Time  Nick       Message
12:15 slef       dewey: here, have a poisoned botsnack.
12:15 dewey      thanks slef :)
12:16 kados      dewey: koha
12:16 dewey      kados: what?
12:16 kados      dewey: Koha is the first open-source ILS
12:16 dewey      OK, kados.
12:17 slef       dewey: koha is also a good free software ILS
12:17 dewey      okay, slef.
12:19 slef       biab, off to irc.oftc.net/#spi
12:48 owen       So how does dewey work?
13:12 tnb        *tinaback
13:22 kados      dewey: how do you work?
13:22 dewey      wish i knew, kados
13:22 kados      hehe
13:22 kados      dewey: ?
13:22 dewey      i don't know, kados
13:22 kados      dewey: what bot are you?
13:22 dewey      kados: i haven't a clue
13:22 kados      guess we'll have to wait for chris
13:24 ToinS      hi, you can use dewey for translation
13:25 ToinS      dewey: translate from french Bonjour
13:25 dewey      ToinS: Hello
13:25 ToinS      dewey: translate to french Hello
13:25 dewey      ToinS: Bonjour
13:30 ToinS      dewey uses babelfish to translate and knows other differents language
13:30 dewey      ToinS: sorry...
13:30 ToinS      hehe
13:34 kados      sweet
13:43 owen       dewey: translate from Czech Nužky
13:43 dewey      owen: i'm not following you...
13:43 owen       dewey: Don't you speak Czech?
13:43 dewey      bugger all, i dunno, owen
13:47 owen       dewey: what do you and logbot talk about when no one is around?
13:47 dewey      no idea, owen
13:50 ToinS      dewey: what about my karma
13:50 dewey      toins: wish i knew
13:50 ToinS      dewey: what about my karma ?
13:50 dewey      i haven't a clue, toins
13:52 ToinS      so it's time to leave.........9 pm in france
13:52 ToinS      bye all
15:39 kados      welcome back owen
15:39 owen       I guess I crashed. All of a sudden Firefox and Chatzilla were gone.
15:40 kados      heh
15:42 owen       dewey: How long was I out?
15:42 dewey      i haven't a clue, owen
15:42 chris      seen owen?
15:42 dewey      owen was last seen on #koha 10 seconds ago, saying: dewey: How long was I out? [Wed May 17 08:42:25 2006]
15:43 owen       Heh.
15:43 chris      seen paul?
15:43 dewey      paul was last seen on #koha 5 hours, 38 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: is jet lag OK or are you as sick as joshua ? [Wed May 17 03:05:20 2006]
15:43 chris      thats of course nz time
15:43 chris      dewey is an infobot
15:43 chris      dewey?
15:43 dewey      chris?
15:44 chris      what are you?
15:44 chris      dewey: what are you?
15:44 dewey      i am an infobot
15:44 chris      it learns from is/was constructs
15:45 kados      dewey: what were you?
15:45 dewey      i don't know, kados
15:45 chris      hehe
15:46 chris      dewey: status?
15:46 dewey      Since Tue May 16 20:12:17 2006, there have been 7 modifications and 19 questions.  I have been awake for 12 hours, 34 minutes, 27 seconds this session, and currently reference 24 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.
15:46 chris      so hes pretty dumb at the moment
15:47 chris      but he'll learn
15:47 chris      bugs?
15:47 dewey      bugs is http://bugs.koha.org
15:47 owen       So every time I say "X is Y" dewey remembers it?
15:47 chris      yep
15:47 chris      if its not already set
15:47 owen       >:-)
15:50 kados      dewey: your namesake is Melvil Dewey, the inventor of the Dewey Decimal Classification system for library classification.
15:50 dewey      OK, kados.
15:50 kados      dewey: who is your namesake
15:50 dewey      dewey's namesake is, like, Melvil Dewey, the inventor of the Dewey Decimal Classification system for library classification
15:50 kados      hehe
15:50 owen       The 'like' is a nice touch
15:50 kados      yea :-)
15:50 kados      I played with a perl-based infobot for a while
15:50 kados      can't remember which one
15:51 kados      it was a blast though
15:54 chris      infobot is all written in perl
15:54 chris      i bet i could write a koha.pl module for it :-)
15:54 chris      dewey: search koha for cryptimonicon
15:54 dewey      chris: i'm not following you...
15:55 chris      that would be kinda cool
15:55 chris      pointless but cool
15:57 kados      hehe
15:57 kados      that would be cool
15:57 kados      actually, I think the infobot in code4lib might already be able to do some stuff like that
15:57 kados      I haven't played with it too much
15:58 chris      yeah, it wouldnt be hard to do
15:58 chris      formatting results nicely would be the hardest bit
16:03 kados      chris: remember that processlist cron job we set up?
16:03 kados      once in a while I see the following:
16:03 kados      | 850  | kohaadmin | localhost | kohacrru | Sleep   | 23705 |       |
16:03 kados      +|
16:03 kados      that lasts for a few hours
16:03 kados      then goes away
16:04 chris      right, what user does our processlist job connect as?
16:04 chris      kohaadmin?
16:04 kados      root I think
16:05 chris      k, so it could be a connection open at the commandline
16:05 chris      thats not doing anything at the moment
16:05 kados      ahh
16:05 kados      must be ryan ;-)
16:05 chris      :)
16:06 chris      i wouldnt worry unless there are a lot of them
16:06 kados      yea, never been more than two or three
16:06 kados      btw ...
16:06 chris      yes?
16:06 kados      the xml probs we're having with the new editor
16:06 kados      I'm at a loss for where to go
16:07 kados      s/where to go/what to do/
16:07 kados      that little test script we write
16:07 kados      wrote even
16:07 chris      yep
16:07 kados      that just goes from xml back to binary
16:07 kados      loses tons of data
16:08 chris      hmm
16:08 chris      so i guess our next question is ... is it the marc->xml that loses data, or the xml->marc
16:08 chris      if its xml->marc we will have to rethink the editor .. if its marc->xml .. we'll just have to not use that
16:09 kados      hmmm
16:10 chris      i think we may be safer going back to creating the marc record without using xml
16:11 chris      since it doesnt seem to be reliable
16:12 chris      which is really annoying
16:12 chris      since its much much more elegant using xml
16:13 chris      but not at all fault tolerant it seems
16:13 kados      yea
16:13 kados      that's a real bummer
16:14 kados      because it might mean that we can't really handle xml properly in Koha
16:14 kados      at least with the current tools
16:15 chris      well it might mean we cant convert from xml to marc with the current tools
16:16 chris      using the marc::file::xml anyway
16:18 chris      http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/8301/?cpg=wnrss
16:18 chris      for something completely random
16:20 kados      hehe
16:43 russ       hi
16:49 owen       dewey: what is which?
16:49 dewey      which is really annoying
02:05 chris      bonjour pierrick
02:05 paul       hello chris
02:06 pierrick   hi paul and chris
02:06 paul       chris : did you get my message at hotel, last saturday ?
02:06 chris      hi paul
02:06 paul       what did you do on saturday ?
02:06 chris      that you couldnt make it, yep
02:06 paul       (hi chris & pierrick )
02:06 chris      we rode the bus around marseille :-)
02:07 chris      http://www.russandsarah.gen.nz/blog/?p=38
02:07 chris      well we walked a lot, but we used the bus to get around
02:10 chris      the park was very busy on saturday, people playing football everywhere :)
02:10 paul       yes.
02:11 paul       soccer is the 1st religion in Marseille. christian being the 2nd !
02:11 chris      hehe
02:12 chris      we went to the supermarket near the beach, and bought food and had a picnic on the beach
02:12 paul       (but when our team, OM, is in final or the european soccer cup (3 years ago), everybody reaches la bonne mère to light a candle. including muslims !)
02:12 paul       s/or/of/
02:12 chris      :-)
02:13 chris      there were lots and lots and lots of italian and spanish tourists at la bonne mere
02:14 chris      maybe lighting candles for real madrid, and milan :-)
02:15 paul       milan ? why ?
02:15 paul       atm, if an italian city had to light some candles, it would be Turin :
02:15 chris      i dunno, it was the only italian soccer team i could think of
02:16 paul       they are in the center of a very very very large scandal
02:16 chris      ohhh yes, the matchfixing?
02:16 paul       including buying some match results...
02:16 paul       yep
02:16 chris      right i saw that on cnn at one of the airports
02:16 paul       they are italian champion, and could be put in 3rd division next year ! would be bankrupcy for sure
02:17 chris      wow, they better start lighting those candles
02:30 chris      soccer?
02:30 dewey      soccer is the 1st religion in Marseille. christian being the 2nd !
02:30 chris      dewey is learning more :-)
02:33 paul       koha is the best free ILS
02:33 paul       free ILS ?
02:33 paul       ILS?
02:33 chris      koha?
02:33 dewey      it has been said that koha is the first open-source ILS or a good free software ILS
02:34 chris      slef and joshua already taught it about koha :)
02:34 chris      ILS is Integrated Library System
02:34 chris      :)
02:34 paul       afraid ?
02:35 chris      paul?
02:35 paul       what is afraid ?
02:35 chris      dewey: paul?
02:35 dewey      chris: no idea
02:35 chris      ahh it doesnt learn from actions
02:42 chris      speaking of code
02:42 chris      i see google have released a toolkit (like yahoo did a while ago)
02:42 chris      for building ajax applications
02:43 chris      http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/
07:43 kados      hi there alaurin
07:47 paul_lunch hello kados
07:52 kados      hi paul
07:52 paul       hi joshua (on phone atm)
07:53 kados      and get back to normal busyness :-)
07:58 alaurin    hi everybobody
09:26 alaurin    i've got a question, i'm working on a program who use the sub ItemType (In search.pm), but this function is not in the 'head' cvs, is there an another way to obtain the info itemtype ???
09:27 alaurin    or can I reload it on the head search.pm ????
09:33 pierrick   alaurin, what is ItemType supposed to do ? in the files I'll send you tonight, there is a new function get_itemtypeinfos_of which should fit your need
09:36 alaurin    ItemType was a function to display the itemtype info in my version (2.2.5) (it sounds like you're fonction)
09:37 pierrick   are you sure it "displays" the information ?
09:37 pierrick   with get_itemtypeinfos_of you can do:
09:37 pierrick   my $itemtypeinfos_of = get_itemtypeinfos_of(@itemtypes);
09:38 pierrick   print $itemtypeinfos_of->{$itemtype}{description};
09:49 kados      hey owen
09:49 kados      long time no see :-)
09:49 owen       :)
10:06 antoine    hi all