Time Nick Message
21:53 thd tnb: thanks, I thought he might ignore email at the conference. However, I should not assume that my habbits are his.
21:49 tnb thd: probably an email would work. I'm sure he'll check it several times before tomorrow ;)
21:44 thd tnb: I wanted to ask him to collect some information from one of the presentations tomorrow
21:42 rch wrong window :) :wq
21:42 rch :q
21:41 tnb thd: yes, that is correct
21:32 thd tnb: I assume that he attending the conference and that there is no exhibition space. is that correct?
21:31 tnb you could try though
21:31 tnb thd: he has alot of meetings this evening, so he might have it off
21:28 thd tnb: Do you know if kados is accessable via cellphone at the code4lib conference?
21:28 tnb there's still alot of work to do on that front
21:27 tnb stats, etc
21:27 tnb thd: i've been sending out some emails to 'fill in the blanks' and get some of the information that isn't on the koha users wiki
21:26 tnb cool.
21:26 chris well i uploaded their circ data today, so i think they did tnb
21:26 tnb thd: libraries :)
21:26 thd tnb: do you mean librarians or patrons?
21:25 tnb :)
21:25 tnb i heard a rumor that toledo diocese were goign live today, did you hear that rumor?
21:25 chris i bet
21:25 tnb so that is quite a task ;)
21:25 tnb pretty good, i'm creating a profile of 'koha users'
21:24 chris tnb:good thanks, friday aftenoon .. hows things there?
21:24 thd thanks chris
21:24 chris thd: dunno her email address im afraid
21:24 tnb how's it going?
21:24 chris heya tina
21:24 tnb chris: hey :)
21:24 chris right
21:23 thd chris: Lea wanted me to send something via email but I kept losing the connection from my friend's apartment and I missed her request until she had logged off #koha.
21:21 chris someone from wales :)
21:21 thd chris: do you know who Lea is?
19:52 Lea wow i really have to go to bed. NN all. Thanks thd. I think that will be a great asset
19:50 Lea http://www.hero.ac.uk/uk/reference_and_subject_resources/resources/opacs_in_britain_and_ireland_obi/obi_university_of_cambridge4579.cfm
19:48 thd Lea: the rest should work fine except for Cambridge University as I already stated
19:46 thd Lea: University of London usually rejects the connection, the British Library requires a password for MARC records
19:44 Lea superb. I have asked you a Q in PM
19:44 thd Lea: at the bottom of the form is a list of targets
19:43 thd Lea: I have almost all known public UK Z39.50 servers in the client to which I gave you the link
19:42 Lea you were looking for american books?
19:42 Lea ah ok
19:39 thd s/reorts/reports/
19:39 thd Lea: Most of the other 20% were specific reorts on that tribe and just impossible to find in another collection
19:37 thd Lea: I matched about 80% of the records in a small native American Library using the application in the spring
19:35 thd Lea: my application works well but has not yet been ported to Perl and Koha because the new Perl Z39.50 module had not been written when i first started
19:33 Lea wow, this gets better by the minute :D
19:33 thd l
19:32 thd Lea: I have an application for doing that automatically from the data in existing records.
19:31 Lea ... I'll say that to be on the safe side
19:31 Lea no, must be less
19:31 Lea I think it's around 16,000
19:31 Lea let me thjink
19:30 thd Lea: how many records do you need to upgrade?
19:30 thd Lea: you need to search on multiple fields simultaneously for a reliable match
19:26 Lea thd: what is this application you speak of?
19:23 Lea I've had 2 direct hits on title now
19:23 Lea ??
19:22 thd Lea: i have created a special application for doing what you intend
19:21 thd Lea: matching on ISBN alone is very unreliable
19:21 Lea ah, misread. It's late here :)
19:21 thd Lea: yes Oxford works but my information for Cambridge is incorrect.
19:21 Lea what are you using to access it?
19:20 Lea that worked for me
19:20 Lea res = conn.search (query)
19:20 Lea query = zoom.Query ('CCL', 'isbn=9781904570011')
19:20 Lea conn.databaseName = 'ADVANCE'
19:20 Lea conn = zoom.Connection ('library.ox.ac.uk',210)
19:20 Lea I used the same info as you did
19:19 thd Lea: I would very much like to know the current Z39.50 connection information for Cambridge University libraries. My information is incorrect for them.
19:19 Lea Here's my idea: 1. Load in the existing MARC21 data (a bit rubbish) 2. Search oxford on ISBN. If that works, import data and overwrite fields in existing data. If it fails, search by title. return a list of records and store in database. The librarians can then use a simple web ui to select the correct books if multiple hits on title. Sound reasonable?
19:17 Lea thanks
19:17 Lea yeah
19:17 thd Lea: Do you have this library.ox.ac.uk:210/ADVANCE ?
19:17 Lea thanks for the oxford uni tip. I think that might do it.
19:15 Lea searching on isbn didn't
19:14 Lea again, searching on title gave me a hit
19:14 Lea i done it. Thanks
19:11 thd s/ties/ty's/
19:09 thd Lea: I can give you the configuration data for Oxford Universities server
19:09 Lea *13 digit
19:09 Lea so I'm looking for 12 digit barcode, nothing. Search by title and get the book under a different barcode.
19:08 Lea I have this problem with the barcodes in that some servers have the same books listed under different barcodes. I'm not a librarian, therefore was totally foxed by this problem
19:08 thd Lea: Oxford University I meant
19:07 Lea I'll have a search
19:07 Lea oxford?
19:07 thd Lea: Oxford has a public Z39.50 server
19:07 Lea talking of which, i got some nice code linking up pyMARC and pyZ3950 which can pull in all MARC21 data for an isbn and you can access the tags like record["245"]["a"]
19:07 chris american spellings and all thd? or do they have LCSH version with english english? :-)
19:06 thd Lea: LCSH has been adopted as a standard at the British Library since they abandoned PRECIS and COMPASS
19:06 chris right
19:06 Lea i was hoping to throw all my ISBNs at a bunch of servers and problem soved...
19:05 Lea everyone is SUTRS mad
19:05 chris the universities might be your best bet
19:05 chris yep
19:05 Lea really hard to find MARC21 z39 servers in the UK
19:05 chris in fact most of them do
19:05 chris oh yeah the NZ national library do it too
19:05 Lea uk National Library want to charge for MARC21 data! I was shocked!
19:04 Lea ok. I tell you my situation, I'm migrating data that has NO subject data. I can do mappings based on existing keywords but would like a list that the librarians can choose from in ambiguous cases. So I'd like a standard list of Subjects.
19:04 thd although LC manaiNa
19:04 chris im sure the National Libraries in the UK must have a set of subject headings too?
19:03 chris Library of congress has some, but they will all have the wrong spellings for you :)
19:03 chris there are standards
19:03 Lea Is there a "standard" for Subjects? Or should I just let the librarians use anything?
19:02 Lea evening/morning. I guessed more would be on at this time of night/day :D
18:51 thd quit
18:50 dewey thd: bugger all, i dunno
18:50 thd dewey how old is you rumour?
18:50 dewey rumour has it kados is helping us LibLime folk with something at the moment
18:50 thd kados?
16:18 thd kados::sorry, I forgot that meant that you are away at the conference event
16:14 thd kados:so if you are finished do you have a moment?
16:13 kados thd: library-in-a-box just finished up
16:12 thd kados: what subject?
16:12 kados thd: I'm at code4lib conference
16:12 thd kados: are you there?
13:02 thd hdl: do you know of any UNIMARC Z39.50 authority record targets? I need to test my application but I have no UNIMARC targets to use for testing.
13:01 hdl Yes But When it is rock stable
13:01 thd hdl: are you planning to move them to rel_30 ?
13:00 hdl With rel30 may be.
13:00 hdl Not Yet.
13:00 thd hdl: does FRANTIQ have a Z39.50 server?
12:59 hdl But yes.
12:59 hdl I may quit unexpectedly.
12:59 hdl ... fuzzing.
12:58 hdl my internet connection is
12:58 thd hdl: are you present?