Time  Nick  Message
19:08 chris sure would
19:07 kados but either way, it'd be a cool feature to have
19:07 kados not sure whether it uses SIP or something else ...
19:04 chris everything else it pretty much does now
19:04 kados right
19:04 chris i remember thinking the tricky bit was person belonging to multiple institutions and choosing which one when they borrow .. that was the thing that would involve quite a bit of changes
19:04 kados cool
19:03 chris ah yes, i made some comments on that to him i think he has to read thru and work out an estimate
19:01 chris (auckland that is)
19:00 kados ahh ...
19:00 chris hes in dorkland at a wedding
19:00 kados russaway: you about?
17:38 owen  Fancy that... crashed Firefox
17:15 chris any way we can make it simple to display the data in multiple ways, so the library can choose is all good with me
17:15 chris sweet
17:15 kados owen: I'm browsing the backends.php file ... what am I looking for?
17:14 kados http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/
17:13 kados which will give us some specific classes like title,author,subject,series,keyword
17:12 kados well ISBD is great for MARC ... for nonmarc we may want to look at MODS
17:12 kados for instance ... remember we talked about using ISBD?
17:12 kados there's a lot of good stuff we can use here ... just design wise
17:12 kados hehe
17:12 kados basically whiteboarding the whole system
17:12 owen  In the bosom of the enemy!! ;)
17:12 chris cool
17:12 kados yep ... Evergreen (PINES)
17:11 chris liblime work?
17:11 chris ahh cool
17:11 kados for the week ... get back Fri morning
17:11 chris hell yeah :)
17:11 kados things busy enough for you? :-)
17:11 kados hey chris ... welcome home :-)
17:11 chris guys even
17:11 chris hi gues
17:10 owen  Yes
17:10 kados owen: you around?
14:49 paul  ok, I leave, see you tomorrow.
14:44 paul  savannah : excatly 3 hours to deliver a mail :-(
14:44 paul  i thought it was important to reorganise things BEFORE coding new features. otherwise, it will never be done !
14:43 owen  I like the way you've been reorganizing.  I think it will be a great improvement
14:42 paul  (i'll try to work on cataloguing tomorrow. It's badly broken atm because I reorganize directories... acqui.simple for cataloguing is quite silly ;-) )
14:42 paul  do you have some time to spend on prog ?
14:42 owen  Then let's try that
14:42 paul  i leave now. I've commited members templates.
14:41 paul  nope
14:39 owen  Is there a reason why the div's shouldn't be named something meaningful?  something related to their function?
14:37 owen  I don't think there's a note attribute
14:37 paul  (we could have <div id="borraccount1" note="this bloc is for...">)
14:36 paul  isn't there a "note" in HTML ?
14:35 paul  something like templatename + an id
14:35 paul  because, for example, in member detail page, there are some logic informations : borrower, reserves, pays...
14:35 owen  yes, the second sounds like a convincing reason...but how would the div's be named?
14:34 paul  (the 2nd being more important I bet)
14:34 paul  * to help understanding logical blocs when a designer creates it's own set of tmpl
14:34 paul  * if someone just want to CSS the prog templates
14:34 paul  they could be useful in 2 cases :
14:33 owen  do we need the <div>'s if the template is going to be only for programmers?
14:25 paul  and help desiging a CSS
14:25 paul  that would regroup blocs logically
14:25 paul  what about adding in prog a <div id="XX"> instead of the KOHA id="XX" trick.
14:24 paul  owen, a question/suggestion :
14:19 paul  (now there is one)
14:19 paul  (reload, you may have loaded it when it was deleted)
14:19 owen  I think the specs say that your table structure has to be <table><thead><tfoot><tbody>. the <tfoot> renders at the base of the table. But I don't see an opening <tfoot> in that example link.
14:15 paul  for example
14:15 paul  http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/boraccount.pl?bornum=12
14:14 owen  I've had problems with it too.  Do you have an example page?
14:14 paul  (for instance, i just have removed the tfoot tags
14:14 paul  the w3c validator always report an error. do you know how to solve this ?
14:14 paul  owen, i've some problems with tfoot :
14:13 paul  with as little tags as possible.
14:13 paul  I tried to do as clean HTML as possible.
14:13 paul  mmm... that was not my intention ;-)
14:12 owen  ...which is  good idea!
14:12 owen  paul, it looks like your prog templates are really an attempt to make a new default template that is more flexible for customization
14:08 kados owen: kronolith working?
14:08 kados owen: what's up?
14:06 paul  and begin to be not happy...
14:06 paul  yes. I've spend more than 2 full days on this...
14:05 kados paul: (strange about ZOOM)
14:05 kados paul: great news!
14:05 paul  that's why i'm not sure it is useful !
14:05 paul  I say that inveriant trick is useful only if ...
14:04 paul  nope
14:04 owen  So paul, you say the prog templates would only work if "template designers plan not to modify invariant blocs, even for some spelling reasons (like "book bag" in NPL template where default says "basket"
13:58 paul  however, the bad news is that ZOOM still don't work for me :-(
13:57 paul  he's a developper, enjoying OSS, knowing a little Perl.
13:57 paul  joshua : a good news, that's only 90% sure : a french studend (22 years) will work with me for 2 months (apr-may), and could continue during summer
13:56 owen  Yes
13:56 kados owen: I've got a bit of time ... are you around?
12:52 kados yep
12:52 paul  (however CVS is highly faster on savannah)
12:52 kados seems to be :-)
12:52 paul  yes it seems.
12:51 owen  worse than sourceforge?
12:51 paul  (kados : i've sent another message. finally i'm ok with prog. hélas, savannah is really too slow at delivering mails :-( )
12:50 owen  paul: I'm grabbing the latest from CVS to take a look
12:50 owen  kados: ping me when you get some time
12:50 paul  (phone ring)
12:50 kados I'd like to get some feedback from Owen and katipo designers
12:49 kados I did read your message paul
12:49 kados I'm in a meeting this morning
12:49 kados hi guys
12:44 paul  but this could work only if the designers uses them, thus the warning & my question : i'm not sure it's useable idea...
12:43 paul  the idea beiing to help template designers to update their templates.
12:43 paul  those invariant are not template related but invariant whatever the template.
12:43 paul  as many as needed.
12:43 paul  the idea could be to have "invariant sections" in a template.
12:43 owen  I'm not sure I understand about the id="1" and id="2"
12:40 paul  (insecure=ON, so no auth needed)
12:40 paul  http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/acqui/acqui-home.pl
12:40 paul  if you want to test acquisitions :
12:38 paul  (& just commited xhtml valid working templates for acquisition... almost 3 hours !)
12:38 owen  No, I just sat down to my computer for the first time today
12:38 paul  finally I'm OK with prog.
12:37 paul  (the today one I mean)
12:37 owen  About the prog templates? Yes
12:37 owen  Hi paul
12:37 paul  (did you read my mail)
12:37 paul  hello owen