Time  Nick  Message
20:03 thd   good evening chris
20:02 chris home even
20:02 chris ok, im heading how
19:48 chris otoh, we seem to be getting some more koha based work, so i will have a chance to work on koha more again which is good, ive been pretty quiet the last year
19:47 chris and not so inclined to do more work after work :)
19:47 chris plus as i get older, im working more regular hours
19:46 chris im now married, got two dogs, etc ... my time outside of work isnt so free anymore
19:45 chris i suspect a serious amount can be done before that as well, my problem is time
19:45 chris yep
19:44 thd   chris: The biggest problem with 3.0 development seems to be the absence of immediate funding for rewriting Net::Z3950 so the Zebra integration can begin.
19:44 chris oh, hlt use kea to manage their website, but its not so integrated with koha in that instance, they just manage all the templates and static pages with it
19:42 chris but we use kea, cos we know it best
19:42 chris it wouldnt need to be kea either, you can make it work with any of the opensource cms systems
19:41 chris of course our staff koha, where we store all the rfp's, quotes, estimates
19:41 chris lianza
19:40 thd   chris: Do you have other sites with both Koha and Kea?
19:40 chris kea to handle the uploading pdfs, triggering them to the live site etc, and koha to catalogue them
19:39 chris lgnz is done with koha + kea
19:38 chris the problem with trying to do nice templates on a work in process, is the templates keep getting broken :)
19:38 chris ideally it will go into a feature freeze early enough, so that the designers can pretty it up
19:37 chris hopefully we at katipo will be able to help out with that
19:37 chris s
19:37 chris yeah, id love for koha 3.0 to come out with pretty default template
19:36 chris the library latest column is fetched straight from koha
19:35 chris http://lgnz.co.nz/
19:35 thd   The Koha default template should be as beautiful as the one for LGNZ
19:35 chris something kinda cool with lgnz is this
19:34 chris yep
19:34 thd   chris: Lianza does the same thing it is just not as pretty.
19:34 chris thats the kind of work we at katipo have been doing lately, integrating koha
19:32 chris even opac.library.org.nz
19:32 chris yep
19:32 thd   chris: The first one was closest to what I had in mind,  The beautiful graphics serve to hide Koha and several links to areas outside the OPAC are always visible.
19:30 chris http://www.philanthropy.org.au/search/catalogue.html
19:28 chris http://opac.lianza.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
19:27 chris http://library.lgnz.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
19:27 chris sorta is
19:26 chris hmm lemme look
19:26 thd   chris: Do you have more examples of Koha being well integrated with the rest of a website so that you hardly know that it is Koha?
19:21 chris its just a big website (all of koha) just have links to more pages if you need them :)
19:20 chris http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery2/v/kohaphotos/reviews/6.JPG.html
19:19 chris illl find the screen shots, (its behind auth)
19:18 chris thats what i did with my proof of concept for reviews
19:17 chris id make them links
19:16 thd   chris: What would happen to the readability of the display if there were was very significant information for each biblioitem, such as the complete table of contents, reviews, etc.?
19:15 chris broken templates ..... the bane of my life :)
19:14 chris as the talking book is sometimes a different publisher too
19:13 chris yep
19:13 thd   chris: Should that be in the section below with the holdings?
19:12 chris but its not, its part of the biblioitem
19:12 chris its displaying the publisher as if it was part of the biblio
19:12 chris hmmm thats an error
19:11 thd   chris: In your last example, is Bloomsbury the publisher of the videos as well as the books?
19:10 chris everythng is passed through to the template
19:08 chris if a library wants the publication date, its literally a 5 min change
19:08 chris you can display whatever you want
19:07 chris http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=26679
19:07 thd   chris: nor the publication date?
19:07 chris its up to the library to decide what info they want to display
19:06 chris you dont in those templates
19:05 thd   chris: where do I see the ISBN for the talking book?
19:03 chris 1 biblio, 3 biblioitms, 6 items
19:03 chris http://opac.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=26679
19:02 chris exactly
19:01 thd   chris: only different biblios appear as different records?
19:01 chris biblioitems != biblio
19:00 chris no
19:00 thd   chris: If more biblioitems were created to accommodate different circulation rules for different items,  Wouldn't there be additional unwanted records appearing in the OPAC?
18:57 chris i suspect they are having 'issues'
18:57 chris there has no archive been made for october yet
18:56 chris :)
18:55 chris and my reply to that
18:55 thd   chris: well I guess you will see my message eventually and I will see Joshua's reply to yours.
18:53 thd   chris: perhaps there is some admin work being done but they should post an announcement of that :)
18:51 chris so its not inconceivable, specially with all the crap tricks spammers use
18:51 chris but it moves an insane amount of mail
18:50 chris yes
18:50 thd   chris: Are queues for 8 hours or more unusual on Sourceforge lists?
18:48 thd   chris: I believe that it was because I spoke to him on telephone after he said that he sent it.
18:48 chris if it hasnt bounced, and it hasnt made it to mailman, my guess is its queued somewhere
18:47 chris dunno i was asleep
18:46 thd   chris: Was not Joshua's message to you from 8 hours ago?
18:46 chris might be a big queue of mail at sourceforge
18:45 chris id wait a bit
18:45 thd   chris: I wrote a lengthy reply to the itemtype thread and recently a test message.
18:44 chris but i dont think either of them have come through yet, they didnt get bounced though
18:43 chris joshua replied to me, and i replied to that
18:41 chris theres nothing waiting in the admin queue for approval
18:41 chris i was even
18:41 chris ive seen messages but i think thts because i as cc'd
18:40 chris hmm nope
18:40 thd   chris: my test message to koha-devel has also vanished.  There is no administration activity announcement about mail delays that I can see.
18:33 thd   chris: have you seen any posts to koha-devel after your reply to Sylvain and Joshua where you recommend creating additional biblioitems "Re: [Koha-devel] Itemtype and MARC21 Quandry" Date: 01/10/2005 08:57:37 +1200 ?  I posted after afterwords and I believe Joshua did as well but I see no more messages on the list.
18:08 thd   kados: are you present?