Time Nick Message 15:20 owen hi kados 15:22 kados afternoon 15:24 owen How can we get Koha to display an error message on the detail screen if the biblio number wasn't found? 15:25 owen There must be some kind of way to set up an "if no results" option in the query 15:25 owen Would that be hard to do? 15:26 kados hmmm 15:27 kados I can't think of a scenerio where that would be necessary ... has something come up recently? 15:27 owen For instance: you follow a link for record which no longer exists 15:28 owen You get a blank biblio detail page 15:28 kados right 15:28 owen http://intranet.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/detail.pl?bib=thisisnotanumber 15:28 kados :-) 15:28 kados lemme check the detail script 15:31 kados this looks promising: 15:31 kados $dat->{'count'}=@items; 15:31 kados so adding something like 15:32 kados if (!$dat->{'count'}) { 15:33 kados and some kinda of warning ... 15:33 kados but we don't have a very good messaging system so that would be hard to pull off without adding a whole new block of code 15:34 kados I guess the assumption is that we're not going to have links to non-existing biblios ;-) 15:36 owen Good applications don't assume that everything is always going to be okay! 15:37 owen What if someone types in the url by hand? The way it is now, they're likely to believe that the record exists but is empty or corrupted somehow. 15:40 owen (just ranting a little) 15:41 owen Koha has the same problem in other areas too, like members 15:42 kados yep 15:42 kados it's due in part to not having a very good messaging framework built in 15:42 kados so Evergreen has jabber for instance ;-) 15:44 owen kados: what does that get them? 15:46 kados it allows them to display messages really easily to the user using a consistant framework 16:11 chris its not the messaging system thats the problem, displaying errors is easy its html::template, its just ppl have been lazy and not error handled enough 16:14 chris certainly on the opac, you should need nothing more than a browser, no plugins, no extra software .. all you need in each template is a <TMPL_IF NAME="ERROR"><TMPL_VAR NAME="ERROR"></TMPL_IF> 19:06 thd Is anyone representing Koha at Frankfurt or do people think that not enough librarians attend? 19:10 rach you should ask on the german language list 19:10 rach I'm pretty sure there is one 19:10 thd rach: Are there any installations in Germany? 19:11 rach don't know 19:12 thd It is difficult to check the Koha map anymore. 19:12 rach it's gone - it didn't get transfered to the new website, but I don't hthink there were any german ones on it 19:13 rach but there was a german mailing list a while back 19:14 thd rach:Is the Koha map intended for replacement by a region and country divided text listing? 19:15 chris http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/koha_wiki/index.php?page=KohaUsers 19:15 thd chris: The map seemed to have more information unless my memory is false. 19:16 chris different information 19:16 chris http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2004/003836.html 19:17 chris there was someone playing in berlin as well, they were on the map 19:17 chris but dorian wasnt, so map didnt have more, just different 19:21 thd chris: http://opac.ecla.de/ has something interesting but it is not Koha. 19:24 chris yeah they may have gone with something else 19:24 chris id drop dorian mead an email and ask him if he knows 19:25 chris he was the one working on the german translation of the templates last i heard 19:25 thd The manager of the bookshop that I am hoping will adopt Koha went off to Frankfurt today. She asked if she could find anyone there who would be involved with Koha even though she said that she may not have time while there. 19:26 thd chris: The German templates seem to be so old that paul has not included them in the po files for 2.2.4. 19:26 chris right, well you'll have ask someone who knows .. i dont :) 19:28 thd Is the text content that formed the basis of the map available anywhere apart from the wiki which is different? 19:29 rach the map is still at old.koha.org 19:29 rach if you want to look at it 19:30 rach the info will be in the old website that we still have, but it's not published anywhere right now 19:30 thd rach: well that is good to know. I did not know there was an old.koha.org anymore. 19:54 thd The German list has the address de.koha.org, obviously a Katipo domain. Are there any archives? 19:54 chris no it wasnt a katipo one 19:55 thd chirs: Is not de.koha.org a subdomain of koha,org? 19:55 chris sure it is 19:55 chris but it points to de.koha.org. 58338 IN A 167.206.47.56 19:55 chris thats not a katipo machine 19:56 thd chris: oh :) 20:03 thd well the German list does not seemed to be maintained by an active list system. 04:31 osmoze hello