Time  Nick      Message
18:00 paul      bye bye everybody, have a nice time hacking Koha. I go to bed & won't be there until friday.
17:53 kados     all of the badly translated features ;-)
17:53 kados     (maybe refresh page, I just added some stuff)
17:52 kados     yes
17:52 kados     I have not decided yet whether the new OPAC will be _just a Z39.50 client_ or whether that will be separate
17:52 paul      about "AN" sponsor. Does it include SAN for some features ?
17:52 paul      ok.
17:52 kados     it should be
17:52 paul      is it no more on the roadmap ?
17:52 kados     yep
17:52 paul      to query multiple catalogue at once.
17:51 paul      we spoke of a z3950 client in OPAC
17:51 kados     :-)
17:51 paul      (mine is not here today ;-) )
17:51 kados     ahh ... tomorrow then
17:51 paul      (10PM here, probably with wife & daughter)
17:51 kados     sure
17:51 paul      another question :
17:51 kados     |hdl|: you around? ;-)
17:51 kados     great!
17:51 paul      (including "opac ala yahoo")
17:50 paul      kados : i've no time, but feel free to bug |hdl| for completion of your roadmap, as I have some other ideas that are already on work
17:19 chris     ahh right
17:19 indradg   or rather web apps... for example i need to embed it within PHP based intranet
17:18 indradg   mostly used for embedding rich reports invokeable from webpages
17:17 chris     sounds interesting
17:17 paul      Its main purpose is to help creating page oriented, ready to print documents in a simple and flexible manner.
17:17 paul      It is entirely written in Java and can be used in a variety of Java enabled applications, including J2EE or Web applications, to generate dynamic content.
17:16 chris     but now i want to know what it is
17:16 chris     not me
17:15 indradg   hi... asking a very off-topic question... anyone here has used JasperReports?
17:11 kados     cool
17:05 rach      hopefully today we'll be doing a "the  mailing list is back" news today
17:04 kados     rach: it might be easier to say, Perl-ZOOM is finished, thanks to contributions from Crawford County, etc.
17:04 rach      yep that's fine
17:04 kados     rach: mike taylor will be releasing Perl-ZOOm publically next week sometime ... should we just wait until then?
16:59 rach      so I get all the names etc right :-)
16:58 kados     sure ... I'll do that now
16:58 kados     ahh
16:58 rach      oh no - stuff for a news release
16:58 kados     the roadmap?
16:58 kados     gist of what?
16:58 rach      are you able to send me the gist of it joshua
16:58 chris     ahh right
16:57 kados     legally it's CCFLS that is sponsoring Perl-ZOOM, etc.
16:57 kados     so ... I guess I should mention ... MEadville PL is just one PL in a system ... the Crawford County Federated Library System
16:57 paul      hello.
16:57 kados     hey rach
16:56 rach      howdy
16:56 kados     hehe
16:56 russ      dang my vote is late but i would have voted wiki too
16:56 kados     ok ... wiki it is then ;-)
16:55 chris     i like the wiki
16:55 kados     is the wiki the best place to host the roadmap? Does anyone have any other ideas for how to organize it?
16:54 kados     I'm gonna try to work on the roadmap this afternoon
16:54 paul      + 2.2.5 that should arrive for the end of the year (nothing important in there, just to announce)
16:54 paul      + move to savannah
16:53 kados     yea ... news release about Koha 3.0 moving ahead would be good
16:53 paul      wow, congrats for you.
16:53 chris     should we do a news release about that too?
16:53 kados     no announcement yet
16:53 paul      announced somewhere ?
16:53 kados     contract signed, first check sent, etc. ;-)
16:53 kados     yes ... official
16:53 paul      is it official joshua ?
16:52 paul      yay !
16:52 chris     yay for her
16:52 chris     ahh excellent :-)
16:52 kados     chris: she's Meadville PL ... who's sponsoring Perl-ZOOM
16:52 kados     hey there
16:52 paul      (russ too)
16:52 chris     quick question ... who is cindy murdock?
16:52 paul      'morning chris
16:51 chris     heya lads
16:51 kados     hehe
16:51 paul      and me too too
16:50 kados     me too ;-)
16:46 russ      cool - i'll also need to change some links etc
16:46 kados     yep ... planning to do that
16:46 russ      hiya - with this move to savannah - would you be able to do a short write up for the koha.org news
16:45 kados     russ: yep
16:44 russ      kados: are you still around?
14:09 paul      nick paul
14:08 paul_away back on the chanel
13:43 paul      ;-)
13:43 vivek     sorry by koha-devel i meant koha-cvs ( my mistake).
13:43 paul      yes, but no commits on head since some days, and i'll take care of 2.2 where applicable
13:42 paul      koha-cvs is for commit mails !
13:42 vivek     paul: of course we will have to refer back to sf.net for all commit info before the savannah migration.
13:42 paul      koha-devel is to write mail
13:42 paul      oups, no please !
13:41 vivek     paul: What can do is create a new koha-devel list ( by requesting a savannah admin to create one) and then use it for get all further commit info.
13:41 paul      that's how I understood things.
13:40 paul      everything is writen here ;-)
13:40 vivek     paul: Let me explain that quote, all the present koha-devel archives stay on the sf.net and we can do nothing about them or link them to savannah.
13:40 kados     ok ... thx
13:40 paul      (beucler)
13:39 paul      you already know (mail nov, 5, from sylvain beuclair)
13:39 kados     paul: name/email?
13:38 kados     paul: who have you been dealing with?
13:38 kados     ok ... I'll contact the admins
13:38 vivek     kados: only savannah admins can create mailing lists on the savannah. You can only request them. Mailing list creation by the respective project admins are presently disab;ed.
13:38 paul      (from vivek)
13:38 paul      <quote> just move the CVS to Savannah, ask a savannah admin to set up a developers mailing list and all new commits will be forwarded to the developers</quote> ?
13:37 paul      (koha-devel, koha-translate, koha-win32, koha-cvs ...)
13:37 kados     paul: did they already create them? or is that what I'm supposed to be doing? ;-
13:37 paul      (as we have 6 on sf iirc)
13:37 paul      so we had to ask savannah admins to create many mailing lists
13:36 paul      - would be more complex for users.
13:36 paul      - sf has many problems with mail delivery
13:36 paul      vivek/kados : the idea with moving is to have everything on savannah
13:35 kados     ok ... that sounds like a good plan ... and we can add all the koha-cvs@SF.net to koha-cvs@savannah.nongnu.org
13:35 vivek     kados: All the old commits can be referred to the koha-devel on SF.Net.
13:35 vivek     kados: wont be a problem, just move the CVS to Savannah, ask a savannah admin to set up a developers mailing list and all new commits will be forwarded to the developers. Let us for the time keep the other mailing lists on SF.Net
13:34 kados     paul: so we need to decide what to do eh?
13:33 vivek     kados: yep, that could be problem, how could savannah commits be recorded on the SF.Net mailing lists..
13:32 kados     paul: or do you want to move the lists now too?
13:32 kados     vivek: ok ... in that case, I guess we need to have the commits to savannah start mailing to koha-cvs@sourceforge.net
13:32 vivek     kados: I know, *only* savannah admins can add new mailing lists for projects.
13:31 kados     vivek: from the 'add new mailing list' screen
13:31 vivek     kados: At present i would suggest that you only move the repository and point to the present koha mailing list(s) via the project mailing list link on the savannh.
13:31 kados     vivek: I'm getting: "Automatic mailing list creation is temporarily not available. "
13:30 kados     paul: am I correct?
13:30 kados     vivek: I thought we were moving the lists AND the repository
13:29 vivek     kados: you just want to move the lists and keep sourceforge as the cvs repository ?
13:29 kados     vivek: I'm confused ... I thought we were moving list hosting from sourceforge to savannah
13:29 vivek     paul: Yes, Savannah sends mails on commits.
13:28 vivek     kados: I don't think you have to add the members manually. You need to request the savannah administrators to add a link to the present Koha mailing lists at the URL https://savannah.nongnu.org/mail/admin/index.php?group=koha&add_list=1
13:27 kados     vivek: what's involved in becoming a gnu project?
13:27 kados     vivek: looks like auto-creation of mailing lists doesn't work
13:20 vivek     I am back
12:49 kados     vivek: I'd like to get the mailing list moved today
12:49 kados     vivek: great ... thanks!
12:49 vivek     Will be back in say 20 mins or so.
12:49 owen      Hi kados
12:48 vivek     kados: I'll take a break for supper.
12:48 kados     morning owen
12:47 kados     koha-cvs is used to alert all of us whenever someone commits ... sends us a diff, etc.
12:46 kados     is that up to date?
12:46 kados     from the FAQ it looks like it's difficult to get a email for each commit
12:46 kados     couple of other questions:
12:46 kados     ok ... so I guess I'll need to add each list, then add all the members manually?
12:45 vivek     kados: not that i can think of, we can keep the old mailing lists and point to them using savannah.
12:45 kados     or are we stuck 'starting over'?
12:45 kados     is there any way to move over the archives as well as the user list in an automated fashion?
12:44 vivek     kados: Hi
12:44 kados     hi vivek
12:44 paul      hi vivek. Yes, what's next is moving mailing lists, but kados will ask you about this
12:41 vivek     indradg: hello
12:41 vivek     paul: any luck on the savannah ?
12:41 vivek     Hello