Time Nick Message 10:56 paul bye bye world, see you tomorrow morning 10:54 kados owen: soon as that's done, i think we can announce it to the staff 10:53 kados owen: it'll take me a day or so to implement it 10:53 kados owen: I've got some info from ID on improving the default 'simple search' 10:35 thd kados: there was actually one items subfield that I had requested which is still not included. The one for source of acquisition is still not there so I had been adding that to public note, lacking private note. 10:31 thd kados: now you can have respectable looking items in addition to the ones already generated by a script. 10:29 thd thank you Ryan, just what I had requested 10:28 kados thd: I was unaware of changing the items editor template, maybe Ryan did it 10:28 kados heh 10:28 dewey kados, I didn't have anything matching ahh 10:28 kados dewey: forget ahh ... 10:28 dewey kados, I didn't have anything matching ahh 10:28 kados dewey: forget ahh 10:27 dewey i guess ahh ... is that how 'snapshots' are done? 10:27 kados ahh ... 10:21 thd kados: you had written ?? after I thanked you. 10:20 thd kados: were you unaware of having changed the items editor template to provide editor access to the subfields that I had requested? 10:02 thd kados: This Alaskan flag book does not even have anything other than ASCII characters. 10:01 thd kados: I think the system is failing to recognise that the leader is Unicode even when it clearly is set correctly. 10:00 thd kados: I suspect there were two few cases of non-UTF-8 leaders for that to have been the problem every time I had observed it. 09:59 thd kados: When I attempted to show you this problem in France, you had noticed that the particular example did not have a UTF-8 leader. 09:57 thd kados: the real problems were finding subfields moved to different fields after saving. 09:55 btoumi bye thd 09:55 thd good bye btoumi 09:55 btoumi bye all 09:55 thd kados: I was not concerned with the field order although you can see that the record should not have a personal name subject as its primary subject. 09:54 paul but IPT has found a new bug in MARC editor, that i'm investigating 09:54 kados paul: i have recently discovered bugs in acquisitions (need to test if they exist in the default or just npl templates) 09:54 paul i hope this week for a RC, installed in one of my libraries 09:53 kados paul: when is the release of 2.2.6 scheduled? 09:53 kados paul++ 09:53 paul kados: & thd : yes, it's fixed ;-) 09:53 kados thd: yes, I believe paul fixed that, but I haven't checked 09:52 thd kados: In the case of the repeated $v, repeating duplicates the value originally in the subfield or in the last repeated subfield even after subsequent editing of the value. That was not the worst problem of course. 09:52 kados also, there is no way to create a 650 before a 600 in the current editor :-) 09:51 kados in the display 09:51 kados I'm not sure MARCdetail.pl preserves record order 09:51 kados hmmm 09:48 thd 651 0 $a Alaska $v Biography $v Juvenile literature. 09:48 thd 651 0 $a Alaska $x History $v Juvenile literature. 09:48 thd 600 10 $a Benson, Benny $v Juvenile literature. 09:48 thd 650 0 $a Flags $z Alaska $v Juvenile literature. 09:48 thd kados: 600s should look like .. 09:46 thd kados: I input that record completely manually 09:46 thd kados: How Alaska Got Its Flag 09:45 kados if you can find a record that reporduces the problem I'd be happy to take a look at it 09:43 thd kados:99% 09:43 thd kados: I did not test that aspect repeatedly but I did notice it. 09:42 kados are you 100% sure it was a valid UTF-8 leader? 09:42 kados interesting 09:42 thd kados: the leader was a valid UTF-8 leader but the leader plugin reported otherwise the first time I opened the leader in the plugin. 09:41 kados thd: not sure I understand 09:40 thd kados: something is not recognising the value actually in the leader. 09:39 thd s/initial/first/ 09:39 thd kados: When I opened a UTF-8 leader with an a in position 9 the leader plugin initial reported it as MARC8. 09:38 kados thd: otherwise, I think it will do some strange things 09:38 kados thd: it _must_ have an 'a' in position 9 09:37 thd kados: I think that the editor may not be recognising that it is in UTF-8 09:36 thd kados: I found with a newly created record even that more than 2 subfields would be divided between multiple fields after saving. 09:35 kados ?? 09:34 thd kados: thanks for form access to copy number and the individual call number parts 09:34 kados thd: withthe current version? 09:34 kados thd: what was the bug you found? 09:34 kados thd: ok, maybe later today ... after the madness stops :-) 09:33 thd kados: let me know when you have a chance and I will test again 09:32 kados thd: I haven't had a chance 09:31 thd kados: Had you added them to Afognak? 09:31 kados thd: even with paul's new commits? 09:30 thd kados: the record editor is still buggy 09:30 kados thd: plus, I've got a meeting in Northern Ohio with a library tomorrow 09:29 kados thd: got some catching up to do from last week 09:29 kados thd: I am extremely busy today :( 09:24 thd kados: are you there? 08:44 btoumi ok i'm ok 08:43 paul mmm... i think it's a useless thing. 08:43 btoumi search.pm sorry 08:42 btoumi i have fund a file named search.pl in misc directory of head 08:42 paul i don't know what you're speaking about 08:42 paul sorry btoumi, but a power failure make me miss some things in irc 08:41 btoumi ? 08:41 btoumi :paul what is the file search.pm in misc directory 08:38 paul hdl around ? 08:00 Strait that can't really be said to be handy 07:59 Strait i have 8 librarycards at the moment 07:59 Strait in fact there should be somekind on national librarycard scheme so you wouldn't have to carry a card for every library you use 07:58 Strait since it's completely free for everyone, there is really no reason to cancel them 07:57 Strait they're more or less lifetime deals :D 07:57 Strait and library memberships are rarely canceled here 07:56 Strait although it doesn't really concern us since practically every finn has a library card in their hometown and most have a few others in other towns too 07:55 Strait i believe that the one year policy applies for patron information in finland too 07:52 Strait how do you deal with it in france with koha? 07:52 Strait and that information may only be found from the point of view of the item, not borrowers 07:51 Strait according to ours we can only save the name and contanct information of the last borrower 07:51 paul - no more than 4 months after the book has been returned for issues informations. 07:50 paul - when the user request it and no more than 1 year after end of subscription for patron informations 07:50 paul our legislation says : 07:50 paul Strait: it's the same in France. 07:47 Strait our legislation doesn't allow us to save members reading histories and such 07:46 Strait we also have to break the statistical module somehow 07:45 Strait was what i wanted to say 07:45 Strait "with our intranet translation" 07:44 Strait instead they're expressed by addinf suffixes to words 07:44 Strait we have no words like "from" and "to" 07:44 Strait finnish is an odd language so translations from english aren't always easy 07:43 Strait we've been having a few laughs with out intranet translation 07:43 Strait good :) 07:43 paul ok, so it will be quite easy to update it for 2.2.6 07:43 Strait opac is 2.2.5 07:43 Strait the intranet was i believe 2.2.4 07:43 paul it's on 2.2.5 ? 07:43 Strait why so? 07:42 Strait yep, .po's 07:42 paul did you use .po system to translate Koha to finnish ? 07:42 dewey hola, paul 07:42 paul Strait: hello 07:34 Strait all in all it's looking pretty good for us 07:34 Strait plus we've gained some friends in two significant library schools in finland 07:33 Strait we've been working with them, so Koha will be the first librarysystem in existance to have MARC21 in finnish :) 07:32 Strait for finnish MARC21 we will have to wait for the national library to complete the translation 07:31 Strait to be verified and corrected tomorrow 07:31 Strait we also have a first version of intranet in finnish in existance 07:30 Strait OPAC in finnish now :) 06:43 Comete hello all 06:43 Comete bonjour tlm 06:42 Comete bonjour paul 03:13 btoumi ok c bon a savoir car je vais faire la meme chose pour borrowers-details 03:11 paul yep 03:11 btoumi par contre faut que je fasse l'include au doc-head-open et doc-head.close.inc 03:10 btoumi ok ca marche merci 03:10 btoumi bonjour comete 03:10 paul (bonjour Comete ) 03:09 paul donc, tu virres dans le guarantor_search ;-) 03:09 btoumi c nouveau 03:09 paul yep 03:09 btoumi c dans le doc-head-close.inc 03:09 btoumi exact 03:06 paul mmm... c'est parce que c'est dans les include ! 03:06 btoumi pareil pour categorie.tmpl 03:05 btoumi dans moremember.tmpl aucun appel au css 03:05 btoumi je vais voir avec d'autre template 03:04 btoumi c deja sur le cvs 03:04 paul sinon, commite comme ca, qqn corrigera bien ! 03:04 paul alors regarde dans un autre template, et copie/colle 03:03 btoumi et g pas de condition c juste pour la presentation du popup 03:00 btoumi c un template que g cree 02:58 paul regarde dans le reste du code, tu devrais trouver ton bonheur 02:58 paul normalement, c'est complété par d'autres tmpl_if et tmpl_var (préférences systèmes) 02:57 paul ben non, c'est important quand même pour charger une feuille de style. 02:56 btoumi sauter 02:56 btoumi ct juste pour savoir si je la faisais sautre 02:56 btoumi en fait g cette ligne de code dans guarantor_search.tmpl 02:56 btoumi yes :=) 02:53 paul (on est entre francais je suppose, on peut le faire en VF) 02:52 btoumi <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR name="themelang" -->/includes/common-style.css"> 02:52 btoumi in garantor_search.tmpl 02:51 paul btoumi: which code & which line are u speaking of ? 02:22 btoumi delete line or comment it 02:22 btoumi if u have in code a call to css what we can do? 02:21 btoumi question for all 02:08 btoumi :dewey hi 02:07 btoumi hi dewey 02:07 btoumi hi all 02:00 paul hello world ! 01:49 Comete hello 01:02 Strait and it requires at least 4 01:02 Strait i tried it with 3 letters the first time 01:02 Strait and also * seems to work 00:59 Strait % 00:59 Strait found it... 00:49 Strait is it possible to truncate words is catalogue search? 00:17 thd kados: when you wake up: the record editor is still crawling, but less crawling than previously 23:01 kados chris: you might be interested in this: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=zebraprotocolsupport 23:01 kados ok ... I'm gonna get some sleep 23:00 kados can change their password too 23:00 chris sweet ta 23:00 kados yep 23:00 chris can a borrower renew from the opac? 23:00 chris in 2.2.5 23:00 kados sure 23:00 chris oh quick question 23:00 kados I just need to get the async stuff working 23:00 chris sweet 23:00 kados for the Z3950 client 23:00 kados we can basically use all the stuff I wrote for the opac 22:59 kados for dev-week 22:59 kados interestingly 22:59 kados cool, thanks 22:59 chris ill take a look at that if i get a chance 22:59 kados didn't get around to that 22:59 chris by the upgrader 22:59 kados yep 22:59 chris ok, we should just get the version checked 22:58 kados yea 22:58 kados processz3950queue won't work 22:58 chris they get zoom eh? 22:58 kados for a new install of 2.2.6 22:58 kados if someone installs Net::Z3950 now 22:58 chris right 22:58 kados thing is 22:58 kados if you upgrade to ZOOM, yes 22:58 chris will it work in 2.2? 22:58 kados well it's debatable 22:58 kados yea... 22:57 chris Subject: [Koha-cvs] koha/z3950 processz3950queue [rel_2_2] 22:57 kados which one? 22:57 chris it looked like it should be a dev_week one 22:57 chris ? 22:57 chris heya, did you mean to commit that last commit to the rel_2_2 22:57 kados chris: if briefly 22:56 kados chris: am now 15:55 rosa excellent 15:55 chris pretty good, no real morning sickness, she was pretty tired a few weeks back ... but feeling pretty normal again now 15:54 rosa How is Laurel feeling? 15:54 chris thanks rosa 15:54 rosa morning Chris, and Congratulations to you and Laurel 15:48 chris kados: u about?