Time  Nick   Message
04:31 osmoze hello
20:03 thd    well the German list does not seemed to be maintained by an active list system.
19:56 thd    chris: oh :)
19:55 chris  thats not a katipo machine
19:55 chris  but it points to de.koha.org.            58338   IN      A       167.206.47.56
19:55 chris  sure it is
19:55 thd    chirs: Is not de.koha.org a subdomain of koha,org?
19:54 chris  no it wasnt a katipo one
19:54 thd    The German list has the address de.koha.org, obviously a Katipo domain.  Are there any archives?
19:30 thd    rach: well that is good to know.  I did not know there was an old.koha.org anymore.
19:30 rach   the info will be in the old website that we still have, but it's not published anywhere right now
19:29 rach   if you want to look at it
19:29 rach   the map is still at old.koha.org
19:28 thd    Is the text content that formed the basis of the map available anywhere apart from the wiki which is different?
19:26 chris  right, well you'll have ask someone who knows .. i dont :)
19:26 thd    chris: The German templates seem to be so old that paul has not included them in the po files for 2.2.4.
19:25 thd    The manager of the bookshop that  I am hoping will adopt Koha went off to Frankfurt today.  She asked if she could find anyone there who would be involved with Koha even though she said that she may not have time while there.
19:25 chris  he was the one working on the german translation of the templates last i heard
19:24 chris  id drop dorian mead an email and ask him if he knows
19:24 chris  yeah they may have gone with something else
19:21 thd    chris: http://opac.ecla.de/ has something interesting but it is not Koha.
19:17 chris  but dorian wasnt, so map didnt have more, just different
19:17 chris  there was someone playing in berlin as well, they were on the map
19:16 chris  http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2004/003836.html
19:16 chris  different information
19:15 thd    chris: The map seemed to have more information unless my memory is false.
19:15 chris  http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/koha_wiki/index.php?page=KohaUsers
19:14 thd    rach:Is the Koha map intended for replacement by a region and country divided text listing?
19:13 rach   but there was a german mailing list a while back
19:12 rach   it's gone - it didn't get transfered to the new website, but I don't hthink there were any german ones on it
19:12 thd    It is difficult to check the Koha map anymore.
19:11 rach   don't know
19:10 thd    rach: Are there any installations in Germany?
19:10 rach   I'm pretty sure there is one
19:10 rach   you should ask on the german language list
19:06 thd    Is anyone representing Koha at Frankfurt or do people think that not enough librarians attend?
16:14 chris  certainly on the opac, you should need nothing more than a browser, no plugins, no extra software .. all you need in each template is a <TMPL_IF NAME="ERROR"><TMPL_VAR NAME="ERROR"></TMPL_IF>
16:11 chris  its not the messaging system thats the problem, displaying errors is easy its html::template, its just ppl have been lazy and not error handled enough
15:46 kados  it allows them to display messages really easily to the user using a consistant framework
15:44 owen   kados: what does that get them?
15:42 kados  so Evergreen has jabber for instance ;-)
15:42 kados  it's due in part to not having a very good messaging framework built in
15:42 kados  yep
15:41 owen   Koha has the same problem in other areas too, like members
15:40 owen   (just ranting a little)
15:37 owen   What if someone types in the url by hand?  The way it is now, they're likely to believe that the record exists but is empty or corrupted somehow.
15:36 owen   Good applications don't assume that everything is always going to be okay!
15:34 kados  I guess the assumption is that we're not going to have links to non-existing biblios ;-)
15:33 kados  but we don't have a very good messaging system so that would be hard to pull off without adding a whole new block of code
15:33 kados  and some kinda of warning ...
15:32 kados  if (!$dat->{'count'}) {
15:31 kados  so adding something like
15:31 kados  $dat->{'count'}=@items;
15:31 kados  this looks promising:
15:28 kados  lemme check the detail script
15:28 kados  :-)
15:28 owen   http://intranet.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/detail.pl?bib=thisisnotanumber
15:28 kados  right
15:28 owen   You get a blank biblio detail page
15:27 owen   For instance: you follow a link for record which no longer exists
15:27 kados  I can't think of a scenerio where that would be necessary ... has something come up recently?
15:26 kados  hmmm
15:25 owen   Would that be hard to do?
15:25 owen   There must be some kind of way to set up an "if no results" option in the query
15:24 owen   How can we get Koha to display an error message on the detail screen if the biblio number wasn't found?
15:22 kados  afternoon
15:20 owen   hi kados