Time Nick Message 10:54 paul see the last 2 commits from toins 10:54 paul yep 10:44 owen This was with rel_3_0 ? 10:44 paul our mod_perl problem is (at least partially) solved 10:43 owen Hi paul 10:43 paul hi owen. 10:42 owen kados? 04:59 btoumi hi all 19:55 pecisk :) 19:52 russ i know one system that cost over $500k to deploy 19:50 chris some will cost over 200k 19:50 chris 40k is cheap too 19:50 pecisk Jesus Christ :) 19:46 chris you can get things like dbtextworks for around 2000$ but they have no where near the features koha does 19:46 chris kados would know better 19:46 chris you wouldnt be payng less than 40k id imagine 19:45 chris like sirsidynix horizons ...or liberty3 ? 19:44 chris to pa for something that has the same functionality as Koha? 19:43 pecisk Anyone here? if someone would like to buy Koha eq. commercial software, how much he should spend? 3000$? 2000$? 17:39 pecisk ok, I will do 17:39 pecisk http://pastebin.ca/276964 17:39 chris might be the place to ask 17:39 chris http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate 17:38 chris hmm 17:37 pecisk without futher details 17:37 pecisk hmmm, it says Create FAILED at the end of issued command like in document 17:32 pecisk thanks 17:32 pecisk ok, that it is what I thought 17:31 chris i think Locale::PO 17:31 chris ah ha 17:30 pecisk chris: I get Can't locate Locale/PO.pm in @INC error when launching that generation script, what CPAN thingy I need? 17:24 pecisk ahhh, cool 17:24 chris utf8 17:21 pecisk in which encoding those po files should be? 17:20 pecisk chris: question, do you use UTF-8 or something else in Koha? 17:11 pecisk thanks :) 17:10 chris if there isnt already a set of templates in your language, you can use this guide to make one 17:10 chris http://www.kohadocs.org/KOHAtranslation/translation.html 17:10 chris pecisk 17:04 pecisk hi guys, I have question again - how one can localise Koha for his local language? 14:31 toins bye all too 14:31 kados ok, have a good night :-) 14:30 paul I have to leave now. see you tomorrow for the 2nd part of this story ;-) 14:30 kados we use debian sarge 14:30 paul ubuntu for toins 14:30 paul mandriva for me & SANOP 14:30 kados what distro do you run on? 14:30 kados so now you should have all the conf files 14:30 toins ok 14:30 kados toins: mailed to paul 14:29 toins sites-enabled/000-default 14:29 kados but are in their dirs 14:28 toins kados, the most import file is site-enables/default 14:28 kados it's broken into sections, so the mods aren't in the apache2.conf proper 14:28 kados I'll email it to you 14:28 kados it's just debian standard 14:28 kados ahh, ok 14:28 paul in apache core config 14:27 paul to find any diff between SAN & NPL 14:27 kados why? 14:27 paul kados : i was interested by httpd.conf 14:26 alaurin we have apache 2 14:26 kados paul: mailed 14:26 paul kados & alaurin : do you have apache2 or apache1 ? 14:25 kados paul: I will email you those files 14:24 kados search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us.conf 14:24 kados intranet.athenscounty.lib.oh.us.conf 14:24 kados then in sites-enabled/ I have two conf files: 14:24 kados NameVirtualHost 220.127.116.11:80 14:24 kados NameVirtualHost 18.104.22.168:80 14:24 kados and 14:24 kados Listen 80 14:24 kados in ports.conf I have 14:24 kados so it is split between several files 14:23 kados I use apache2 conventions for apache conf 14:23 kados yep 14:17 paul kados : could you copy your apache config as well ? 14:14 kados those are some of my ideas :-) 14:14 kados you can use mytop to see active mysql processes 14:14 kados and try to find out if the bottleneck is in perl or in mysql 14:14 kados (means log all queries that take longer than 1 sec) 14:14 kados long_query_time = 1 14:14 kados log_slow_queries = /var/log/mysql-slow-queries.log 14:14 kados also, try logging slow queries: 14:13 kados query_cache_type = 1 14:13 kados query_cache_size = 128M 14:13 kados query_cache_limit = 5M 14:13 kados record_buffer = 2M 14:13 kados sort_buffer_size = 2M 14:13 kados table_cache = 512 14:13 kados tmp_table_size = 256M 14:13 kados # was 128 14:13 kados thread_concurrency = 2 14:13 kados # Try number of CPU's*2 for thread_concurrency 14:13 kados thread_cache = 8 14:13 kados thread_stack = 128K 14:13 kados max_allowed_packet = 16M 14:13 kados key_buffer = 1G 14:13 kados # 25-33% of memory changed by JF 14:13 kados here are NPL's settings: 14:12 kados is my.cnf optimized to handle query cacheing? 14:12 paul in circulation => toins cleaned D::M 14:12 kados very strange 14:12 paul (under medium load : 30 persons testing it. 14:11 kados does rel_3 have Date::Manip ? 14:11 paul (like 20/30 seconds to get a page) 14:11 kados hmmm 14:11 paul no, it IS slow 14:11 kados paul: so without mod_perl it seems slow? 14:10 toins it may be the problem 14:10 paul because the server is quite a good one. 14:10 toins kados, on this 3 script there are some internal sub 14:10 paul can you explain why SANOP has so bad perfs without mod_perl and NPL didn't ? 14:10 toins circulation shelves & branches.pl don't work with mod_perl on rel_3_0 and on dev_week 14:09 kados I suspect there are some problems with the way it's written (not mod_perl safe) 14:09 kados circ does some tricky stuff 14:09 toins kados, dev_week is the same thing 14:09 paul nope 14:09 paul but we have strictly no errors. 14:09 kados have you tested dev_week? 14:09 paul the db handler seems to have "disappeared", or returns nothing at all. 14:08 paul the 1st time you call them, it works, the 2nd time it may works, then, empty forms... 14:08 paul a few script are failing miserabily : circulation.pl / branches.pl for example 14:08 kados paul: what's that? 14:08 paul kados : we face a very very strange problem with mod_perl... 14:07 kados hehe, cool 14:07 owen And I answered my own question, so I don't have anything to ask you :) 14:07 owen Sure thing. 14:07 kados owen: thanks! 14:07 kados I'll update dev_week and get SMFPL to test it out 14:07 kados owen: looks like it's working! 14:02 owen Yeah, hopefully it's working now. 14:02 kados shall I test it out? 14:02 kados owen: looks like you committed a fix to the acquisitions, eh? 14:01 dewey kados: I forgot kados 14:01 kados dewey: forget kados 14:01 kados hey owen 14:01 dewey kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... 14:01 owen kados? 12:33 tumer hi paul 12:33 paul hi tumer 12:33 paul could you send me your NPL apache config files (all of them) to see if I can explain why response times are so nightmare ? 12:32 paul_ - without mod_perl, they have awful performances (really : 20s to get a page) 12:32 paul_ - with mod_perl activated, they have big problems (like editing a page works only 1 every 2 times) 12:31 paul_ kados : (hello) what sounds strange to me is that SAN-OP did some harness testing today and : 12:30 kados (the migration was done in a hurry as you recall) 12:30 kados maybe I panicked at the last moment and turned it off just in case :-) 12:30 toins kados, no problem... 12:29 kados toins: right ... sorry :( 12:27 toins so we can't know if there are some mod_perl bugs in the npl installation... 12:24 toins hum... 12:21 kados toins: so mod_perl is enabled, but Koha doesn't use it currently (but it looks like I did test it, so I'm not sure why it's not being used) 12:20 kados toins: originally I had it in perl.conf file ... but I see it is commented out currently 12:20 hdl back 12:19 toins kados, and where do you writed your koha is under mod_perl ?? 12:17 toins ok thanks 12:16 kados for the OPAC 12:16 kados </Directory> 12:16 kados PerlSetEnv KOHA_CONF "/koha/etc/koha.xml" 12:16 kados PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB "/koha/intranet/modules" 12:16 kados <Directory /koha/opac/cgi-bin/> 12:16 kados I have: 12:16 toins ah ? and so you defined the PERL5LIB in the virtual host ? 12:16 kados and it looks like the handlers are commented out currently 12:15 kados toins: startup.pl is not included 12:15 owen What does it mean, on acquire.pl, "(that all costs are for 1 item)" ? 12:13 toins this => http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=mod_perl 12:12 kados toins: I can compare to NPL's config 12:12 kados toins: which wiki page? 12:12 tumer_ to whom it may concern:wiki.koha.org is not readable with IE. The left menu covers the documents and its frustating! 12:09 toins http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=mod_perl 12:07 toins kados, do you use a specific configuration for mod_perl ? Or a configuration like writed on the wiki ? 11:59 hdl Do you still use your metakoha record ? 11:55 tumer you gain speed by not converting xml to koha perl hashes anyway 11:54 tumer hdl:it was fast 11:54 tumer but need lots of xslt knowledge to define sheets so i left it 11:53 hdl was it slow ? 11:53 tumer used xml-libxslt ;impressive 11:53 tumer kados: i tried that once when i was doing metakoha records 11:52 dewey hdl, I didn't have anything matching tumer 11:52 hdl dewey : forget tumer 11:52 toins hi tumer 11:52 dewey hdl: I forgot hi tumer 11:52 hdl dewey : forget hi tumer 11:52 dewey i think hi tumer is still strugling 11:52 hdl hi tumer. 11:51 kados tumer: hdl and I were wondering if you have been working on XSLT stuff? :-) 11:51 dewey it has been said that hi tumer is still strugling 11:51 kados hi tumer 11:49 owen Okay, that's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure 11:45 hdl owen : Freight is for freight fees. 11:45 hdl owen : Parcel Code is a code you enter in order to retrieve easily the parcel. Could be the parcel # from bookseller, could be any code you want. 11:45 hdl yes 11:44 kados hdl: mod_perl ? 11:44 hdl in rel_2_2 it crashes FF. 11:44 toins kados, yes perhaps 11:44 kados but not sure ... 11:44 kados what are the bugs? 11:43 kados yep 11:42 hdl Do you use shelves module ? 11:41 hdl for circulation.pl, shelves.pl and branches.pl 11:37 kados npl is running mod_perl ... what bugs? 11:36 toins CAN seems to have some mod_perl specific bugs 11:36 toins kados, is npl under mod_perl ? 11:36 hdl Do you have mod_perl installations running ? 11:36 kados hdl: mod_perl probs? 11:35 hdl kados : what about mod_perl problems ? 11:35 toins kados, ok 11:35 owen What values should be entered there? 11:34 owen Parcel Code and Freight. 11:34 owen I'm curious about the screen that shows "Receive a new Parcel" 11:34 kados toins: you may want to see the few commits Ryan and I have made to dev_week, cleaning up a couple of minor bugs 11:34 toins owen, what 's your problem with acquisition ? 11:33 toins hi kados 11:33 kados hi guys 11:33 kados hehe 11:33 owen Are you familiar with acquisitions? 11:32 toins owen, yep 11:32 owen toins, are you still there?