Time  Nick      Message
11:00 thd       s/page/results page/
11:02 owen      The onload method simply detects when the page is loaded. It doesn't have anything to do with the backend language. All it knows is that the data coming in has finished.
11:03 owen      Since HTML pages don't really "stream," the DOM can tell when the HTML file is complete, I think.
11:04 thd       owen: so what does the function called by onLoad need to do to hide the waiting message?
11:05 owen      Here's how I did it with the addbiblio template: I added a document.write() to the top of the page creating a DIV that overlays the page with the waiting message. Then I have the onload function change the display properties of that DIV to 'hidden' when the page has loaded.
11:05 owen      It's not ideal, but it was an improvement.
11:06 thd       owen: you have an ideal solution as well?
11:06 owen      :)
11:07 owen      A better solution would overlay the whole page and prevent the user from clicking anything until the page was loaded.
11:07 owen      I'm not sure how to accomplish that...I've never investigated it.
11:12 thd       owen: I imagined that document.write would need to rewrite the page completely.  I assume now that document.write only searches the DOM to replace only the div element to hide it.  Is that correct?
11:13 owen      No, document.write doesn't rewrite the whole page. It simply adds what you tell it to wherever you place the <script>document.write()</script>
11:13 owen      Again, not ideal, because inline javascript isn't very pretty.
11:14 owen      However, all of the progressive enhancement techniques I'm familiar with rely on onload functions, so that wouldn't work in this case.
11:16 thd       own: yse, unless javaScript can search Z39.50 and OAI servers and parse MARC records for this case.
11:20 thd       s/own/owen/
11:20 thd       s/yse/yes/
11:20 thd       thank you owen
11:20 owen      No, and I would never suggest that it could.
11:21 thd       kados are you back from breakfast?
12:36 kados     thd: you there?
12:36 kados     thd: sorry, I got held up
12:37 kados     thd: configuring a svn server for our new repository
17:19 thd       kados: I am back now. Have You been released?
04:04 osmoze    hi
05:53 lloyd_p01 ahh right... i was speaking to some guy last week from liblime, cant remember your nick so if you remember me please pm me :)
05:57 Lea       hi. Is anyone awake? :)#
06:02 lloyd_p01 Hey :)
06:05 Lea       hi!
06:05 Lea       ok. I want you to sell me the benefits of using Koha over this rubbish IIS/W2K3 system that I'm being told to buy :)
06:06 lloyd_p01 hehe... i'm here as a customer too, for the NHS =)
06:06 Lea       in the uk?
06:06 lloyd_p01 yes
06:06 Lea       lol - I'm network manager at a college in Wales ;)
06:06 lloyd_p01 ahh I'm network manager for west suffolk hospital, in suffolk :p
06:07 lloyd_p01 we're planning on using Koha to replace the library management systems for 28 librarys in the east of england..
06:07 Lea       we've got that "eclipse" system running here. 3 copies on 3 separate campuses. They want to integrate it all and put it online. Thing is, they use barcode scanners. You know if it handles that?
06:08 lloyd_p01 yeah it does
06:08 Lea       28! o_O
06:08 lloyd_p01 yeah.. its going to be huge :)
06:08 Lea       you know if itll use ldap as a backend?
06:08 lloyd_p01 you mean instead of using mysql?
06:09 Lea       i'm talking just user auth
06:09 lloyd_p01 koha will use ldap for authentication, but not for the database
06:09 Lea       we have a central directory
06:09 Lea       oh ok, perfect :)
06:09 Lea       so will you be using linux servers?
06:09 lloyd_p01 yup, you have to :)
06:09 lloyd_p01 which is handy for me, as i'm a linux admin :)
06:10 Lea       ok, would you be willing to swap work email ads as it looks like we'll be doing exactly the same setups (almost!) and in the same timezone :)
06:10 lloyd_p01 yeah no problem.. pm :)
06:27 hdl       hi
06:28 Lea       hi hdl
06:29 Lea       hdl: do you know if there's a pdf/html page somewhere that simple lists koha's features? I want to pass it on to my boss/librarians.
06:30 hdl       Did you try wiki.koha.org ? or www.koha.org ?
06:30 Lea       of course :)
06:30 Lea       http://www.koha.org/about-koha/features/index.html
06:30 Lea       that's the only summary i can find
06:31 Lea       I was looking for something like a sales brochure i guess ;)
06:31 lloyd_p01 hehehe
06:31 lloyd_p01 good luck with that :D
06:32 hdl       we are not so good at saling :D
06:33 hdl       But you can ask kados for some.
06:33 hdl       He has pretty Good ones.
06:33 lloyd_p01 hdl - you dont happen to know which one of the people in here is from liblime do you? I was talking to him last week and i cant remember his nick :/
06:33 hdl       The problem is that he is in USA and not got up yet.
06:33 Lea       hehe
06:33 Lea       I found this one: http://liblime.com/promo/kohabifold.pdf
06:33 hdl       kados is from liblime.
06:34 lloyd_p01 haha.. i was just about to paste that :p
06:34 lloyd_p01 cheers hdl :)
06:34 hdl       Lea : There you are.
06:34 hdl       Is it ok for you ?
06:36 hdl       An other thing would be http://liblime.com/c/koha-features.html
06:36 hdl       http://opac.liblime.com/ for OPAC demo
06:37 hdl       http://koha.liblime.com/ for intranet...
06:38 hdl       In parameters, you can configure and adapt MANY things to your needs.
06:39 hdl       lloyd_p01: maybe owen too.
06:39 lloyd_p01 hdl - dont give up the day job :p
06:39 hdl       Or you can ask mj ray (he is in uk)
06:41 lloyd_p01 mmm what happened to that library with the windows live looking opac.. was in the topic last week
06:41 hdl       mjr at phonecoop dot coop
10:44 Lea       does anyone know where the page is that is shown on the koha v.2.2 section on the homepage?
10:45 Lea       the one that says "Manage your library"
10:50 owen      Where do you see that, Lea?
10:50 owen      on Koha.org?