Time Nick Message 13:25 owen kados, you around? 13:43 hdl kados ? 13:43 dewey kados is helping us LibLime folk with something at the moment 13:43 thd dewey: do you know where kados is at every moment? 13:43 dewey thd: bugger all, i dunno 13:51 kados kados? 13:51 dewey you are helping us LibLime folk with something at the moment 13:51 kados hehe 13:51 kados dewey: no kados is busy 13:51 dewey OK, kados. 13:51 kados :-) 13:51 kados hdl: what's up? 13:52 hdl hi busy. 13:52 kados hehe 13:52 kados not really today 13:52 hdl I was working on installer (at last.) 13:52 kados ahh, great! 13:52 hdl 1st : 13:52 hdl adding syspref Version. 13:53 kados hdl++ 13:53 hdl (But it will be in updatedatabase) 13:53 kados (and in sql defs I hope?) 13:53 hdl And devs should consider upgrading it on each release. 13:54 hdl kados : not yet. 13:54 kados ahh, I see 13:54 hdl But shoudl also. 13:54 paul hello kados & al 13:54 hdl Two questions : Do you want to redirect opac to install page when not web installer is not processed? 13:55 hdl hi paul 13:55 paul kados: if you're not that busy, feel free to give us some news of YUI ? 13:55 hdl paul +++ 13:55 kados sure 13:55 paul I should commit a HUGE circualtion commit before leaving. 13:55 kados first I will say, ++ on your email 13:55 kados I just read it 13:55 paul you can answer as well ;-) 13:55 kados I will shortly :-) 13:55 kados regarding YUI ... 13:56 kados ryan and I have spent much time analysing Koha from a usability standpoint 13:56 kados and we have found that most functions can be broken down into several catagories: 13:56 kados upper-level nav (cataloging, circulation, administration, etc.) 13:56 kados (to go to each major module) 13:57 kados 'actions' such as 'create new borrower', 'delete borrower' 13:58 hdl second : what could we do to make installer more version aware that is : A version 3.0 is installed and we have here version 3.1 so lets do 3.0 to 3.1 ... 13:58 kados 'views' such as simple / detail / fines, etc. 13:58 kados hdl++ 13:59 kados hdl: yes, that's a great idea 13:59 kados paul: the final type is 'sub-nav' elements that are 'places' within each upper-level nav 14:00 kados what we are doing is breaking down every 'link' or 'button' in Koha and categorizing it into that scheme 14:01 kados and that will make the process of building the interface quite simple 14:01 kados anyway ... I should go to the office now 14:01 hdl (sorry to disturb... great idea but little thoughts about how to realize with the current structure.) 14:01 kados hdl: yui makes it quite simple to realize 14:02 hdl are you planning to commit members soon ? 14:02 kados yes 14:02 kados it has undergone two revisions 14:02 kados the first revision was before we had the 'breakthrough' 14:02 kados of how to best categorize 14:02 kados now that we understand that, I'm almost done with the second revision 14:02 kados (in fact, the same process happened with the search API) 14:03 hdl (I was talking about installer handling updating) 14:03 kados ahh 14:03 kados hehe 14:03 kados sorry 14:03 kados yes, I have an idea 14:03 kados the koha code should store a version string somewhere 14:03 kados as well as store in the db 14:03 kados so that the installer, if it finds a db, can check the version string, and then compare to the one in the code 14:04 kados (perhaps you can give it a path to the code for the upgrade when starting or sth) 14:04 kados hehe 14:04 kados what would be really cool, though probably not very platform independent 14:05 kados would be to allow someone to download the new version on their desktop 14:05 hdl yes. 14:05 kados then, to upgrade, go to installer, and click on 'upload new version' :-) 14:05 kados but it's not platform independent I'm afraid :/ 14:05 kados anyway, I should go to the office 14:05 kados I'll bbiab 14:05 hdl ok. 14:11 paul hdl : ton tel stp 15:16 slef hi all 15:17 slef Do you know who is working on the MARC record merger? 15:17 paul marc record merger ??? 15:17 paul (hi slef) 15:17 kados that's chris 15:17 kados hi slef 15:17 paul what is marc record merger ? 15:17 kados it allows you to combine two marc records into one 15:17 slef And did you all "enjoy" the "SirsiDynix Rome adopts Evergreen" news story on Sunday? 15:18 kados slef: I missed it 15:18 kados slef: where'd you see it? 15:18 slef 1mo, I'll see if it's still online 15:18 slef talis probably 15:18 slef http://www.daveyp.com/blog/index.php/archives/199/ 15:19 slef no, it's a academic librarian 15:20 slef Anyone know when chris will be around? 15:20 kados hehe, pretty funny 15:20 kados yea 15:20 kados in about 6 hours 15:20 kados it's about 3am in nz 15:21 slef paul is in Tapie-ville, but other than that ;-) 15:21 kados hehe 15:21 kados yea, it's confusing for us too 15:21 paul Tapie ville ??? 15:21 paul you're speaking of Bernard Tapie ? 15:22 slef paul: Marseille, no? 15:22 slef paul: aye 15:22 paul you really know him ? 15:22 paul wow... 15:22 paul kados, do you know who is that man as well ? 15:22 slef I don't know him, but he's famous/notorious 15:22 slef France's answer to Robert Maxwell 15:22 paul what kind of notorious ? 15:22 kados http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Tapie 15:24 paul wikipedia speaks of the white part as well of the dark one. good article &quite neutral 15:24 slef heh, Categories ... Incarcerated celebrities 15:24 slef yeah, looks like one of their better ones 02:53 mason . 08:13 slef hello again... chris: you alive? 11:29 chris hi slef 11:29 chris just got back from a wedding 11:29 chris what can i do for you?