Time  Nick      Message
11:51 btoumi    nono?
11:54 btoumi    nono are u around:
16:40 tumer     paul:how did zebra go?
16:40 _paul     hello tumer
16:40 paul      quite well. My problem was an expat one
16:41 tumer     oh yes lots of dependencies
16:41 paul      expat was not installed, thus zebra was not compiled with xml support :-(
16:41 tumer     and not complained while building?
16:42 paul      yes, it was, but just a "grs-xml : no" during configure.
16:42 paul      can easily be missed...
16:42 paul      (hdl added a wiki page to warn for this)
16:42 tumer     yes i think you should bug them
16:42 paul      (& probably other zebra specific stuff will come...)
16:42 hdl       hi
16:42 dewey     hi, hdl
16:43 tumer     hi
16:43 tumer     paul: now working on a WAP version koha, anyone else worked on this before?
16:46 hdl       tumer : does yaz query UDP or TCP ports ?
16:46 tumer     tcp
16:47 tumer     port 212 is globally reserved for z3950 and there is one for zebra as well
16:47 tumer     212/210
16:50 hdl       Thanks tumer.
16:51 paul_away bye world.
16:51 kados     hdl: I recommend a unix socket rather than tcp
16:51 kados     hdl: it's much faster
16:51 paul      a quick information for kados & tumer...
16:51 hdl       kados : it is for external servers.
16:51 kados     hdl: (ahh)
16:52 tumer     hdl:search for a list i cannot remember the address but gives the whole use of ports
16:52 paul      this week, i'm teaching koha v3 to SAN-OP. keep finger crossed...
16:52 tumer     crossed
16:52 paul      because I'm sure we will encounter bugs (we have 2 months to find them), but hopefully not too much
16:52 kados     yep
16:52 kados     so far NPL is very happy
16:53 kados     minimal bugs in dev_week
16:53 paul      otherwise, the 1st 14 users will be disappointed & they will be anxious for going live on january 1st...
16:53 kados     so hopefully the same for rel_3_0
16:53 paul      yep, but I know there are still alot of improvements to do, for SAN-OP on their zebra setup.
16:53 kados     paul: I have a suggestion
16:54 kados     paul: I suggest that we not release 3.0 officially until SAN is happy with it
16:54 kados     my feeling is that an official release is too important to be buggy ...
16:54 paul      (even if I may install a 2nd library, managed 100% by me with it in early january)
16:55 kados     especially since zebra is so complex
16:55 paul      an official release is important and THIS release is more than important...
16:55 kados     it could be detremental to the project if it is complex AND buggy :-)
16:55 tumer     i am probably setting up another library next mont with HEAD
16:55 kados     paul: exactly
16:56 kados     tumer: which one?
16:56 dewey     rumour has it which one is that? :-)
16:56 paul      note that SAN-OP don't uses acquisitions, so we won't test rel_3 acqui module...
16:56 tumer     which??
16:56 dewey     which is, like, really annoying or insane
16:56 paul      which new library with HEAD ?
16:56 kados     tumer: which library?
16:56 tumer     a special library in Turkey
16:56 kados     cool
16:57 tumer     currently HEAD is as bugfree as rel2_2
16:57 paul      don't you find too many bugs in HEAD ? because toins did many many many bugfixes on rel_3 that you should have in HEAD
16:57 paul      ???
16:57 kados     tumer: that may be just for the subset of functions that you use
16:58 tumer     I have it running for 2 month only acquisitions not well tested
16:58 kados     hdl: what is the status of authorities with zebra?
16:58 paul      it's working (for UNIMARC at least).
16:58 tumer     i have not been committing-since nobody uses it
16:58 kados     cool
16:58 kados     we need to discuss how to manage our commits better
16:59 kados     I've a feeling there's a lot of duplicated work
16:59 tumer     kados:Date.pm on head is now all necessary function for KOHA without Date::Manip. i am committing it now
16:59 kados     tumer++
16:59 paul      tumer : OK, but you should always comit, because toins follow all commits, and report what is needed/interesting on rel_3
16:59 paul      it's a shame you did not previously, because toins is working on that for rel_3_0 too
16:59 kados     paul: re: 2.2.7 ... did you see my email sent today?
17:00 tumer     well i did paul
17:00 tumer     this is additions
17:00 tumer     and i still see lots of duplicated work
17:00 paul      kados : the one about mySQL5 support ?
17:00 kados     paul: yse
17:01 kados     paul: yes even :-)
17:01 paul      yes, i've read it. But my main concern is to have a mySQL4 AND mySQL5 compliance, which is not so easy, If toins is not lying.
17:01 kados     ahh, I see
17:01 kados     isnt' that what Contex.pm is for?
17:01 kados     ie, there used to be a way to specify the db driver to use
17:01 paul      so i'm waiting for chris commits to check if it's work is OK for mySQL 4 as well
17:01 kados     ok
17:02 paul      yes, but some SQL statements must be rewritten.
17:02 paul      for example :
17:02 paul      select X, Y from A,B where A.xxx = B.yyy is no more correct if you should write :
17:02 kados     join, I know
17:02 paul      select X,T from A left join B on A.xxx=B.yyy
17:02 kados     it's a major change
17:02 kados     and the behavior has changed too
17:03 paul      and there's a LOT of such syntaxes all around koha !
17:03 kados     yep
17:03 kados     maybe there's a 'backwards compatible' for mysql5?
17:03 paul      ok, guys, it's time for me to go with my wife...
17:03 kados     paul: have a good afternoon
17:04 paul      (it seems the SQL planner has be deeply modified)
17:04 paul_away this time, bye world.
17:05 paul_away a last note about 3.0 official release : kados, you're the release manager, so you'll decide when releasing :-D
17:06 kados     paul_away: ok, good :-=)
17:06 kados     paul_away: ciao
17:10 chris     hmm with the changes i made to make it work under mysql5 they all work under mysql 4 too
17:10 chris     its just rearranging the joins and adding some ()
17:11 chris     to make it actually ansi compliant sql
17:11 kados     chris: !! wtf are you doing up? :-)
17:11 kados     kinda early, no?
17:11 chris     its 9.11am
17:11 kados     ahh, must be the daylight savings time ... always throws me oof
17:12 kados     and time flew by today
17:12 chris     the live server runs mysql5 the test server runs mysql4 and it works on both
17:12 kados     sweet
17:12 chris     but there may be something else i have missed
17:13 tumer     chris:i saw the server->name server->host modif you did, thats becuase it never worked for windows and thats how i used it
17:13 kados     how many queries have been changed roughly?
17:13 chris     umm about 5 or 6
17:13 chris     just in SearchMarc.pm and Search.pm
17:13 chris     some of the left joins
17:14 tumer     acquisitions and serials will need some change as well
17:14 chris     its pretty much entirely to do with left joins
17:14 chris     well rangitikei use those, so either i made those changes, or they didnt need them :)
17:16 tumer     and from what i read only one change in behavour (we do not use) and which can be controlled by dbd::mysql anyway
17:16 chris     yup
17:16 chris     in terms of Koha i think its only the left joins that need to be changed
17:16 tumer     yep from me too
17:17 tumer     i will be doing it for head
17:17 chris     cool
17:19 owen_     Hey chris, how's it going?
17:20 chris     heya owen, busy but good
17:20 owen      when's your little boy due?
17:20 chris     december 19
17:20 owen      Cool. We've got one arriving on Feb. 2 :)
17:21 chris     woo congrats
17:21 chris     heh
17:21 chris     theres some bad ones on there
17:22 kados     bbiab
17:23 chris     heh
17:24 kados     I was doing good last week ... taking lunch on time and such
17:24 kados     but I got hit with a tidal wave of support requests this morning
05:07 Mordazy   Hi all
05:07 Mordazy   anybody here?
05:17 osmoze    hello
05:17 dewey     salut, osmoze
05:17 Mordazy   hi osmoze, hi dewey
05:17 Mordazy   are you proficient in importing things into Koha?
05:21 Mordazy   I want to import bibl. records into breeding farm
05:21 Mordazy   but don`t know what format the file should be...
05:22 Mordazy   tried iso2709
05:22 Mordazy   and .mrk file produced by MarcTools
06:22 osmoze    bugs.koha.org is dead ?
06:23 mason     oops
06:24 mason     chris did some perl upgrading on the box today...
06:24 mason     that could be why its down
06:25 osmoze    bad chris ! no test before :p
06:28 mason     hes probably in bed now, so ill get him to have a look in the morning
06:28 osmoze    ok :)
07:03 chris     nope i didnt touch bugzilla, or perl i just installed a perl module
07:03 chris     so it wont be that
07:04 chris     ill go see what the problem is tho
07:04 osmoze    hum...Probleme of repository
07:17 chris     its dead at the moment im afraid, for some reason someone has uninstalled bugzilla
07:18 chris     the database is all there safe and sound tho, so nothing is lost, ill just have to wait until the morning and ask the sysadmin why he did it
07:18 chris     and make him put it back
07:28 osmoze    arf, bad :(