Time Nick Message 14:58 kados paul: you around? 14:59 kados jdtysko: how goes the cataloging project? 15:12 jdtysko the project is progressing 15:12 jdtysko one snag, though 15:13 jdtysko i can't figure out how to update a server with the modified MARC record 15:29 kados jdtysko: if you're still there 15:29 kados jdtysko: the ability to update records isn't a feature of the Net::Z3950 module 15:30 kados jdtysko: we're working on a new Perl-ZOOM module 15:30 kados jdtysko: that will replace Net::Z3950 15:30 kados jdtysko: but I don't think that will ready for about a month or so 15:30 kados jdtysko: maybe to months ;-) 15:30 kados jdtysko: two even 15:31 jdtysko so is there any way to update a z3950 server then? 15:33 kados jdtysko: not in perl ;-) 15:41 kados jdtysko: not in perl I think :-/ 15:41 kados jdtysko: got a demo I can try out? 15:41 jdtysko not really 15:42 jdtysko just a simple perl script that pulls in a search, modifies it and converts back to binary form 15:43 kados sweet 15:43 kados sounds like a good start ;-) 15:43 jdtysko ok, so should the project be able to add/modify records then? 15:43 kados eventually yes ... 15:43 kados I think for now we should focus on searching for records 15:43 kados and allowing a cataloger to view the record and modify it 15:44 jdtysko i did whip up a quick test interface 15:44 kados and then save the resulting MARC file in one of the 'reservoirs' 15:44 jdtysko so how permanent should the resivoirs be? 15:44 jdtysko page-only, session-only, etc 15:45 kados well I would make them 100% permenant 15:45 kados if they are server-side in a db that's the easiest way to do it 15:45 jdtysko ok, we can do that 15:45 kados so picture a MySQL db with a table for the reservoirs 15:45 jdtysko ya 15:46 kados maybe a 'recordstring' 'reservoirtype' 'timestamp' 'recordid', etc. 15:46 kados tables 15:47 kados so you can specify maybe three reservoir types: 'unfinished', 'finished', 'working' 15:47 kados and 'working' has a lock on it or something 15:47 kados it's really a shame we don't have Perl-ZOOM done 15:47 jdtysko and then some administrator takes the "finished" table and sends it back to the server? 15:48 kados yea ... well he exports all the 'finished' records as a single ISO2709 (MARC) format file 15:48 kados and then can import using the ILSes built-in tools 15:48 kados too bad we can't just use Z39.50 for everything :-( 15:48 jdtysko ok i see 15:48 jdtysko yeah really 15:50 kados jdtysko: if you're interested, I think there's PHP ZOOM code around somewhere 15:50 kados jdtysko: which would allow that 15:50 kados jdtysko: but it would have to be ported when Perl-ZOOM is released 15:50 jdtysko ok thanks, i'll look into that 15:50 kados jdtysko: so that's kinda yucky ;-) 15:51 jdtysko yeah, php is a bit different 16:08 jdtysko ok, well thanks for all of your help. i have to go to a meeting with my group now 16:09 jdtysko i'll tell them what i learned, and we may stop by here later on 16:37 russ kados are you around? 16:43 kados russ: yep 16:45 russ hi - sounds like we are about to do some similar work on serials? 16:46 russ wondering if there might be an oppurtunity to pool resources? 16:46 kados yea ... for sure 16:46 russ we are at the speccing phase that the moment 16:47 kados us too 16:47 russ our new library consultant is compiling the requirements for our client 16:47 russ do you have a deadline/timeframe for your doc? 16:47 kados well ... this year ;-) 16:47 russ sweet 16:48 russ that is similar to us 16:48 kados it'd be nice to included it in 3.0 16:48 kados include even 16:48 russ oh yeah for sure 16:49 kados so should we use a wiki for the spec doc? 16:49 russ that could work 16:49 kados wiki.liblime.com is available 16:49 kados if you like dokuwiki ;-) 16:50 russ we don't use wikis all that much 16:50 kados so it's pretty easy to use ... it's just an editable website 16:51 kados so to add a new page you click on 'Edit this page' 16:51 kados then you use the wiki syntax to create a new item (using CamelCase) 16:51 kados then you click on the new item and edit that page to put in the content 16:51 russ right - we are preparing a word doc for starters (clients request 16:51 kados k ... 16:52 russ but assuming we can copy and paste 16:52 kados but I bet if you could show the client how easy dokuwiki is to use they would prefer it ;-) 16:52 russ maybe 16:52 kados cause they can put comments directly in the document 16:52 kados it's the ultimate collaboration tool ;-) 16:53 russ the main thing will be trying to come up with a way 16:53 russ to manage different requirements 16:53 kados right 16:54 russ we are just about to go off and have our staff meeting 16:54 russ so i will catch up with amanda (our library person then) 16:54 kados sweet 18:33 russ kados you still there? 18:53 kados russ: yep 18:54 russ hi - amanda says that she should be finished her first draft of the spec today 18:55 kados cool ... any chance she could post it to the wiki? or send me a copy (I'd be happy to put it up on the wiki) 18:55 kados might be nice to get the general KOha community's opinion too 18:56 russ i'll meet with her this avo 18:56 russ if it is ready we'll post it 18:56 kados cool ... thanks 20:37 rach I think going out wider would be good 20:38 rach although design by committee can be bad, but I think this lot are used to that by now :-) 07:56 kados hi everyone 07:56 kados paul: you around? 07:57 paul yes. 07:57 paul hello joshua 07:57 kados paul: I was wondering what the status was on 2.2.4 ... released today? 07:57 kados paul: (just curious ... no pressure ;-)) 07:57 kados paul: ha! 07:58 paul (& mail sent to koha-devel / koha / koha-announce) 07:58 kados paul: serves me for not checking ;-) 07:58 paul ;-) 07:58 kados congrats! 07:58 paul your welcome. 07:58 kados and thank you ;-) 08:02 kados paul: I will be updating the LibLime demo later today 08:02 kados paul: with 2.2.4 ;-) 08:02 kados paul: but now I must get some coffee ;-) 08:16 Sylvain hi 08:17 paul coucou 08:17 paul (mon mail d'annonce de la 2.2.4 est il arrivé sur la liste ? je ne l'ai pas reçu...) 08:18 Sylvain vu 08:19 paul bon, va savoir pourquoi moi je l'ai pas reçu... 08:19 Sylvain euh en fait après réflexion vu mais pas sur koha-infos 10:41 paul hi owen. 10:41 owen Hi paul 10:41 paul a quick question : could you sent me your php script that lists all pending reserves ? 10:43 owen It is two parts, really: one part grabs the reserves and puts them in a separate table. The other part queries that table. 10:43 owen The part that grabs the reserves is a script Stephen wrote. That's probably the more important part