Time  Nick  Message
10:57 hdl   He weighted 3kg500
10:57 hdl   Matthieu was borne yesterday morning at 11 am (Church Time in France :D )
10:56 hdl   paul is 4 times' DADDY
10:51 hdl   ok
10:51 kados hdl: can you tell koha-devel how you did it ?
10:51 hdl   No problem
10:51 kados hdl: thx, and sorry
10:51 hdl   I shall revert the file.
10:50 kados hdl: so I'm not sure cvs update -j 1.3.2.14 -j 1.3.2.15 search.pl actually worked
10:50 kados hdl: I tried manually copying the reverted search.pl into my install and it still has the same prob
10:50 hdl   be careful on the roads.
10:50 kados hdl: I need to go to the office (still at home)
10:47 kados wtf!
10:47 kados :(
10:47 kados Entries has no tag
10:46 kados perhaps my cvs -A changed the branch to HEAD
10:46 kados unless I committed wrong
10:46 kados savannah--
10:46 hdl   yes :(
10:45 kados hdl: it's not linked to rel_2_2 tag!
10:45 kados hdl: do you see my commit message?
10:45 kados cvs seems to have a prob
10:44 kados strange
10:42 hdl   Should have been corrected.
10:42 kados yep
10:42 hdl   only the firs term is taken ?
10:42 kados so both terms aren't captured
10:42 kados when I warn I mean
10:42 kados title is reported as 'tom' with awarn
10:41 kados hmmm
10:41 kados etc
10:41 kados 10 minute guide to time management /
10:41 kados 10 minute guide to selling (just about) anything /
10:41 kados 10 days to a more powerful vocabulary /
10:41 kados results I get back are:
10:41 kados target is LOC
10:41 kados sure
10:40 hdl   Can you give some more information ?
10:40 kados hdl: a title search on tom sawyer returns strange results
10:40 kados hdl: now I'm using the reverted search.pl and searchresult.tmpl from default
10:40 kados hdl: it still works strangely for me
10:34 kados I'll document how I did it on koha-devel
10:34 hdl   Good.
10:34 kados ok, this time it worked
10:34 hdl   Changing forge again ? :D
10:32 kados hdl: any ideas?
10:32 kados cvs commit search.pl
10:32 kados cd /new/repo/koha/z3950
10:32 kados mv search.pl /new/repo/koha/z3950/search.pl
10:32 kados then I did:
10:32 kados which reverted the version
10:31 kados cvs update -j 1.3.2.14 -j 1.3.2.15 search.pl
10:31 kados I did:
10:31 kados hdl: yea, it doesn't let me commit, exits with no error
10:28 kados hdl: I reverted search.pl but it won' let me commit :(
10:28 kados hdl: now I'm having strange cvs probs
10:14 Lea   ah, amazon :D
10:13 Lea   i wonder if there is a z39 server for media
10:12 Lea   add biblio->empty biblio gets me ther
10:11 Lea   ah, superb!
10:11 kados ?
10:11 Lea   ie, it's not there. I can only access after a search
10:10 Lea   i didn't notice the editor in the menus
10:10 Lea   ah ok. I'll try it
10:10 kados Lea: koha.liblime.com -> click on 'MARC Editor' -> type something in the ISBN and click 'Z39.50 Search' at the top
10:09 kados Lea: you don't need the marc record to exist first to use the marc editor
10:09 Lea   yes, however you need the marc record to exist first. What I'm looking for is pulling in records via the z39 server. I can script this with books as they have a unique ISBN, but video/music items will have to be searched on title, producing lots of results. I wondered if there was an "online importer" in koha
10:07 kados Lea: there's an integrated MARC editor in koha, haven't you seen that?
10:06 Lea   kados: are you saying you need to have the marc record already? i'm confused
10:04 Lea   Under biblio framework?
10:04 Lea   I'll give it a go
10:03 Lea   hi kados
10:01 kados hdl even :-)
10:01 kados hi hld
10:01 hdl   hi kados.
10:00 kados Lea: you can use the Z39.50 search integrated into the MARC editor to find records and import them into the editor
10:00 kados Lea: morning
09:44 Lea   if anyone is awake: can i add biblios via the z39 servers?
06:51 Lea   nn
06:51 Lea   madness
06:51 Lea   i can ping servers but wget is failing on routing :(
06:50 Lea   i have to sort out a routing issue :(
06:50 chris with the marc/z3950
06:50 chris thanks, good luck
06:50 Lea   have a good sleep man :D
06:50 chris heh
06:50 Lea   (Believe that you'll believe anything!)
06:50 Lea   anyway, i'm aware this is OT and I don't _generally_ have any hard feelings.
06:49 chris yeah only took what 300 years ? :)
06:49 Lea   yeah, i can imagine. Them lucky gits got their own money and law making powers though :(
06:49 chris so they say the same thing :)
06:48 Lea   ah right
06:48 chris lots of scots or descendants of scots in nz
06:47 chris hehe
06:47 Lea   them rugby games take on a whole new dimension!
06:47 Lea   i really know where you're coming from. Just think if you had to abide by Oz laws and use Oz money!
06:46 Lea   :D
06:46 Lea   Wales and anyone playing the saxons
06:46 chris wales and anyone playing england?
06:46 Lea   i support 2 teams to
06:46 Lea   ah
06:46 chris i support 2 teams, nz and anyone playing australia
06:46 Lea   ok, i promise :D
06:45 chris just dont support australia
06:45 chris heh
06:45 Lea   it would also give me the chance to support a decent rugby team :D :D :D
06:45 Lea   sounds good to me :D
06:45 chris yep, a little more temperate
06:44 Lea   People say it's a lot like Wales
06:44 Lea   i do want to visit NZ though. It's more like home to me
06:44 Lea   hehe
06:44 chris bah ... australia :)
06:43 Lea   ah, yes. I may be moving to Australia soon
06:43 chris new zealand
06:43 Lea   where are you?
06:43 chris now its time for me to go to sleep
06:43 chris no worries
06:43 Lea   hey chris, thanks mate. much appreciated.
06:42 Lea   yeah, i wouldn't
06:42 chris or just use the cms to edit the templates, dont touch koha
06:42 Lea   great stuff. Is there docs on that or am i "using the source"? :D
06:41 chris yep
06:41 Lea   ah ok, so with GET/POST variables?
06:41 chris html::template
06:41 chris its html
06:40 Lea   yeah, that's what I'm asking really. Is there some docs on the input/output params of the perl scripts?
06:40 chris or at least some files which the templates include
06:40 chris is let the cms control the templates
06:40 Lea   but i didn't want EVERYTHING to do with koha inside an iframe
06:40 Lea   just using a CMS as an intranet type thing, then integrating koha into that
06:40 chris all you need to do then
06:39 Lea   no no
06:39 chris i was meaning using koha to handle docs and pdf's etc
06:39 chris thats even easier
06:39 chris oh that
06:39 Lea   I just think Joomla would be an easy way for the library staff to manage notices, opening times, etc
06:38 chris yep
06:38 Lea   can you simply call the perl scripts independantly? thus making your own front end?
06:38 chris its all a matter of time
06:38 Lea   ok
06:38 chris wouldnt be hard to do with something like drupal or joomla
06:36 Lea   ok
06:36 chris when you deleted it from koha you could delete it from the cms too
06:36 Lea   http://zoom.z3950.org/bind/python/ :D :D :D
06:36 chris yep
06:36 Lea   so was it a fire and forget from the CMS->Koha or did you get the koha pages to talk back to the CMS?
06:35 Lea   cool!
06:35 chris its backended with cvs
06:35 Lea   oh ok
06:35 chris kea
06:35 chris one we wrote ourselves years ago
06:35 Lea   oh right! do you mind if i ask you what CMS?
06:35 chris basically you add the document n the cms and then it redirects to koha, passing over info like the url, size, author, title etc
06:34 chris (i did it :))
06:34 chris magic
06:33 Lea   ok, did they do integration magic or simply have the koha pages in an iframe?
06:33 Lea   it's just that for library staff, a CMS is way easier to manage
06:33 chris katipo have done that with our cms
06:32 chris in that case, yep
06:32 Lea   yeah
06:32 chris using a cms to publish digital documents then catalogue them with koha?
06:32 Lea   yeah, it's something I'm meaning to look at but I'm in LOVE with python :D
06:32 chris integrated in what way?
06:32 chris if you like python, you'd like ruby :)
06:32 Lea   oh, there was one other unrelated question going though my head: I wondered if anyone had integrated koha into Joomla! or any other CMS?
06:31 chris theres one for ruby
06:31 chris bound to be
06:31 Lea   i wonder if there is a zoom library port to python
06:31 chris :)
06:31 Lea   ok, cool man. Looks like I have a busy day :D
06:31 chris yep
06:31 Lea   otherwise it wont import into the framework
06:30 chris yep
06:30 Lea   because I'll have to get the MARC file, copy only those fields I want to keep, then write out the "localised" version
06:30 Lea   actually, yes this is slightly more complicated
06:29 chris id use ZOOM
06:29 chris querys some z3950 server(s) and writes the marc to another file
06:29 Lea   yes, ok. How should i make the z39 call or do i need to write a library to do that? :)
06:29 chris so some kinda script that reads a file of isbn's
06:29 chris and then you can use bulkmarcimport.pl to load them into koha
06:28 chris basically what you want is to just grab marc records
06:28 chris youd probably have to do it from scratch
06:28 Lea   ok, what are the scripts I should look at?
06:27 chris yeah im sure you could shell script it
06:27 Lea   is there a way i can automate this? I mean, i have a lot of ISBN numbers
06:27 chris but you get lots of false positives with the title
06:27 chris title works too
06:27 Lea   ah cool
06:27 chris yeah thats the easiest
06:26 chris they carry catalogue records even if they dont carry the actual items
06:26 Lea   hey chris, thanks for the pointers. I'm going to try it. It searches on ISBN right?
06:26 chris library of congress etc
06:26 chris yeah, british national library
06:26 Lea   i guess you just need to put in some BIG libraries
06:26 chris and it can try them all
06:26 Lea   ah ok
06:26 chris but koha lets you specify lots of servers
06:25 Lea   so is it of limited use then?
06:25 chris computer says no ..... *cough*
06:23 Lea   is it like DNS where unknown books will be forwarded on or is it a case of "not in outr library. computer says no"
06:22 Lea   ok thanks chris
06:19 chris or for one closer to you  ... yaz-client library.ox.ac.uk:210
06:18 chris if that works on the koha server .. then the z3950 client in koha oughta work
06:18 chris yaz-client z3950.loc.gov:7090
06:17 chris ie
06:16 chris easiest test is to use yaz-client
06:16 chris open connection like http
06:12 Lea   guess i'm just wondering if i need to change my firewall policies
06:11 Lea   I'm going to be losing a lot of data with this migration and I'm thinking z39 might help with that. I tried unsuccessfully to connect to a server. I'm wondering if the server opens up a port back on your machine or if it uses an open connection (like http)
06:10 Lea   I popped on because I realised that this data mapping is a little bit os a nightmare and was after info regarding Z39 servers
06:09 Lea   monday mornings :(
06:09 Lea   oh hi Dewey. Not bad. Just got in after the weekend
06:09 dewey what's up, Lea
06:09 Lea   hi