Time Nick Message 11:23 kados well ... it's better than no translation at all IMO 11:22 shaun i wouldn't like to use google translate, it's not always accurate, but i'll certainly look at making the flags 11:22 kados shaun: and as we get 'real' translations we can change the links? 11:22 kados shaun: could you put some 'flags' up in the meantime that link to the google translation pages? 11:21 shaun paul: feel free to ask if you need any help porting it, i can send you the static one if you like 11:21 kados not too bad as far as format goes 11:21 kados http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fkoha.org&langpair=en%7Cfr&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools 11:21 paul ok, leaving now, read you on next monday ! 11:21 kados :-) 11:20 paul I plan to rewrite koha-fr.org to look like koha.org, but not next week ;-) 11:20 kados and we'd have a translated version of the site on koha.org 11:20 kados though eventually I think we decided we'd have a bunch of little 'flats' on the top right (or somewhere) signaling different languages 11:19 kados paul: agreed ... 11:19 shaun paul: it's in the pay for support page 11:18 paul should be reintroduced on home page, imho 11:18 paul another note : I can't find a link to the french site. 11:17 paul great ! 11:17 shaun i'm doing a patch asap 11:17 paul so, it's grey for me, not very nice :-( 11:17 paul except that there is still no bg color in <body> 11:16 paul yes, very nice. 11:16 shaun cheers 11:16 kados nicely done shaun 11:15 kados yea ... looks very professional 11:15 owen Hey shaun. The Koha site looks great. Well done. 11:15 kados thx 11:15 kados we'll need some kind of graphic signaling folks that they can get on koha-lobby 11:14 kados shaun: ahh ... for the livechat 11:14 shaun "shaun should probably put together a graphic for that" -- what should i do? 11:14 shaun kados: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.pl?look=plain&startdate=2005090910:47:34&enddate=2005090910:57:34&search=Search 11:12 kados hdl: can you send yours? ;-) 11:11 kados paul: recieved your CV 10:58 kados thanks 10:57 paul sent 10:55 kados I will use them in a proposal to illustrate diversity and expertise of Koha team 10:55 kados that's fine ... I can translate ;-) 10:54 kados CV meaning a 'resume blurb'? 10:54 paul in french yes. 10:54 kados do you both have CVs that you can send me? 10:54 kados great ... I have a quick question 10:54 hdl yes. 10:54 paul yes (for me) 10:54 kados paul and hdl are you around? 09:02 hdl kados : Don't mention it. 08:48 kados hdl: thanks! 08:48 kados hdl: they await the success of the Z3950 client but everything else was very smooth 08:48 kados hdl: very successful 08:43 hdl kados : how was your meeting ? 08:41 owen Wait...I thought things never got slow at Athens! 08:31 kados (when things get slow) 08:31 kados I'm also working on getting remote desktop control so staff can work on their desktops while they are on circ 08:31 kados plus I can troubleshoot them from the server 08:30 kados they auto-login and start Firefox 08:30 kados yea ... pretty nice setup too XFCE with Mozilla 08:30 owen Cool... Didn't realize you were doing that. 08:29 kados linux terminal server project 08:29 kados oh ... and did I mention the phone system :-) 08:29 owen ltsp clients? 08:29 kados we've got to move some OPACs today and printers, etc/ 08:29 owen The speed increase certainly makes it worth pursuing 08:29 owen Yeah, I guess tomorrow would be a bad day for Koha to be acting up 08:28 kados I'll hack on it next week 08:28 kados yea ... too much to do before tomorrow 08:28 owen Hey kados. So you gave up on the mod_perl stuff for now? 08:28 kados morning owen 08:27 owen Happy Friday, #koha 02:23 paul et hop, deco/reco encore une fois... 02:20 osmoze normalement non, je prendrai ce qui est pratiquable...Mais j aimerai pas prendre la barque ^^ 02:19 hdl Mais renseigne-toi aux infos aujourd'hui. si tu comptes prendre les départementales. 02:19 hdl Cet AM ce devrait être praticable. 02:18 osmoze et l autoroute est ouverte ? 02:17 hdl Ce fut un peu le déluge. 02:17 hdl Mais pour l'eau, faut voir... 02:17 hdl ... pour les décos. 02:16 hdl non pas de façon visible. 02:16 paul (qui est à mpl) 02:16 paul il y en a assez peu, NETTEMENT - qu'hdl 02:16 osmoze hdl> et toi, pas touché ? 02:16 osmoze ? 02:16 osmoze paul, c est comment a marseille avec l eau N 02:16 osmoze je viens de lire tes mails et y a t il eu un fil sur les rss que j ai loupé ou peux tu me dire le fonctionnement (en gros) vis a vis de koha 02:16 paul (c'est bien la peine d'avoir nerim et payer + cher pour avoir des déco :-( 02:15 paul (gros pb de ternet chez moi aujourd'hui...) 02:15 osmoze bonjour paul 02:15 osmoze hello 00:43 hdl hi 22:14 dean http://www.katipo.co.nz/clients/helpdesk/keatutorials/tutorial2/changes.html 22:08 dean http://koha2.edit.katipo.co.nz/kaka/index.cgi?path=/about-koha/ 22:07 dean hi irma 21:59 russ http://www.katipo.co.nz/clients/helpdesk/keatutorials/tutorial1/screen-large.html 21:58 russ http://www.katipo.co.nz/clients/helpdesk/keatutorials/ 21:55 russ hi 21:55 Irma g'day again 18:32 chris http://koha.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi 18:21 thd russ: You might reserve a little judgement, I have already written but not yet posted a message explaining why I have done it the way that I have. Serving multiple purposes, including motivating more serious interest by people in Koha for features that are not obvious with the broken demo. Yet I think it will by liked after perhaps some modification. Then, I will go onto adding to the FAQ. 18:18 russ allrighty then - http://www.koha.org/ - few teething problems that we are working through, but they should be sorted soon 18:15 russ thd: i have blind faith :-) 18:14 thd russ: You mean the ones you have not seen yet :) 18:13 russ thd: your efforts are much appreciated :-) 18:11 thd kados: answer at your leisure. 18:09 thd kados: when you migrate a library to koha where do you find the status information? 18:07 thd kados: you and chris were dreaming the same dream 18:06 thd congratulations kados 18:06 kados it was my proposal to boot ;-) 18:06 kados hehe 18:05 thd 11/08/05 11:00:45+-5 <rach:#koha> nice idea 18:05 thd 11/08/05 11:00:35+-5 <kados:#koha> rach: I'd like to have a koha-lobby 18:05 thd previous discussion between chris and kados had been looking for what kados had proposed as #koha-lobby: 17:58 kados thd: np :-) 17:57 thd kados: sorry for being so dense, I was basing my question on some ambiguous references in the Koha diary or on the koha-devel list. 17:57 chris i gotta go do some work, but ill be back 17:56 chris i cant remember, someone help me out 17:56 chris dont think so 17:56 kados the idea being that it'd be a salesy channel? 17:55 chris we=I 17:55 chris im sure there was, and we came up with koha-lobby or are we dreaming? 17:55 kados thd: so IBM for starters ;-) 17:55 kados thd: it's web-based 17:55 thd kados: Which manufacturer system does the code support? 17:54 chris dunno, im sure there was a discussion about this already? 17:54 kados thd: yes 17:54 kados chris: not even 17:53 kados chris: why now? 17:53 thd kados: So the issue is that the code has not been committed to the current release? 17:53 chris well not #koha 17:53 chris yeah if i get time kados 17:52 kados thd: been using it for several months 17:52 kados thd: yep 17:52 kados shaun should probably put together a graphic for that 17:52 thd kados: Do you not have it in use already at NPL? 17:52 kados chris: cgi::irc direct to irc.katipo.co.nz #koha? 17:51 kados thd: web-based ... it'll be included in Koha 3.0 17:51 thd kados: what is the self checkout system that Koha supports? 17:51 kados chris: any chance we could have a live chat going ? 17:51 kados sure even ;-) 17:51 kados russ: suure 17:50 russ would it be appropriate to link to npl home page, liblime, and skemotah from the npl case study? 17:50 Irma just looked at the website...positive so far 17:50 kados russ: there's a 'Koha in the News' section 17:50 kados russ: http://liblime.com/koha 17:50 kados russ: but if you tool around on the LibLime Koha pages you might find some interesting news and other related links 17:49 kados russ: not off hand 17:49 kados agreed ;-) 17:49 rach they are v cute :-) 17:49 russ s/go/got 17:49 russ kados: go some ideas there? 17:48 Irma Isn't it so small, tripple zero! The sweets are for all who have a sweet Nature!/tooth! 17:48 rach Irma: scan indicates a boy so the clothes should be perfect :-) 17:48 kados russ: related links not quote what we expect ;-) 17:48 kados http://new.koha.org/about-koha/case-studies/nelsonville.html 17:47 kados site looks great everyone 17:47 Irma thanks Thomas, I love your city. 17:47 russ i will be getting out of a meeting about then 17:47 russ that should be ok 17:47 rach hi irma - thank you so much for your present :-) 17:47 Irma Russ: hi... unfortunetly I will need to be away from my desk for about 3 hours...can I call you...let's say :your time 2:30PM??? 17:46 thd Irma: I am in NYC. 17:45 russ not pretty 17:45 russ in the descriptions 17:45 russ so it comes up in the search results 17:45 chris which we dont really want it to 17:45 chris just indexes the navigation 17:44 thd russ: What havoc has htdig been doing? 17:44 Irma beaut! 17:43 thd Irma: I have corrected the source and notified the change. 17:43 russ i think we are going to need some htdig nosearch tags in the code as well - i'll ask someone to have a look at that 17:43 thd Irma: Dukleth 17:43 Irma oh yes I can see Thomas...what is the correct spelling? Are you in New Zealand? 17:42 russ righto 17:38 thd Irma: Appears mistakenly as Duklef http://new.koha.org/about-koha/koha-team.html 17:36 thd Irma: It may still be misspelt on the website. 17:35 thd Irma: Dukleth 17:34 Irma Hi thd...sorry, I don't know your full name... 17:32 russ bbs 17:32 russ yep sorry guys - i need 20 mins to deal with a client 17:31 Irma Russ can we schedule a time to prepare for the editing/proofreading? 17:31 thd Answer, feature list to actually sell Koha on features has taken some time and still two modules to go. 17:31 Irma yep... his is where I can come in. 17:31 russ other work has come up 17:31 russ sorry 17:31 shaun sorry guys, i've gotta dash, i'm restricted by my school term times again 17:30 shaun shaun: (that last one: writing/prose style) 17:30 shaun shaun: # someone (Irma?) needs to come along and make the general style the same, and check for common errors like greengrocer's apostrophes, very long sentences, links which consume more of the text than they should etc 17:29 shaun Irma: http://new.koha.org/ - i'll find one of my comments earlier and paste 17:28 thd Irma: I guess it is up to why is thd tardy :) 17:28 shaun (where has russ gone, anyway?...) 17:27 Irma sorry for my abscence ...where is the discussion up to? 17:26 shaun hi Irma - we've been talking about the site's content 17:26 Irma Are you about Russel? 17:25 Irma g'day all 17:24 kados russ: you getting this? ;-) 17:24 kados russ: there's also an official LibLime press release on my appointment as RM: http://liblime.com/c/koha24RM.html 17:23 kados shaun: before the conference? ;-) 17:23 chris i dont write html 17:23 chris dont ask me 17:23 shaun chris: how difficult would it be to touch it up for xhtml 1.0 (i.e. closing tags)? 17:23 kados russ: 55,000 records, 1,100 borrowers, 17:21 chris i like the icons, and book images 17:21 kados russ: let me find nbbc's stats 17:20 shaun chris: looking good 17:20 chris ohh that did come out nice kados 17:19 kados our search didn't work for at least a week after launch ;-) 17:19 kados search even works ;-) 17:19 kados nice! 17:19 chris http://new.koha.org/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=koha&method=and&format=builtin-long&sort=score&words=chris&submit=Go 17:18 kados russ: and you can link directly to the Koha intranet http://koha.liblime.com 17:18 kados russ: came out nicely I think 17:18 kados russ: libcat.nbbc.edu 17:18 kados russ: you can add Northland Bible Baptist College to the list of opacs 17:17 kados russ: just getting to the website now 17:16 shaun the favicon.ico should be replaced with rach's new, slicker logos 17:16 shaun an easy one - the javascript(s) in the head should be moved into a file and the headers all pointed to that file (just cuts down unnecessary code) 17:15 shaun :-) 17:15 rach that won't be us doing that - but you can use Kea's excellent tattle tale feature to see who's been introducing them and beat them up :-) 17:14 shaun so <strong> instead of font-weight: bold; etc 17:14 shaun i'd like to see it all just happily using tags unless it's absolutely necessary to do some inline styling 17:13 russ i think there may be a bit of both 17:13 russ right no idea on that one - i havent been playing with the styles 17:13 shaun is that something you intended or what the html editor has done? 17:13 shaun in the related pages links, the h2 "Why Koha?", and the bold subheadings 17:11 shaun i've been noticing you have put some additional styles in - take the /about-koha/ page, for example 17:10 russ i'll sort something there 17:10 russ ah righto 17:10 shaun also, if we could find two more links for the quick links, that would be great - i designed the fourth (now third) row around having the same box size 17:09 russ :-) 17:09 russ so i would expect that list to grow 17:09 russ well the hope is that is will be a living website 17:08 shaun (^ wow, that's a lot of stuff to do) 17:08 shaun rss feed meta link also needs to point at the aggregator 17:07 shaun meta tags need to be sorted - i'd imagine you'd be better at that than me but i put in some provisional ones 17:06 shaun there's then my long-awaited css patch, which should sort the wrapping h2s, the feature row on the homepage, the not-so-nice green links on the homepage and a few other minor things 17:06 russ we will do some checking before and after the go live 17:06 russ no worries 17:05 shaun not tonight (i've got less than 10 minutes left, then bed) 17:05 russ maybe i need to trigger them 17:04 russ i thought i just sorted those 17:04 russ can you give me url's 17:04 shaun russ: there's still a few pages with the original message i left there, they need doing, but otherwise the related links are all good 17:03 russ that has been done for the most part shaun 17:00 shaun # the related links box should be filled in with appropriate links, and commented out on pages where there are no related links 16:59 shaun # i need to sort out the breadcrumbs that i broke 16:59 shaun (that last one: writing/prose style) 16:58 shaun # someone (Irma?) needs to come along and make the general style the same, and check for common errors like greengrocer's apostrophes, very long sentences, links which consume more of the text than they should etc 16:58 russ i'll spec that over the next week or so 16:58 russ # world map - i have an idea that i am going to document - the map idea just isnt working - i think a little directory db like oscommerce has is a better idea something people can search over by country and library type 16:57 shaun chris: great 16:56 shaun # i'd like to see the download page a bit better written 16:56 chris im doing htdig now 16:56 shaun # the search box needs to be changed to point at the htdig page, with the right variables, and i will also construct the search results page when i get around to it... 16:56 rach cya 16:55 chris cya pate 16:55 pate-lurk gotta run ... 16:54 shaun # a katipo tech needs to look at cgi-irc and get it pointing at #koha-lobby, and also set up logbot for #koha-lobby 16:54 shaun from my perspective: 16:54 russ you start :-) 16:54 russ ok so on the website things still left to do 16:53 shaun yep 16:53 russ shaun you there? 16:50 russ angela has been working on the website and she has one 16:49 chris mason sorta has one 16:49 chris richard has 1, and he has been doing lots of koha work lately 16:48 chris 2 for me, 2 for rach and si, 1 for pate, 1 for owen, 1 for russ ... who else 16:46 rach steve T had a border collie I recall 16:43 pate heh 16:43 si nope, they don't care either way :-) 16:43 russ i reckon 16:42 chris we need to make a dogs.koha.org :) 16:42 pate we adopted a dog (a rescued chocolate lab) 16:41 chris excellent 16:41 pate-lurk hiya si 16:41 pate-lurk yeah, the job's treating me well, and eliza's in her second week at the Uni 16:41 pate-lurk sorry, had an urgent request 16:36 si are yo ukeeping well, pat? 16:36 si ohh, pat's in 16:35 chris hows the new job treating ya pate? and has your daughter started school? 16:30 pate-lurk well, i cc:ed your info address 16:29 kados pate-lurk: so it's super fast 16:29 kados pate-lurk: and it's got a fiber backbone 16:29 kados pate-lurk: our server-farm is in seattle ;-) 16:28 kados pate-lurk: I think I'd recommend a hosted solution for those folks 16:26 kados pate-lurk: am now 16:24 chris id forward it on to joshua, he might be able to help out, or know someone who can 16:23 chris i drove past that 16:23 chris ohh the academy of fine art 16:23 chris ta, date::manip is still in use in C4::Search, which circulation.pl is using so ill have to fix taht too to get the speed i want 16:22 pate-lurk btw, congrats on the profiling work (from your blog) 16:21 pate-lurk and that says something for them ... Seattle Academy of Fine Art 16:21 chris right 16:21 pate-lurk it's in seattle though 16:20 pate-lurk well, it's not like i get a lot of requests ... this is the first one in quite a while 16:20 chris for free support anyway 16:20 chris its trying to point ppl at the lists as first port of call 16:19 chris so i think as that filters through you should have less requests 16:18 pate-lurk cool 16:17 chris :) the new website is about to be soft launched today 16:17 pate-lurk i should probably pull my name of the contact page ... i'm not sure that I'm much help beyond pointing to people and giving encouragement at this point 16:16 pate-lurk yeah, i'm asking him to subscribe 16:15 chris hmm not that i know of, you could cc the win32 list? 16:15 pate-lurk hiya chris 16:14 pate-lurk anyone i can CC: on an email to him 16:14 pate-lurk i'm talking to someone in seattle who's looking for help with Koha on win32 16:14 chris heya pate 16:13 pate-lurk kados, you around? 15:43 russ shaun - you still around? 13:03 meushi hi owen 13:02 owen Hi meushi