Time Nick Message 12:09 griffjon I take it back, it claims it's imported all my records, but they're nowhere to be found. They don't have ISBN numbers, (though the marc import tool doesn't complain) -- is that causing a problem perhaps? 12:44 griffjon OK, seriously -- the Catalog: MArc Acquisition reports all my records imported -- where do they go??? 12:44 griffjon I made sure at least one had an ISBN number, but I can't find even it anywhere 12:44 griffjon they show up neither in the catalog admin tool nor normal book lookup 12:55 owen griffjon, sorry you're not getting any feedback 12:56 owen It's the time of day when Europe is off work and New Zealand isn't up yet 12:56 owen that cuts out 2 of 3 possible continents of tech support 12:57 griffjon ahhh 12:58 griffjon that is something I enjoy about Koha -- it's one of the most scattered and international OSS projects I've seen 13:05 owen What's your time zone griffjon? 13:08 griffjon EDT 13:08 griffjon -5 I think 13:10 owen So in a couple hours New Zealand will come online. Otherwise mornings until about 10:30 or 11 are good for catching France 13:43 griffjon ow that hurt 13:43 griffjon but I think I got my data in 13:43 griffjon the whole marc export/import was a wild goose chase effort for me 13:44 griffjon I used MyODBC Connector for MYSQL to export my books table (reformatted to match the Koha biblio table) from MS Access, then an update query to import it from the temporary MySQL table into biblio and biblioitems 13:45 griffjon I still have to go through manually and assign ISBN/barcode numbers before they become "active" but I expected that step 13:45 kados griffjon: you imported into the reservoir 13:45 kados griffjon: use bulkmarcimport.pl instead 13:45 kados griffjon: it's in the misc directory 13:45 griffjon bulkmarcimport wasn't doing anything for me 13:45 kados griffjon: misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl 13:45 griffjon It parsed a subset of my records, but they never appeared anywhere 13:45 kados griffjon: well, it's _the_ import script, and it's what everyone else uses :-) 13:46 kados griffjon: you sure you followed the instructions carefully? 13:46 griffjon trust me, I tried and tried many different ways to use it 13:46 kados griffjon: you sure you didn't get confused and use misc/bulkauthimport.pl? 13:46 griffjon ooooh, now that I may have done! 13:46 griffjon erm, lemme look 13:46 kados cause that won't work at all, that script does nothing 13:47 griffjon heh 13:47 griffjon yup 13:47 griffjon ok. :( 13:47 griffjon tab completion + frustration can be bad! 13:48 kados :-) 13:49 griffjon lemme clear out my tables and try that 13:50 owen kados, do you know who worked on holidays.pl? The script says "-TG" is that Tumer? 13:50 griffjon fingers crossed.... 13:53 kados owen: probably 13:54 kados griffjon: bulkmarcimport.pl will automatically delete data from the database with the -d option 13:54 owen Have you tried it? Looks interesting, but the interface is javascript-heavy and buggy 13:55 kados I haven't 13:55 kados I think paul has though, and reports it works nice 14:28 owen Congratulations kados 14:39 kados thx ... 14:39 kados it's been a huge joint effort 14:40 kados so really, everyone deserves credit 14:40 griffjon does Koha not care about author first v last names? IT seems to want it in one field (should it be last, first 14:40 griffjon ?) 14:40 kados ahhhh 14:40 kados well, depends on what you're trying to do 14:41 kados if you have MARC records there are several author fields 14:41 kados 245$c is the author's name as it appears on the item 14:41 kados 100$a is the lastname,firstname 14:41 kados 700$a are additional authors 14:41 kados (those are the three main ones) 14:42 kados you shouldn't try to import directly into Koha 14:42 kados use bulkmarcimport ;-) 14:46 griffjon ahhhh 14:52 griffjon I was thinking 100$a was just the last name, and $c was first name (or the other way around) 14:53 griffjon I'm creating my marcimport using the marcedit 14:53 griffjon BTW, a set of tools to import data into koha without having to learn marc would be great for us non-librarian types 14:54 kados sure, and we'd love to build them, but noone's sponsored such a set of tools :-) 14:55 kados if you have a marc dump you don't nee to use marcedit 14:55 kados unless you need to move things around 14:58 griffjon I have just a basic access db of title, author, and a few notes 15:10 griffjon for bulkmarcimport, which title field gets used? I've tried 130$a and 240$a and neither are importing 15:29 griffjon sigh 15:30 griffjon I can't even find any more title records to use 15:33 griffjon aha! 245$a 15:57 owen kados: turns out those changes to Auth.pm weren't what we were looking for after all :( 16:00 kados yea, just saw your email 16:00 kados bummer 16:01 kados both you and CCFLS want that change made 16:01 kados wish I had time to do it today 16:01 kados but I'm swamped in a migration involving authorities 16:24 griffjon one last question for the day -- where are the template variables store? 16:24 griffjon er, stored 16:24 griffjon say, for example, LibraryName? ;) 16:24 kados preferences 16:25 griffjon do I need to add a system preference? the only template pref I saw was npl or default 16:29 kados well, those are the only two templates by default 16:29 chris its pretty tricky, if you put another set of templates in the directory, they will show up in the list 16:30 chris eg /usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/new_templates/en/ etc 16:30 griffjon that's way more effort than I'm ready to expend right now -- I'm just trying to change the libraryname 16:30 chris oh thats a system preference 16:30 chris too 16:31 chris libraryname i think 16:31 griffjon right... I think I must be blind then 16:32 griffjon lemme try adding it 16:33 griffjon aha! that worked 16:33 griffjon alright 16:33 griffjon with that success I'm outahere 16:33 griffjon thanks guys 03:14 russ hi paul 03:14 paul hi russ 03:16 paul the KohaCon will should be a success... 03:17 paul at least for May 3rd => we may need a larger room than expected... 03:17 russ awesome 03:17 russ yes it has generated alot of interest 03:17 paul i'm waiting for the list from Ineo, but i'm "afraid" that the 30 places won't be enough... 03:17 russ do you want me to put up the "Full House" sign on the website and take down the registration form? 03:18 osmoze bonjour 03:18 paul mmm, no. 03:18 paul because there are plenty of places free for May 2nd. 03:18 paul and I'll request a larger room for 3rd 03:18 paul + some libraries like SAN Ouest Provence plans to be *5*. 03:19 paul if we get full, i'll request that only 2 or 3 come ! 03:19 osmoze paul, c est bon, j ai l autorisation pour venir :) 03:19 russ :-) 03:19 paul + few other libraries coming with 2 ppl. 03:20 paul osmoze : great, waiting for your registration at conference.mai06@koha-fr.org => someone at Ineo take care of the registrations. 03:20 paul osmoze: alone or with sandrine ? 03:21 osmoze alone :( because she will be in exam) 04:15 paul osmoze: l'inscription pour le 2 est franchement superflue, amha. mais tu fais comme tu veux ! 06:19 paul yo, pierrick top commiter on head this week ;-) 06:19 chris :-) 06:19 paul hi chris 06:19 chris hes a committing machine :) 06:19 paul still not in bed ? 06:19 chris hi paul, just got your email 06:19 chris not yet, friday night, I can sleep in tomorrow 06:20 paul (lucky man : with 3 guys at home, wake up at 7:30 every day that god makes !) 06:20 chris hehe 06:20 paul are you a javascript warlord ? 06:20 chris not me 06:21 chris bob at katipo is our resident javascript guru 06:21 chris :) 06:22 paul and almost killed the addbiblio-cloneTag troll. 06:22 chris have you ever seen monty python paul? 06:22 paul nope 06:22 paul but I know who they are. 06:23 chris the joke i was going to make wont be funny without seeing it :) 06:26 chris im hoping to do some commits tomorrow, I have some code from Tumer to merge in and commit 06:26 paul chris : do you still have libraries with MARC=OFF ? 06:26 chris yes 06:27 chris 2 06:27 chris HLT, and Rangitikei District Library 06:27 paul no way to switch to MARC=ON ? 06:27 paul the first & 2nd libraries using koha isn't it ? 06:27 chris they dont want to see the MARC .. they are happy its there in the background, but they dont want to see it 06:28 chris Rangitikei only went live last year, the second public library in NZ 06:28 paul but with MARC=ON & hide_marc=ON they won't see any MARC tags/labels. 06:28 chris ohhh 06:28 chris ill try that 06:28 chris they are both running 2.2.5 now 06:28 paul they will just see descriptions. 06:28 paul & no indicators or any other marc things. 06:28 chris ill demo it for them and see if they like it 06:29 chris they both use Full Acquisitions 06:29 paul that's not a problem I think 06:29 paul (for marc=on i mean) 06:29 chris we should have the third NZ public in a few months .. they are converting at the moment 06:29 chris public library I mean 06:29 paul how many are there in NZ ? 06:30 russ 2 public so far 06:30 chris 2 public libraries, lots of smaller ones 06:30 chris and specialist libraries 06:30 paul hi russ. 06:30 paul (hi again i mean) 06:30 chris paul: ill try that on their test sites and they can take a look and see if they like it 06:31 paul with tabs they should be a little troubled 06:31 paul but link this with some authorities, and they may be convinced. 06:31 chris right 06:31 russ paul do you have a speaker to do the first talk yet on day 1? 06:32 paul not yet. 06:32 paul I contacted 3 guys, and all of them declined. 06:32 paul :-( 06:32 russ oh dear 06:32 paul I don't have any more ideas. 06:33 russ i guess one of us could so something - but that isnt really what you are aiming for is it? 06:33 paul right. 06:34 paul + I think it would be better to have something in french for this part. 06:34 paul otherwise, we would have too much english. 06:34 russ oh buy us i mean someone within the community 06:34 russ so you :-) 06:34 paul :-) 06:35 paul chris: i'll commit some things (on rel_2_2) that needs a little bit of javascript. i'll explain on koha-devel what is still to do. 06:36 chris excellent 06:36 paul if you could take care of it, that would be fine, I don't see how to solve my problem 06:36 chris bob reads koha-devel so he might have some suggestions 06:36 chris right, ill get bob to take a look 06:36 paul (& i'm a dummy at javascript...) 06:36 chris yeah, im bad at it too 06:37 paul time to go for some lunch (almors 2PM...) 06:38 chris bon appetit 06:40 paul chris: how many lbraries do you have (as customer i mean) 06:40 chris good question 06:40 chris i think about 6 or 7 06:40 chris lets see 06:41 paul (as NZ is a "small" country, so I was wondering if you have only a few, many, and how much it is from the total) 06:41 chris lianza, eeo, fred hollows, hlt, rdl, opus, lgnz 06:41 russ lianza 06:41 russ oop you had lianza 06:41 chris unido 06:41 chris but they arent in NZ 06:42 chris eesi 06:42 chris they are in australia 06:42 chris hmm we have more than we thought I guess, but only 4 or 5 we do regular work on 06:43 chris when the 3rd public library comes along .. koha will be in 3 public libraries in nz .. which is a pretty good amount 06:43 chris im not sure how many public libraries there are .. but there arent that many 06:48 chris i think there are a couple of other libraries we have helped too, special libraries but I cant remember their names 06:49 chris oh, philanthropy australia 08:43 osmoze paul K 08:43 osmoze ? 08:45 admin hey all 08:46 kyle I was wondering if anyone could help me walk through comitting my template to cvs 08:46 kyle I tried connection but I get an error message. 08:46 kyle I'm trying : cvs -z3 -d kylemhall@cvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/koha co -r rel_2_2 koha 08:47 kyle and I get this in return: Permission denied (publickey). 09:07 pierrick kyle, I'm going to help you :-) 09:10 pierrick kyle, did CVS asked a password when trying to checkout? 09:23 kados paul: are you here? 09:24 kados paul: I found another bug with rel_2_2 (I think) 09:24 ToinS kados: paul isn't here for the moment.... 09:24 kados kyle: log into cvs 09:24 kados kyle: https://savannah.nongnu.org/my/admin/editsshkeys.php 09:24 ToinS he 'll come back soon 09:24 kados kyle: you'll need to put your public key in there 09:24 kados ToinS: thanks! 09:25 kados ToinS: do you know when? 09:25 ToinS i don't know... sorry 09:27 pierrick hi kados 09:30 kados hi pierrick 09:31 hdl hi kados. Did you receive my mail for kohadocs ? 09:36 kados hdl: yes, but I don't have write access to kohadocs 09:36 kados hdl: send it to stephen 09:36 kados hdl: shedges [at] skemotah.com 09:37 pierrick kados, I'll test zebra-plugin early next week 09:37 kados w00t 09:37 pierrick (and tell you all what's wrong ;-) 09:37 kados hehe, sounds good 09:38 pierrick (or correct by myself if I understand the backend 09:38 pierrick kados, you didn't tell me if the wiki conversion was satisfaying 09:39 kados pierrick: it didn't work at all for me 09:39 kados pierrick: wiki.koha.org 09:39 pierrick what does not work at all ? 09:39 kados pierrick: I can't view any pages 09:39 pierrick :-) 09:40 pierrick wait a second 09:40 kados sure 09:41 pierrick better ? 09:46 pierrick kados, can you make sure file data/changes.log is writable? 09:46 kados sure 09:47 kados pierrick: ok, it's writable 09:47 kados pierrick: better! 09:47 kados pierrick: thanks! 09:49 pierrick OK, chmod seems to have worked :-) 09:50 kados unfortunately today I have several appointments outside of Athens 09:50 kados so I must leave now 09:50 pierrick it's an old snapshot of the wiki, so when you're ready to switch, I'll rerun my migration tool 09:50 kados (I may be back in several hours ) 09:50 kados pierrick: ok, maybe next week we will switch 09:50 pierrick no pb kados, have a nic week-end, read you on monday 09:50 kados pierrick: thanks again! 09:51 pierrick kados, thanks to you, I only participate to the community :-) 10:00 paul osmoze: i'm back 10:09 osmoze can i phone to you paul ? 10:09 paul yep 10:09 paul osmoze: yep 10:10 osmoze do you have a new phone ? Because i think i phone to your house 10:10 osmoze (repondeur^^) 10:10 paul 04 91 31 45 19. Faut lire la liste infos correctement ;-) 10:10 paul (déménagement annoncé en décembre !!!) 10:15 kados paul: got a second? 10:15 kados paul: I need to leave in 5 minutes 10:15 paul (on phone, but then yes) 10:17 paul kados: write your request 10:17 kados paul: having trouble with authorities 10:17 kados paul: i created a bulkauthimport.pl script 10:17 kados paul: that seems to work perfectly 10:18 kados paul: bibs have link in $9 of a tag and auths have link in $9 of a tag 10:18 kados paul: http://smfplopac.liblime.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl 10:18 kados paul: search for PERSONAL NAME 10:19 kados paul: MacDonald, Alan 10:19 kados paul: (MacDonald, Alan is a real author in the collection) 10:19 kados paul: results come back fine 10:19 kados paul: but the # of bibs does not appear 10:20 kados paul: and the link doesn't work 10:20 kados paul: I just thought of something 10:20 kados paul: is it required to set up authorities in the biblio framework before they will work for searching? 10:22 kados paul: that was my question ... but now I must leave 10:22 paul ok, i'll answer by mail 10:22 paul (still on phone) 10:22 kados paul: thanks! 10:22 kados bye all 10:22 paul i'll be away on monday-<wed 10:35 pierrick hdl, see you on monday :-) I'm leaving too 10:36 pierrick (I mean, I'm leaving office now)