Time Nick Message 19:08 chris sure would 19:07 kados but either way, it'd be a cool feature to have 19:07 kados not sure whether it uses SIP or something else ... 19:04 chris everything else it pretty much does now 19:04 kados right 19:04 chris i remember thinking the tricky bit was person belonging to multiple institutions and choosing which one when they borrow .. that was the thing that would involve quite a bit of changes 19:04 kados cool 19:03 chris ah yes, i made some comments on that to him i think he has to read thru and work out an estimate 19:01 chris (auckland that is) 19:00 kados ahh ... 19:00 chris hes in dorkland at a wedding 19:00 kados russaway: you about? 17:38 owen Fancy that... crashed Firefox 17:15 chris any way we can make it simple to display the data in multiple ways, so the library can choose is all good with me 17:15 chris sweet 17:15 kados owen: I'm browsing the backends.php file ... what am I looking for? 17:14 kados http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/ 17:13 kados which will give us some specific classes like title,author,subject,series,keyword 17:12 kados well ISBD is great for MARC ... for nonmarc we may want to look at MODS 17:12 kados for instance ... remember we talked about using ISBD? 17:12 kados there's a lot of good stuff we can use here ... just design wise 17:12 kados hehe 17:12 kados basically whiteboarding the whole system 17:12 owen In the bosom of the enemy!! ;) 17:12 chris cool 17:12 kados yep ... Evergreen (PINES) 17:11 chris liblime work? 17:11 chris ahh cool 17:11 kados for the week ... get back Fri morning 17:11 chris hell yeah :) 17:11 kados things busy enough for you? :-) 17:11 kados hey chris ... welcome home :-) 17:11 chris guys even 17:11 chris hi gues 17:10 owen Yes 17:10 kados owen: you around? 14:49 paul ok, I leave, see you tomorrow. 14:44 paul savannah : excatly 3 hours to deliver a mail :-( 14:44 paul i thought it was important to reorganise things BEFORE coding new features. otherwise, it will never be done ! 14:43 owen I like the way you've been reorganizing. I think it will be a great improvement 14:42 paul (i'll try to work on cataloguing tomorrow. It's badly broken atm because I reorganize directories... acqui.simple for cataloguing is quite silly ;-) ) 14:42 paul do you have some time to spend on prog ? 14:42 owen Then let's try that 14:42 paul i leave now. I've commited members templates. 14:41 paul nope 14:39 owen Is there a reason why the div's shouldn't be named something meaningful? something related to their function? 14:37 owen I don't think there's a note attribute 14:37 paul (we could have <div id="borraccount1" note="this bloc is for...">) 14:36 paul isn't there a "note" in HTML ? 14:35 paul something like templatename + an id 14:35 paul because, for example, in member detail page, there are some logic informations : borrower, reserves, pays... 14:35 owen yes, the second sounds like a convincing reason...but how would the div's be named? 14:34 paul (the 2nd being more important I bet) 14:34 paul * to help understanding logical blocs when a designer creates it's own set of tmpl 14:34 paul * if someone just want to CSS the prog templates 14:34 paul they could be useful in 2 cases : 14:33 owen do we need the <div>'s if the template is going to be only for programmers? 14:25 paul and help desiging a CSS 14:25 paul that would regroup blocs logically 14:25 paul what about adding in prog a <div id="XX"> instead of the KOHA id="XX" trick. 14:24 paul owen, a question/suggestion : 14:19 paul (now there is one) 14:19 paul (reload, you may have loaded it when it was deleted) 14:19 owen I think the specs say that your table structure has to be <table><thead><tfoot><tbody>. the <tfoot> renders at the base of the table. But I don't see an opening <tfoot> in that example link. 14:15 paul for example 14:15 paul http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/boraccount.pl?bornum=12 14:14 owen I've had problems with it too. Do you have an example page? 14:14 paul (for instance, i just have removed the tfoot tags 14:14 paul the w3c validator always report an error. do you know how to solve this ? 14:14 paul owen, i've some problems with tfoot : 14:13 paul with as little tags as possible. 14:13 paul I tried to do as clean HTML as possible. 14:13 paul mmm... that was not my intention ;-) 14:12 owen ...which is good idea! 14:12 owen paul, it looks like your prog templates are really an attempt to make a new default template that is more flexible for customization 14:08 kados owen: kronolith working? 14:08 kados owen: what's up? 14:06 paul and begin to be not happy... 14:06 paul yes. I've spend more than 2 full days on this... 14:05 kados paul: (strange about ZOOM) 14:05 kados paul: great news! 14:05 paul that's why i'm not sure it is useful ! 14:05 paul I say that inveriant trick is useful only if ... 14:04 paul nope 14:04 owen So paul, you say the prog templates would only work if "template designers plan not to modify invariant blocs, even for some spelling reasons (like "book bag" in NPL template where default says "basket" 13:58 paul however, the bad news is that ZOOM still don't work for me :-( 13:57 paul he's a developper, enjoying OSS, knowing a little Perl. 13:57 paul joshua : a good news, that's only 90% sure : a french studend (22 years) will work with me for 2 months (apr-may), and could continue during summer 13:56 owen Yes 13:56 kados owen: I've got a bit of time ... are you around? 12:52 kados yep 12:52 paul (however CVS is highly faster on savannah) 12:52 kados seems to be :-) 12:52 paul yes it seems. 12:51 owen worse than sourceforge? 12:51 paul (kados : i've sent another message. finally i'm ok with prog. hélas, savannah is really too slow at delivering mails :-( ) 12:50 owen paul: I'm grabbing the latest from CVS to take a look 12:50 owen kados: ping me when you get some time 12:50 paul (phone ring) 12:50 kados I'd like to get some feedback from Owen and katipo designers 12:49 kados I did read your message paul 12:49 kados I'm in a meeting this morning 12:49 kados hi guys 12:44 paul but this could work only if the designers uses them, thus the warning & my question : i'm not sure it's useable idea... 12:43 paul the idea beiing to help template designers to update their templates. 12:43 paul those invariant are not template related but invariant whatever the template. 12:43 paul as many as needed. 12:43 paul the idea could be to have "invariant sections" in a template. 12:43 owen I'm not sure I understand about the id="1" and id="2" 12:40 paul (insecure=ON, so no auth needed) 12:40 paul http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/acqui-home.pl 12:40 paul if you want to test acquisitions : 12:38 paul (& just commited xhtml valid working templates for acquisition... almost 3 hours !) 12:38 owen No, I just sat down to my computer for the first time today 12:38 paul finally I'm OK with prog. 12:37 paul (the today one I mean) 12:37 owen About the prog templates? Yes 12:37 owen Hi paul 12:37 paul (did you read my mail) 12:37 paul hello owen