Time Nick Message 12:12 kados paul around? 12:13 kados probably not being the weekend and all 12:13 paul for a few minuts only. 12:13 kados ahh ... great! 12:13 paul hello joshua 12:13 kados quick question 12:13 kados hi :-) 12:13 paul (working today, then leaving for 3 days with family. TGV in less than 1 hour) 12:13 paul reading. 12:13 kados for the MARC import to reservoir ... I have found that some records that do not have ISBNs do not import ... have you found this also? 12:14 kados (ooh ... have fun ;-)) 12:14 paul yep. 12:14 kados re: MARC import to reservoir ... is there a way to avoid this? 12:14 paul worked in 2.0, but not in 2.2 12:15 paul yes but no. if we revert to 2.0, then another annoying problem comes around. 12:15 paul could you open a bug pls. i'll try to fix it correctly. 12:15 kados sure ... here's an idea ... 12:15 kados what if there is no isbn found ... so Koha automatically puts one in ... 12:16 kados ok ... I'll bug it 12:17 paul have a nice trip to san diego. is it for fun or work ? 12:18 kados 100% fun this time ;-) 12:18 paul so, have a funny week ! 12:18 kados hehe 12:19 kados ok ... bug report sent 12:19 paul hello owen. 12:19 owen Hi paul and kados. 12:32 kados owen: you working at PPL today? 12:32 owen Yes 12:33 kados I'm about to head to athens myself 14:55 indradg kados, hi... yes I have noticed the bug triggering for non-ISBN MARC records 15:05 owen kados: are you going to volunteer in Sunny Pasadena? :) 15:05 chris morning 15:06 owen Hi chris 15:06 chris owen: do you have an rss reader handy? 15:06 kados morning chris 15:06 owen chris: yes 15:06 kados indradg: yep ... it's a pretty big problem ;-) 15:06 kados indradg: as there are loads of records without ISBNs 15:06 chris http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 15:06 kados chris hacking on Koha rss? 15:07 chris try a search 15:07 chris then add &subsearch=rss to the end of the url 15:08 kados bloglines reports no feeds .. 15:08 kados not found via browser 15:08 chris eg 15:08 chris http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?op=do_search&subsearch=rss&type=opac&marclist=&and_or=and&excluding=&operator=contains&value=dogs&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 15:09 kados 3hmm ... 15:09 kados that's a file ... for downloading 15:09 chris yeah the header is wrong 15:09 kados chris: I should send you my opensearch proxy ... might be a cleaner way of doing rss in Koha 15:09 chris but i get a feed if i punch that into bloglines 15:09 kados it needs some modularization though 15:09 kados ok 15:10 chris its pretty easy 15:10 chris you just make a rss template 15:10 kados http://liblime.com/opensearchproxy.html 15:10 kados seen that? 15:10 chris and tell it to use that 15:10 chris im just not fully up on rss syntax 15:11 kados oops ... 15:11 owen When I plug that URL into Bloglines it works great. But yeah, my browser wanted to download it 15:11 kados http://liblime.com/opensearchportal.html 15:11 kados well and rss has the whole versioning problem 15:12 chris i dont think its really a problem 15:12 chris just pick a version and conform to that :) 15:12 owen Agreed 15:12 kados so what you've got is a search returning rss results ... which is exactly what opensearch is ... 15:13 chris yeah all i did was make an rss template 15:13 kados I wrote a similar opensearch compatible one that uses Net::Z3950 15:13 kados so it works on any Z39.50 source 15:13 chris you can do it for every single page of koha 15:13 kados ahh ... neat ...so borrowers pages too? 15:13 chris exactly 15:14 kados that's useful ;-) 15:14 chris just need to make the templates, and you remember the change language button 15:15 chris could use something like that,except it says rss feed of this page 15:15 chris just was playing around while im watching nz play great britain in rugby league 15:16 kados chris: here's mine: http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/opensearch?q=dogs 15:17 chris cool 15:17 chris i was just thinking (as u do early on sunday morning) 15:17 chris "its all just templates" 15:18 kados yep :-) 15:18 kados chris: http://opensearch.a9.com/ 15:18 chris so koha could easy do .91 .93, 1.00, 2.00 8731.4 whatever version 15:19 kados sign up for that ... and then add nelsonville to your 'columns' 15:19 chris ahh i remember you showing me this its very cool 15:20 kados so it's insanely easy to implement an opensearch portal similar to a9s 15:20 chris yep 15:20 kados which is what liblime.com/opensearchportal.html is ... 15:20 kados it's a completely client-side portal in fact ... done in javascript 15:20 kados and using that we can add any opensearch source for federated searching 15:21 kados and complying to opensearch means that patrons can search our catalog in their favorite opensearcch portal ;-) 15:22 chris yep, the search was just an easy page to do a template for 15:22 kados yep ... 15:22 kados so is there an XML::Template? 15:23 chris i just wanted to do a "koha does rss for every page in the opac" 15:23 chris naw dont need it 15:23 kados how are you handleing XML through HTML::TEmplate? 15:23 kados just changing the header and encoding? 15:23 chris yeah 15:23 kados yea ... that's what I did too 15:24 kados just wanted to make sure I did it right ;-) 15:24 chris html::template is a bit of a misname 15:24 chris it doesnt care if its html or anything 15:24 kados so actually, it should be pretty easy to add a new set of XML templates 15:24 chris yep 15:24 kados then just check for them in the script 15:24 chris exactly 15:24 kados and walla ... rss or whatever 15:25 kados sweetness 15:25 chris thats the plan 15:25 kados owen: better get right on that ;-) 15:25 kados I wonder if it would be possible to write an XML DtD such that it would make the process of creating new templates easier 15:25 owen Hunh? Wha? 15:26 chris owen was talking about it the other day, and when i had to get up at 5.30am today, it came to me 15:26 kados i.e., all the changes are done in XML 15:26 kados so all a tempalte designer needs to do is see what xml exists and then modify the html template accordingly 15:26 kados or something ... xslt maybe? 15:27 chris dunno, but the search one is only about 15 lines 15:27 kados right 15:27 chris they should be pretty good to maintain 15:27 chris much simpler than html 15:27 kados hmmm ... brainstorming here ... 15:27 kados what if instead of PROG templates in HTML there were PROG templates in XML 15:28 kados couldn't we then use XSLT to convert them to XHTML? 15:28 chris in theory yep 15:28 kados and a proper dtd would allow anyone to design a template and display the fields however they wanted 15:29 kados and it could be 'versioned' so with every release of Koha there'd be updates to the DT 15:29 kados DTD even 15:29 chris hmmm 24-20 15:29 kados I wonder ... if we had that system going whether it'd be more complex or easier? 15:30 chris this is going to be close 15:30 kados hehe 15:30 chris depends how many ppl understand xml vs html 15:30 chris ditto 15:30 chris but then i dont know much html either :) 15:30 owen But surely I can learn in my copious free time? :) 15:44 kados http://particletree.com/notebook/xslt-roundup/ 15:45 owen Aw man, homework! 15:46 kados hehe ... the first link there is really good ... I'm reading it now 16:07 chris yay 42-26 .. i can go back to sleep now 16:11 owen The man's hardcore. 22:50 destinati Anyone have experience with the Z3950 code? 22:53 destinati Or specifically importing MARC 23:05 destinati Anyone out there? :) 23:11 destinati I have a crazy idea to get around the Z3950 problem on windows that just might work 23:11 destinati but I wanted to run it by someone that's familiar with Koha's code 23:35 kados woot! chris around? 23:36 kados just worked up the first working demo of an XMLHttpRequest marc editor that uses xslt to process the records 23:36 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/ 23:36 kados well ... can't edit just yet ;-) 23:36 kados but the search and display is working 23:36 kados this xslt stuff is really powerful 23:39 destinati I use XSLT quite a bit at work 23:40 destinati It's really nice if you have a XSLT debugger 23:40 destinati like Visual Studio 2005 23:42 destinati Kados? 23:46 kados yea ... I'm here 23:48 destinati :) I commend you 23:48 destinati Even though I run XP, I still use GVIM/VIM to edit text files 23:49 destinati I'm not familiar with your project, but if you have general XSLT questions I might be able to help 23:49 destinati I'm trying to find the most pain-free process to make it easy for librarians to import MARC data from the Library of Congress 23:50 destinati given that the server is running on an XP box (for a couple of reasons) 23:50 kados destinati: do you happen to know how I can do this? : 23:50 kados <input value=<xsl:value-of select="."/></input> 23:50 destinati no, you don't want to do that 23:51 destinati you need to create an xsl:attribute inside of the <input> tag 23:51 kados ahh 23:52 destinati <input> 23:52 kados (first day at xslt ;-)) 23:52 destinati <xsl:attribute name="value"><xsl:value-of select="."/></input> 23:52 destinati remember.. it has to be a valid XML document 23:52 destinati this is how XSLT gets around the issue 23:55 destinati Did you happen to write the Koha MARC add biblio function? :) 23:55 kados no ;-) 23:55 destinati I mean.. the web interface to it 23:55 kados destinati: http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/xsl/MARCEdit.xsl 23:55 kados this is throwing an error 23:56 destinati oops.. I forgot to close the attribute tag 23:56 destinati <xsl:attribute name="value"><xsl:value-of select="."/></xsl:attribute> 23:57 kados got it 23:57 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/ 23:57 kados this is the beginnings of an open-source MARC record retriever and editor ;-) 23:58 kados so you do a search (one term only) 23:58 destinati we might have similar goals 23:58 kados click on the results and you can view and edit the record ... 23:58 kados well it's really just an infant ;-) 23:58 kados destinati: what's your goal? 23:58 destinati I have to run Koha on Windows 23:59 destinati and I have a library of 1000+ books 23:59 kados http://athenscounty.lib.oh.us/wiki/doku.php?id=catalogingproject 23:59 destinati that need to be added to it 23:59 destinati and ideally I'd like to have a lot of volunteers simply go to a program 23:59 kados that's the description doc for the class that's working on this project 23:59 destinati type the ISBN 23:59 destinati and have Koha magically pull in all the data from the library of congress's MARCXML gateway 00:00 kados hmmm ... 00:00 kados so ... you know you can already do z39.50 searches right? 00:00 destinati On *nix 00:00 kados pull back records, import them, etc. 00:00 destinati the code doesn't seem to work on Windows 00:00 kados yea ... that's going to change real soon 00:00 kados it's because of Net::z3950 00:01 destinati I understand 00:01 kados which will soon be replaced by Perl-ZOOM 00:01 destinati or at least have read a bit about it 00:01 kados (which will remove dependency on perl Event module which is buggy on windows) 00:01 destinati how soon is soon? 00:01 kados the coding will begin on Nov 21 and end mid December 00:01 kados I know because I'm sponsoring it ;-) 00:02 destinati Sponsoring who? 00:02 destinati the class? 00:02 kados so ... it's complex 00:02 kados I own/operate http://liblime.com with some friends 00:02 destinati Ah. 00:03 kados we have a couple of contracts with libraries 00:03 kados and we're paying Index Data (http://indexdata.dk) to create Perl_ZOOM 00:03 kados :-) 00:03 destinati seems almost like an overkill 00:03 kados so the other part that's complex is that I'm also an employee of the Nelsonville Public Library SYstem 00:04 kados the sys admin in fact 00:04 destinati there is a very simple SOAP gateway to the LOC 00:04 kados and through NPL I'm working with an ohio university class to create a new MARC editor 00:04 destinati that will give you the full MARCXML of an ISBN 00:04 kados which is that catalogingproject wiki link above 00:04 kados not sure ... but that's pretty simple to do eh? 00:05 destinati that is what I was going to use.. and have a simple .NET application fill in the right textboxes on the add biblio form 00:05 destinati but that was going to be a hack 00:05 kados yea ... I'd wait around for Koha 3.0 00:05 kados where it'll be done right ;-) 00:06 kados should be ready first quarter of 2006 00:06 kados and if you want to sponsor anything (or hack on anything) please let us know 00:06 kados I'm the release manager 00:06 kados we can always use some more programmers ;-) 00:06 destinati well.. I've got an eager library project wanting to get their online catalog started 00:07 destinati so I might have to hack this until Koha 3.0 is available 00:07 kados so have you considered hosted solutions? 00:07 kados my company offers them :-) 00:07 kados here's one of our client's OPACs: 00:07 kados https://libcat.nbbc.edu 00:08 kados we've got a fiber-backbone server farm in seattle with three points of redundency :-) 00:08 destinati we don't have the budget for a recurring cost 00:08 kados gotcha 00:08 kados so nothing's cheaper than linux 00:09 kados going with wondows automatically locks you into recurring cost ;-) 00:09 destinati Sort of.. but not quite 00:09 kados If I were you I'd throw debian sarge on an older pentium, install Koha and walla ... 00:09 destinati the computer that runs Koha will also be used for things like Word, PowerPoint, Adobe Acrobat.. and part of a Windows 2000 domain 00:10 kados ahh ... 00:10 destinati and Debian and OpenOffice won't cut it 00:10 kados well ... use wine 00:10 destinati hehe 00:10 destinati The idea is to try it out on this box 00:10 kados I've got tons of windows programs installed 00:10 kados including world of warcraft ;-) 00:11 destinati and if it successful.. we'll eventually migrate to a linux box 00:11 kados cool 00:11 destinati in theory.. it should just be a matter of exporting the MySQL DB and importing it on the Linux box 00:11 kados well here's an idea 00:11 kados what if you used a third-part MARC editor for the time being 00:11 kados until KOha's is ready for windows 00:12 kados bookwhere is a good Z39.50 retrieval tool 00:12 kados and you can use TLC's editor fairly cheaply 00:12 kados the whole thing would cost less than $2K annually 00:13 destinati It'd be easier, but he project just doesn't have the budget 00:13 destinati we spent around $400 on the computer.. and all that's remaining is my volunteer time 00:13 kados yikes 00:14 destinati I'm not sure on the computer cost actually 00:14 kados last time I checked a single windows seat was around $400 00:14 destinati but it's a 2.8 GHz/512 MB RAM 00:14 destinati low end from Dell 00:14 kados not too bad 00:14 kados I run NPL on a 900Mhz ;-) 00:15 destinati I'm a software engineer at work 00:15 kados sweet ... where's that? 00:15 destinati so I'm not scared to write code 00:15 destinati especially when others might benefit 00:15 destinati I work at Raytheon 00:15 kados much experience with javascript? 00:16 kados question about xslt 00:16 destinati I do quite a bit with HTML, XML, XSLT, Databases, VB.NET, C#, C++ 00:16 kados nice 00:16 kados so say I've got that stylesheet above 00:16 kados and i want to make a bunch of inputs and labels for each tag/subfield in the doc 00:17 kados without having a huge stylesheet 00:17 destinati do you have a sample XML file? 00:17 kados is there a way to use the existing xml to generate the match? 00:17 kados ye 00:17 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/cgi-bin/search.cgi?searchtype=1034&searchbox=qwerty 00:18 kados that's an example ... but of course, since it's MARC it's wildly variable 00:18 kados so there's no telling what tags and subfields each record is going to have ahead of time 00:18 destinati ok, good.. you're using MARCXML 00:18 kados need to account for indicators and repeatability too ... and eventually authorities ... 00:19 kados yea 00:19 destinati what you want to do is make use of the xsl:for-each 00:19 destinati command 00:19 destinati so.. something like 00:20 destinati <xsl:for-each select="datafield"> 00:20 destinati then... inside of this you're in scope of a datafield tag 00:21 destinati you can then display the @tag 00:21 kados right ... 00:21 destinati you can use xsl:if's to test if the count(subfield/) > 0 00:21 destinati to see if you want to display subfields 00:21 kados sweet 00:22 destinati if so, you can display some subfield header info... 00:22 destinati There are several XML editors on Windows at least that do full XSLT intellisense 00:22 destinati which is very helpful when you're writing an XSL file 00:23 kados well ... I guess what I need is a good tutorial covering what's possible 00:23 destinati you can also use XPATH to see if that tag has been used previously in the document 00:23 kados neat ... from within xslt? 00:23 destinati and then from that you can modify your output to say something like "Repeat #3" 00:23 destinati absolutely 00:23 kados sweet! 00:23 kados wow ... this is like a whole new animal 00:23 destinati if you have multiple tags.. like 650's 00:24 kados I'm really excited ;-) 00:24 destinati I used XSLT to simplify a database program that generated HTML 00:24 destinati it cut the code down immensely 00:24 destinati now.. all the database does is spit out a XML file 00:24 destinati and the XSLT does a whole bunch of processing 00:24 kados yea ... this might be just what Koha needs 00:25 kados none of us have use XML that much 00:25 kados used that is 00:25 kados so how do I display @tag? 00:26 kados within datafield? 00:26 destinati remember that in XSLT, you find the value of any variable using select 00:26 destinati so.. 00:26 destinati if the context is the datafield node 00:26 destinati <xsl:value-of select="@tag"/> 00:26 kados sweet 00:27 destinati Ideally, Koha would have a web service oriented architecture.. 00:27 destinati that way you could use a lot of the tools to write simple interfaces to Koha 00:27 destinati using things like SOAP 00:28 destinati it sounds like a lot of buzzwords 00:28 destinati but it's not too bad 00:28 kados yep ... I grok soap 00:28 destinati I'd be all for Koha moving to a more XML approach :) 00:29 destinati at work, I use XML for data, XSLT for structure, and CSS for style 00:29 kados well I've got to give it some thought ... but I think it would streamline our template development process 00:29 destinati I'm not sure how you do that now 00:29 kados though it would add another layer and require another technology 00:29 kados we use HTML::Template ... perl module 00:29 destinati ah 00:29 kados which can generate XML just fine 00:30 destinati what is an example template? 00:30 kados but currently we just use it to create our templates 00:30 kados do you have a Koha installed? 00:30 destinati Yeah, 2.2.4 00:30 kados everything is templates 00:30 kados all the interfaces 00:30 kados look in koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/npl/en/ 00:31 kados there are two template styles currently maintained npl and default (called css in the OPAC) 00:32 destinati yeah.. you could definitely benefit from using XSLT instead of what you call templates here 00:32 kados hehe 00:32 destinati you'd benefit from having more tools at your disposal to edit them 00:39 destinati my dream is that one day Koha is using XML and is very plug-in/modular oriented 00:39 kados destinati: can you take a look ... why isn't my for-each displaying 00:39 destinati so that it's very easy to configure 00:40 destinati and there is an explosion of tons of plug-ins 00:40 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/xsl/MARCEdit.xsl 00:40 destinati and a very simple Windows installer :) 00:40 kados do I need it to be marc:datafield/ ? 00:40 kados I have <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield"> now 00:41 destinati note that all code has to be done in a template 00:41 destinati I think... 00:42 destinati so, what you're saying is.. 00:42 destinati "at the root, apply all templates that you can" 00:42 destinati the for-each is ignored 00:42 destinati and then the specific templates might be matched 00:42 kados gotcha 00:43 destinati simply have a match of "marc:datafield" 00:43 destinati or... 00:43 destinati go one level higher 00:43 destinati and match marc:record 00:43 destinati or.. 00:44 destinati have another template that doesn't do a match 00:44 destinati but that is named something like 00:44 kados hmmm ... 00:44 destinati <xsl:template name="showdatafields"> 00:44 destinati .. 00:44 destinati then 00:44 destinati <xsl:foreach select = "//datafield"> 00:45 destinati this xpath expression will select all datafields from the current node and below in the XML tree 00:45 destinati then, in your root template 00:45 destinati you could do an xsl:call-template 00:46 destinati <xsl:call-template name="showdatafields"/> 00:46 destinati all depends on your preferences 00:46 destinati and where you're going to take it.. 00:48 destinati nothing is preventing you from having another XML file that defines the MARC fields 00:48 destinati and then using XSLT to get that data using XPATH 00:49 kados that's what I'm doing I think 00:49 kados xmlns:marc="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim" 00:49 destinati 404 00:50 destinati maybe there is a nice schema... 00:50 destinati got it 00:51 destinati well the schema doesn't define each marc code 00:51 kados hmmm ... 00:51 kados so I can't really get the inputs to show up from showdatafields 00:52 destinati you can 00:52 destinati but to say that "650" is a subject item 00:52 kados well here's my idea 00:52 destinati you'd have to have a mapping of the MARC code to the definition of what 650 is 00:52 kados we assume advanced use 00:52 kados then when the user hits F1 00:52 kados a help pops up with explaination of the current field 00:53 kados but that's another whole stylesheet ;-) 00:53 kados right now I just need to get label and input showing up ;-) 00:53 kados here's what I've got: 00:53 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/xsl/MARCEdit.xsl 00:55 destinati replace marc:datafield with //datafield 00:55 destinati hmm.. I should probably copy the info locally 00:55 kados ok tried that an still doesn't work 00:56 kados yea ... LOC is really slow ;-) 00:56 destinati One minute.. I'll setup a sample project 01:02 destinati a few typos maybe.. 01:03 destinati hmm.. you're not getting proper XML back either 01:03 destinati for example 01:03 destinati & 01:03 destinati instead of & 01:04 destinati well, maybe not 01:04 destinati maybe I copied wrong 01:04 destinati one sec 01:04 destinati hehe 01:04 destinati that was it 01:04 kados it should be valid xml ... 01:05 kados no? 01:05 kados typos? 01:06 destinati I was viewing the XML in FireFox 01:06 destinati and copied and pasted it 01:06 kados ahh 01:07 destinati only to realize that FF did some escaping in the display 01:07 destinati :) 01:07 kados I've got <xsl:template name="showdatafields" match="marc:datafield"> 01:07 kados now 01:08 kados does this mean I'm using the marc namespace? 01:08 kados and is that a good thing? 01:08 destinati one min.. now I've got it to where you are 01:10 destinati <xsl:template name="showdatafields"> 01:10 destinati 01:10 destinati <xsl:for-each select="//marc:datafield"> 01:10 destinati get rid of the match part of the template declaration 01:11 kados done 01:11 destinati <xsl:template name="showdatafields"> 01:11 destinati <xsl:for-each select="//marc:datafield"> 01:11 destinati <label> 01:11 destinati <xsl:attribute name="for"><xsl:value-of select="@tag"/></xsl:attribute> 01:11 destinati <xsl:value-of select="@tag"/> 01:11 destinati </label> 01:11 destinati <input> 01:11 destinati <xsl:attribute name="id"><xsl:value-of select="@tag"/></xsl:attribute> 01:11 destinati <xsl:attribute name="value"><xsl:value-of select="@tag"/></xsl:attribute> 01:11 destinati </input> 01:11 destinati </xsl:for-each> 01:11 destinati </xsl:template> 01:13 kados is that what you're prescribing? 01:13 destinati Actually.. 01:13 destinati <xsl:template name="showdatafields"> 01:13 destinati <xsl:for-each select="//marc:datafield"> 01:13 destinati <xsl:sort select="@tag"/> 01:13 destinati <label> 01:13 destinati <xsl:attribute name="for"><xsl:value-of select="@tag"/></xsl:attribute> 01:13 destinati <xsl:value-of select="@tag"/> 01:13 destinati </label> 01:13 destinati <input> 01:13 destinati <xsl:attribute name="id"><xsl:value-of select="@tag"/></xsl:attribute> 01:13 destinati <xsl:attribute name="value"><xsl:value-of select="@tag"/></xsl:attribute> 01:13 destinati </input> 01:13 destinati </xsl:for-each> 01:13 destinati </xsl:template> 01:13 destinati that way it'll be sorted by MARC tag 01:14 kados ok ... cept it's not working ;-) 01:14 destinati what error do you get? I'm seeing it work here on my local copy 01:15 kados hmmm 01:15 kados well I don't get an error exactly 01:15 destinati one thing that I strongly recommend you do 01:15 kados instead of inputs I'm seeing just a MARC string 01:16 destinati is that you place a sample XML output file in the directory with the XSL 01:16 destinati and then at the top of it.. put 01:16 destinati <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="marc.xsl"?> 01:16 destinati that way.. all you have to do is save the XSL 01:16 destinati and then refresh the XML view in your browser 01:16 destinati I do that all the time 01:16 kados ahh ... good point 01:17 kados so I took the bottom stuff out of my xslt doc 01:18 kados and now it's just showing me a MARC string with no formatting at all: 01:18 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/xsl/MARCEdit.xsl 01:18 kados any ideas? 01:19 destinati hmm 01:19 destinati it's working here 01:19 kados weird 01:20 destinati let's see if I can send you something 01:20 kados do I still need this? : 01:20 kados <xsl:template match="/"> 01:20 kados <form> 01:20 kados <xsl:call-template name="showdatafields"/> 01:20 kados </form> 01:20 kados </xsl:template> 01:21 destinati you definitely need the root template 01:21 destinati that's the first thing the XSL processor goes for 01:21 destinati now, if you want to put the items inside of the <form> tag in another preference you can 01:21 destinati or you can do everything inside the root template 01:21 destinati it's up to you 01:22 destinati but if you want to simplify things... 01:22 destinati take the part from <xsl:template name="showdatafields" 01:22 destinati to the end of that tag at the bottom 01:22 destinati get rid of the template outer tag 01:22 destinati and put it inside the <form> tag 01:23 destinati that way you make it simpler 01:23 destinati by having everything in one template 01:23 kados like this? :http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/xsl/MARCEdit.xsl 01:23 destinati hehe 01:23 destinati now you can get rid of the call-template :) 01:24 destinati think of templates as sort of similar to functions in perl 01:24 destinati the only difference is that templates really describe parts of the XML tree 01:24 kados right 01:24 destinati "/" is the main() 01:24 kados ok ... well strangely it's not working ... 01:25 kados instead of nicely formatted inputs I'm just getting a MARC string when I click on each record 01:25 kados do you have the whole app running locally? 01:25 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/ 01:25 kados ? 01:25 destinati Take an XML file generated from the query 01:26 destinati then add <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="MARCEdit.xsl"?> to the top of it 01:26 destinati and put it in the same directory as the XSL 01:26 destinati then view that XML in firefox 01:27 destinati also.. don't be afraid to do a ggVg= in vim 01:27 destinati :) 01:27 kados :-) 01:27 destinati er 01:27 destinati ggVG= 01:28 kados so what does the xmlns:marc="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim" do for me? 01:28 kados it's at the top of my .xls 01:28 kados could that be the problem? 01:28 kados (I really need this to work on dynamic results 01:28 destinati that's telling the XML parser that there is a namespace 01:28 destinati named marc 01:28 kados that's what I thought 01:29 kados so marc:datafield is referencing that right? 01:29 kados should it be //marc:datafield or just marc:datafield? 01:29 destinati you don't need the exclude part at the top 01:30 destinati it depends on how you're processing the XSL 01:30 destinati try "//datafield" instead of "//marc:datafield" 01:30 destinati the "//" part is an XPath expression that says "look everywhere below my current position in the XML tree" 01:31 destinati it's a bit confusing 01:31 kados hmmm ... no luck 01:32 destinati what is doing the XSL processing 01:32 destinati how are you invoking it? 01:32 kados hmmm ... 01:32 kados it's in javascript 01:32 kados and I can get some xsl processing to work ... 01:33 kados i.e., I had it working when I was specifying specific tag/subfields 01:33 destinati above the for-each part, put <b><xsl:value-of select="count(//marc:datafield)"/></b> 01:34 destinati and see what the value is in bold in the generated page 01:35 kados nothing seems to be 01:35 destinati you don't even see 0? 01:35 kados hmmm 01:35 kados have you tried it: 01:35 kados http://bobcat2.cs.ohiou.edu/ 01:35 kados do a search (I use 'qwerty' as a keyword) 01:36 kados it will return a list of records 01:36 kados click on one and the right-hand side will display a MARC string 01:37 kados that is supposed to be generated by the xslt transformation 01:38 destinati seems like you're getting just the xml 01:38 destinati for example, put a "HELLO WORLD!" above the <form> 01:39 destinati yeah.. your xsl isn't running 01:39 kados yea ... so maybe the xsl isn't valid or something 01:40 destinati try modifying your top of the XSL to 01:40 destinati <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> 01:40 destinati <xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" 01:40 destinati xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"> 01:41 destinati well.. you can even add the exclude part before the > 01:41 destinati although I've never used exclude-result-prefixes before 01:42 destinati <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> 01:42 destinati <xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" 01:42 destinati xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" exclude-result-prefixes="marc"> 01:43 kados what about the marc: namespage? 01:43 kados namespace even 01:44 kados hehe 01:44 kados now I get a "to be implemented' warning from firefox 01:46 destinati I need to be going soon, but if I follow your code.. your having the lookup in the main.js 01:46 kados yep 01:47 destinati and the loadRecord doing the style 01:47 kados so I had a stylesheet working 01:47 kados right 01:47 kados all I've changed is the stylesheet ;-) 01:47 kados right loadRecord handles the onclick event 01:48 destinati I haven't dabbled to much in JavaScript, but... 01:49 destinati are you using processed at all? 01:49 destinati yes 01:49 destinati in the append 01:49 kados yea ... afaik it's the fragment 01:50 kados var processed = processor.transformToFragment(myRecord,document); 01:54 destinati I'm not sure about the javascript, I haven't used that before 01:54 destinati but if you take your current XSL 01:55 destinati and replace the select="marc:datafield" 01:55 destinati with select="//marc:datafield" 01:55 destinati and then take a sample XML output 01:55 destinati and put the processing tags that I mentioned way above 01:55 destinati it works 01:55 destinati so the problem lies in the javascript 01:56 destinati keep in mind that you have to put "//marc:datafield" instead of "marc:datafield" 01:56 destinati because 01:56 destinati of where you are in the XML tree at the time you do the for-each 01:56 destinati you're one above the <collection> 01:56 destinati that is.. the root 01:56 destinati so you could put... 01:57 destinati <xsl:for-each select="/marc:collection/marc:record/marc:datafield"> 01:57 destinati or 01:57 destinati <xsl:for-each select="//marc:datafield"> 01:57 destinati they both will get you what you want 01:57 destinati the bottom has a cleaner XPath 01:58 destinati if you just put <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield"> 01:58 destinati you'll get nowhere 01:58 destinati because at that point 01:58 destinati in the tree the items to iterate through are just... <marc:collection> 01:58 destinati does that make sense? 01:59 destinati also... 01:59 destinati note that once you do the "for-each" your scope changes 01:59 destinati to that of the datafield tag 02:00 destinati so if inside of the for-each you put <xsl:value-of select="marc:datafield/@tag"/> 02:00 destinati you'll get nowhere 02:00 destinati because that would need an XML structure of 02:00 destinati <datafield><datafield> 02:00 destinati remember.. XSL is all about where are you in the XML doc 02:01 destinati since you are already in a datafield element tag 02:01 destinati you can just put "@tag" 02:01 destinati since that means "where I am now, take the tag attribute" 02:01 destinati I need to get going 02:02 destinati hopefully some of what I said was helpful.. and didn't get you offtrack 02:02 destinati XML is very powerful and once you get the hang of it.. it'll make even more sense.. and you'll see the real power 02:03 destinati Good Luck, talk to you later 02:04 kados cool ...thanks for the explaination ... I'll try to apply it 02:04 kados ciao 02:04 destinati :)