Time Nick Message 16:09 thd kados: are you there? 08:48 hdl kados ? 08:48 dewey i guess kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... 08:50 kados hdl: I'm here 08:51 hdl It seems you use new modules for your search API... 08:51 kados yep 08:51 paul hi kados. 08:51 hdl Language::Stem and so on. 08:51 kados hi paul 08:51 toins hi kados 08:51 kados hdl: yes, that's correct 08:51 owen Hi everyone 08:51 paul hi owen 08:51 toins hi owen 08:52 hdl Is there a place on the wiki where you would list ALL the perl modules necessary and explain why and how you use them ? 08:53 hdl Because installing new modules without having the slightest idea of what it is meant for is quite frustrating. 08:53 toins hi _paul... 08:53 kados hdl: did you read the pod documentation? 08:54 hdl I did. 08:54 hdl I know what THIS module do. 08:54 kados what module don't you know? 08:54 hdl But what I want to tell you is that you are not working only on your own. 08:55 kados :-) 08:55 hdl We are many trying to synch and it would be better to tell or warn. 08:55 hdl Now Koha need this and that module. 08:55 kados The search script is very heivily documented 08:56 kados but I will tell you 08:56 hdl But ppl from SAN here had Search badly broken. 08:56 kados don't expect to be able to just run stuff from dev_week without investing Many Many hours learning how to use zebra 08:56 hdl And it is frustrating for them. 08:57 kados I can imagine 08:57 hdl Have you commited a zebra conf file that would make learning easier ? 08:57 kados ?!?! 08:57 hdl (friendlier) 08:57 kados right now my job is to get my clients up and running 08:58 hdl If we had a reference, it would help to adapt things to UNIMARC. 08:58 hdl But you asked for comments. 08:58 paul hdl : i did some stuff for UNIMARC. 08:58 paul aren't they working anymore ? 08:58 hdl If we cannot get it work what will be the point in commenting ? 08:59 kados many many months ago I tried to get people to work on zebra 08:59 kados but everyone gave up on it 08:59 kados so I had to write my own stuff for my clients 08:59 kados I'm sorry if it doesn't work out of the box for you 09:00 kados but right now I have to focus on getting them up and running 09:00 kados NPL goes live on October 8th 09:02 paul that's quite a good news for the stability of 2.4. If you think it's ready for production, then we will be able to work on something stable for rel_3 ;-) 09:04 kados hdl: I committed all my zebra config files in the zebraplugin directory 09:04 kados hdl: many of them are very heavily commented 09:04 kados hdl: record.abs, bib1.att, ccl.properties are the most important files 09:05 kados hdl: along with zebra-biblios.cfg and koha.xml 09:05 hdl ok. 09:05 kados hdl: expect to spend several weeks understanding how zebra works :-) 09:06 hdl I have already spent some time on it. 09:06 paul kados : you're quite pessimist I think. several weeks are needed to understand how to WRITE koha/zoom/zebra. 09:07 paul but hopefully, you already did 90% of the stuff, so we will just have to write the 10% missing for UNIMARC ;-) 09:07 kados paul: nope :-) 09:07 kados paul: I'm not pessimist, just realistic 09:07 hdl And UNIMARC has some peculiarity that you overlooked for want of time. and I understand. 09:08 kados it goes deeper than that 09:08 kados to properly search UNIMARC you will need to understand the Z39.50 protocol deeply 09:09 kados and will need to explore in detail where in UNIMARC various bib1 attributes should be 09:09 paul do you have a sample ? 09:09 kados just look at ccl.properties for example 09:09 kados and the new record.abs 09:10 kados ccl.properties is about 1000 lines of config and documentation 09:11 kados the construction of the 007 and 008 fields in record.abs 09:11 kados are another example 09:11 kados I don't know how this is handled in unimarc 09:12 kados but it took me several weeks to fully understand how to do it properly in USMARC 09:31 hdl kados: thx.