'm waiting for. and kados promised it to me 2-3 weeks ago.
13:59 rch   but i think the work is on hold right now, until he returns
13:59 paul  could I know where he is/was ? (just curious)
13:59 rch   he's in NYC atm.
14:01 rch   yes, we spend too much time on travel
14:01 rch   but we like it big over here :)
14:01 paul  liblime was looking to hire a sales guy.
14:01 paul  do you have one now ?
14:03 rch   yes, he's working out of southeastern US.
15:40 kyle  hey all
15:42 hdl   hi kyle
15:47 kyle  I just added a new module for handling Rotating Collections, along with npl templates for it and the previously commited ClubsAndServices, all in dev_week of course
15:48 kyle  I'd welcome any feedback from everyone.
15:54 owen  Hi kyle, what's the workflow like?
15:55 kyle  for which module?
15:56 owen  sorry--Rotating Collections
15:56 kyle  Does anyone know if there is a quick way to look up and itemnumber by barcode?
15:56 kyle  For rotating collections, you create a Collection, then add items to that collection.
15:57 kyle  Then, you can set the library where that collection *should* be using the Transfer link.
15:57 owen  Re: itemnumber by barcode, there's not AFAIK
15:58 kyle  After that, if the item shows up at a different library, upon return, a message will appear telling the librarian that the item is part of a collection and the item should be transferred to the library set on the RotatingCollections::Transfer screen.
15:59 owen  Sounds really nice
16:00 kyle  Thanks, I realized that we for rotating collections, we can know what library 'owns' and item, what library 'has' the item, but not what library 'should have' the item.
16:01 hdl   kyle why do clubs and services donot require admin priv ?
16:02 kyle  I couldn't decide *what* parts of clubs and services shouldn't have them. I know that the main page and the enroll page should be available to everyone, but I suppose the create archetype and create club/service pages should require admin
16:04 kyle  what do you think?
16:05 kyle  also, I was wondering if some library systems have system-wide clubs, or if each branch has separate reading clubs
16:05 hdl   I think Clubs ans services have to be displayed for a user.
16:05 hdl   But he should/could have to ask a librarian to get into a new club.
16:06 kyle  I think ClubsAndServices might need to have some extra code for the IndependentBranches setting.
16:06 hdl   (depending on a syspref)
16:07 kyle  Each club or service has a publicEnrollment field. If it is 0, a librarian must enroll a borrower in said club/service
16:07 kyle  But if it is 1 (true), I would like to add a section to the OPAC to list publicly enrollable clubs and services so the patron can enroll themselves.
16:08 hdl   Good.
16:08 kyle  I did it this way so that if the library were to offer say an e-mail list that sends the borrower a weekly e-mail of new sci-books, then they can go to the OPAC and add themselves to the mailing list.
16:09 kyle  I'm going to write a generic list mailer that will send bulk e-mails of new items based on the items itemtype and/or callnumber
16:10 kyle  That way, we have a Mailing List archetype, with itemtype and callnumber fields, and we can create any number of mailing lists under it for Sci-Fi, Western, DVD, or whatever you can think of.
16:10 hdl   based on overdus ?
16:10 kyle  hdl: I don't understand.
16:10 hdl   There is a letter.pm in rel_3_0..
16:10 hdl   you can use it.
16:11 kyle  What does it do?
16:11 hdl   I was wondering if your generic mailer would rely on the script overdues.
16:11 hdl   It is a module that was designed to help librarian with information management.
16:11 kyle  I've never even looked at the overdues script. Would you reccomend I use that as a starting point?
16:12 hdl   It would be better to try and use Letter.pm ...
16:12 hdl   But since it is not in rel_2_2 ...
16:12 kyle  Do you think I can backport Letter.pm to dev_week?
16:14 hdl   then you would have to create new tables.
16:14 hdl   If it is allowed in dev_week, then do.
16:15 hdl   Otherwise, look at overdue.pl in misc.
16:15 kyle  maybe I'll roll a quick and dirty one now, and rewrite it using Letter.pm when we switch to 3.0
16:29 rch   paul / hdl : what's the status of code cleaning for accounts, overdues, fines in rel3?
16:29 paul  accounts = I won't do any thing, as I don't know well enough how it works
16:30 paul  overdues & circulation = some commits to come
16:30 paul  (& a mail to koha-devel)
16:30 paul  then, i'll start heavy testing & koha 3.0NZ
16:30 rch    i have some work to do on fines in next 2 weeks-
16:31 rch   i'll work on dev_week, but i'd like to do it so it's easy to port to rel_3.
16:31 paul  I don't think so.
16:31 paul  it will have to be manual i'm afraid
16:31 paul  (many sub renamed & moved
16:31 paul  but maybe diff is better as i think ;-)
16:32 rch   yes, well i may use rel3 to start rather than dev_week, depending on state
16:33 rch   when do you expect to finish on overdues?
16:33 paul  I made a mistake, and have to rollback some things
16:33 paul  but i'm tuning & re-reading what I did
16:33 paul  otherwise, it's done
16:34 rch   so all renames & moves are done?
16:35 paul  on Overdues.pm I did nothing. but on Reserves/Circ, yes, it's done
16:35 paul  (on Overdues.pm, naming convention was OK)
16:35 paul  Accounts.pm is really ... un-readable for me
16:45 rch   yes, lots of strange code in that one :)
16:47 paul  I think chris should investigate that one. as it's a koha 1.0 module, that has almost not be changed iirc
19:59 tnb   owen: you there?
20:00 owen  Yes
20:00 tnb   did NPL do away with the Book Bag?
20:00 tnb   (can you remind me... I seem to recall a decision of that sort)
20:00 owen  Yeah. 1. Hardly anyone liked it. 2. It was broken for a long time after we switched to dev_week.
20:01 tnb   Right.  Ok , that's what I thought :)
20:01 tnb   thanks
20:01 tnb   also, FYI, there is apparently some weirdness in IE7
20:01 tnb   on the NPL homepage (we are doing some testing and happened to notice
20:02 tnb   in case you didn't already know
20:02 owen  You're talking about the library home page, rather than the OPAC?
20:02 tnb   yep
20:02 owen  Yeah, I'm trying to pretend it's not there until the new site comes online ;)
20:02 tnb   :) Good plan :)
20:46 chris morning
07:01 atol  Hi
07:02 atol  I'd like to run some tests with Koha on a shared webserver.
07:02 atol  PHP: 4.1.2
07:02 atol  MySQL: 3.23.58
07:02 atol  Perl: 5.6.1
07:02 atol  Python: 1.5.2
07:02 atol  Java: 1.3.1
07:02 atol  Does that suffice as system requirements?
07:09 atol  Mmm, not quite sure this works ;-)
07:20 atol  Are there any active members at the moment?
08:31 slef  hi all.  Should I direct "Date problems adding new members" to bugs.koha?
08:49 hdl   slef : which version is it ?
08:49 hdl   2.2.8 ?
08:50 hdl   or dev_week ?
08:50 dewey dev_week is rel_2_2 with zebra ... ie, same API as rel_2_2
08:50 slef  2.2.8 - see koha.lists
08:51 hdl   I saw.
08:53 hdl   bugs. but should be fixed now
08:53 hdl   I am checking.
08:54 slef  thanks
08:55 hdl   yes.
09:00 hdl   bug fixed in CVS.
09:04 slef  in rel_2_2?
09:05 slef  which file fixed it?
09:08 hdl   yes.
09:08 hdl   C4::Date
09:12 hdl   and hav a look at diffs of memberentry.pl
09:41 slef  thanks
09:41 slef  I'll email a patch if no-one beats me to it
09:41 slef  along with a link to my patch instructions