Time Nick Message 09:51 paul if you have suggestions, feel free to send them, i'll meet them next week 09:51 paul + a list of other features still to define. 09:50 paul + i suggested they should candidate as QA manager 09:50 paul he'll 1st work on SUDOC bulkmarcimport 09:50 owen Yes 09:50 paul Ineo ? 09:50 owen paul, any more information about whether they'll be committing back to CVS? 09:47 paul (the other one is...) 09:47 paul 1 is OSS & library skillfull, & is OSS & Perl skillfull 09:46 kados paul: great! 09:46 paul they have selected 2 candidates to hire to work on Koha at full time 09:46 kados paul: great ... what's the latest? 09:46 paul kados & joshua : i spoke with Ineo chairwoman today. 09:44 kados hi everyone 09:44 owen Hi paul 09:44 paul hi owen 09:44 paul right ;-) 09:44 owen He got a couple of invitations, didn't he? 09:43 hdl Paul is back and has quite good news. 09:43 hdl Working on a migration. 09:42 owen What's new? 09:42 owen Hi hdl 09:42 hdl hi owen 07:34 genji sleep becomeith. 07:34 genji okay, my mind has just turned into swiss cheese. back in 8 hours. 07:22 genji whats the difference between the $flags and the $accessflagshash returned from getpatroninformation? 07:10 genji course, the memberflag pl having $issues in it is abit wierd. 07:10 paul hello sylvain 07:10 Sylvain hi 07:08 paul ;-) 07:08 genji # July 26, 2002 (my birthday!) 07:08 genji # Written by Steve Tonnesen 07:08 genji # script to edit a member's flags 07:08 paul you know steve birthday ? 07:07 genji eh, poor guy. Steve Tonnesen did the member-flags.pl on 26 july, 2002. His birthday. 07:06 genji still, it was a good exercise 07:05 genji afterwards. 07:05 genji Ya. someone said it was in the argentina code. 07:05 paul (except it was already in argentina code, but i'm afraid we've failed to include it into official code...) 07:05 genji Ya. hmm.. wasn't my idea though. 07:04 paul great ! 07:04 genji k. what it does, is allows the librarian (one with add/modify borrowers) to upload a picture (currently jpg only) to koha, and it displays in modify users and circulations when the card is scanned in. 07:03 paul (doing this atm) 07:03 paul (70 commits on rel_2_2 and 120 on head to look at) 07:02 paul i haven't investigated what it does yet. 06:59 genji what did you think of my borrowerimages addition? 06:57 genji okay, working on it now. 06:56 genji eh, ya, wherever the flag list comes from currently. 06:56 paul flag list coming from a table. 06:55 paul right. 06:55 genji int(11), using the borrower's flags template, modified abit. 06:54 paul mmm... right 06:54 genji new field. 06:54 genji err 06:54 genji -nods- new table? nah, just a new flag. 06:54 paul (table, without s) 06:54 paul requires a new tables, but quite easy otherwise. 06:54 paul every newly created patron having the default flag of it's category. 06:53 genji this would be a easy code, i imagine. 06:53 paul yes : having default flags attached to borrower category. 06:52 genji -nods- a straight initial copy would be useful? 06:52 paul so it could be useful 06:51 paul OK, I agree 06:51 genji right, but big library, with varying degrees of responsibility, would need more than 1 librarian category. 06:51 paul at least, that's how it works for most of my libraries 06:50 paul (with only 1 category for librarian) 06:50 paul & borrower types are usually used for patrons 06:50 paul yes, but pratically, all those flags are related to librarian stuff 06:49 genji all that appear in borrowers - modify flags. 06:48 paul (give me an example) 06:48 paul which flag could be set ? 06:47 genji useful? 06:47 genji what do you think? 06:47 genji and thats it. 06:47 genji and upon borrower creation, the flags get copied to the borrower. 06:47 genji and set that flag field to the desired flags for the category. 06:46 paul (ie : not sure it's used by anyone, as opac access is unchecked) 06:46 genji right. well.. the next step is to have borrower categories with a flag field. 06:46 paul & i'm not sure it's really useful 06:45 paul what we have is : a set of default permissions activated when user is created 06:45 genji or prehaps we create a second field called parent.. where a 1 signifies that the flag is set to inherit, and follows the borrower's changes? 06:45 paul depends on what you mean here 06:44 genji well.. i think we have the permissions inheriting just for the initial borrower creation? 06:43 paul maybe in the future the idea could come back 06:43 genji ahh. 06:43 paul it's just that it seems to be a too big stuff 06:43 paul nothing. 06:42 genji k. umm. whats wrong with the idea of borrower category inherit? 06:41 genji heu 06:41 paul genji : i'm here (back from lunch) 06:14 genji paul, still here? 04:56 paul so, we think we can't do it yet. 04:56 paul we spoke of this & Koha DB scheme is not at all organized to do such things. 04:56 paul genji, to answer( late) your question : 02:48 paul (on phone) 02:47 genji paul? you there? 02:45 hdl hello 02:41 genji read kados idea of borrower categories inherited permissions? 02:40 genji hello paul. hey, you a programmer right? 02:38 paul hello aussi 02:38 osmoze hello 00:23 genji okay, tomorrow then. 00:23 genji mmmm.. pie..... 00:23 rach no just got in, am eating pie, then dog class at 6pm 00:23 genji oh. okay. don't have time now eh? 00:22 rach sorry genji - i'll be around with more time tommorrow i think 21:25 genji they always venture this way. hmm. 21:25 genji heheh. 21:25 jo yep 21:25 russ i think you are after #hlt 21:25 russ hi beth 21:25 genji nope. 21:24 jo and I'm picking your not Simon 21:24 genji eh, prehaps its better to say, hello levin, then. 21:24 jo hi Beth here Jo will be back down in two minutes 21:23 genji hello jo. 21:20 jo hey Simon 20:58 genji hrm.. she said she'd be free... oh well. k.. ill wait. 20:57 russ sorry genji - she is in a meeting most of this afternoon 20:30 genji available, rach? 17:14 genji ahh.. okay. 17:14 shaun then to quote russ: "We are going with Mambo for koha.org - openCMS is too steep a learning curve." 17:13 shaun so what we want to *get* out of this project other than a fab new koha site is something we can do a proper test of open cms with 17:12 shaun ok - we don't have anything particularly against mambo, I'm sure it's a fine piece of software, but we've identified open CMS as a good candidate for doing large info websites - which is something we're into, and wanting to find a good product for 17:12 shaun genji: the original plan was to use opencms - to quote rach: 17:09 genji hmm.... why Mambo over Kea? hrm... ill wait till thursday. 17:06 genji k. 17:06 shaun so it's 49 hours' time (decimals, they make my brain work numerically) 17:06 russ so thursday - sorry my mistake 17:06 russ kiwi time - yep 17:06 genji that isn't tomorrow... 17:05 genji its on at thursday 11am, russ? 17:05 russ ah right 17:05 genji its tuesday today.. 17:05 russ http://tinyurl.com/a6kjj 17:05 genji New Zealand. 17:04 shaun thursday for me as well - where abouts are you, genji? 17:04 genji when is this mambo discussion, russ? 17:04 genji hrm... says thursday on my timeanddate thing.... 17:01 russ i'll catch you tomorrow for the mambo discussion 17:01 shaun ok, thanks for coming 17:00 russ wee problem on another site that needs my attention 17:00 russ sorry shaun i have to go 17:00 russ :-) 17:00 shaun not often you can say that about any page in lynx :p 16:58 russ the content page looks great in lynx 16:58 russ yeah i can see 16:57 shaun hehe, i've been there ;-) 16:56 russ so that is all good 16:56 russ i get no errors or warnings from my firefox HTML Validator plugin 16:56 russ otherwise it is looking all good 16:55 russ i think the major one is the image on the homepage 16:54 russ they can detract from the page heading sometimes which is not good 16:54 russ yeah good point 16:53 shaun they seemed to get in the way on the left 16:52 russ just thinking about it 16:52 russ not that i think that is a bad thing 16:52 russ the breadcrumbs are in a position that i have seen used before 16:51 shaun have you picked up anything else on the content page? 16:49 russ it will be one of the first things i ask ryan :-) 16:48 russ must say that was one thing i though was a bit poor with it 16:48 russ would require lots of different navigation menus items or what ever they are called 16:48 russ hmm yeah - i was looking at that 16:47 russ like with case studies, we would end up with quite a number of seperate pages in that section 16:47 shaun i'm not sure about how feasible that is with mambo 16:47 russ you just see the features link 16:47 russ but if you are on faq 16:47 russ you see the other pages 16:46 russ so if you are in features 16:46 russ just to show the nav expanded for the section you are in 16:46 russ i think it would be better 16:46 russ then the precedent has been set for all pages to be seen in the nav 16:46 russ well i just think that if we get more pages under some of the other sections 16:45 shaun always expanded, but if you would suggest otherwise i'm just as happy for that 16:45 russ yeah case study box look much better now 16:45 shaun (btw i've fixed up the case study box on the hp) 16:44 russ would the features section always be expanded? or is that just to show what the navigation would look like for a section with subpages? 16:44 shaun yep 16:44 russ http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/content.php 16:44 russ on the content page shaun - looking at the navigation 16:42 russ maybe if it was as wide as the image above it that would look better 16:42 russ umm i still think the case study box is a little narrow 16:41 shaun anything else for the homepage? 16:40 shaun ok, i'll have a go at that 16:39 russ yep 16:39 owen Sounds worth a try to me 16:39 shaun what d'you mean? split it into the background, an <h2> and an <img>? 16:38 russ is it possible to do them as layers on that image? 16:38 russ i dont think they will 16:37 shaun that's a point - although i had assumed that the maintainer of the homepage would have access to photoshop or similar, which it's all layered in 16:36 genji ah. okay. can wait then. 16:35 genji when your free rach, would like a chat. 16:35 russ koha v2.2 16:35 russ by text i mean the heading 16:34 russ which will make it hard to change the photo and the text 16:34 russ is all one big image 16:34 russ http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/feature-bg.png 16:34 russ the blue box 16:34 russ http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/index.php 16:34 shaun i would say irc is the best (allows discussion) 16:33 russ compiled in a email, or in a new bugzilla component? 16:33 shaun yes, please 16:33 russ do you want them in irc now 16:32 russ there are a few things we have noticed 16:32 russ rach and i are having a look now 16:32 russ slowly getting that stuff together 16:31 shaun russ: i still haven't had a real look at the third row on the homepage - have you started compiling case studies? 16:30 genji kados, you awake? 16:23 russ i hear her coming 16:23 shaun genji: http://tinyurl.com/a6kjj, Ryan from liblime will be here, he's a mambo expert 16:22 shaun is rach around to give an opinion? 16:22 shaun thanks :-) 16:22 russ great job 16:22 russ it is looking really good though shaun 16:21 chris linux can do weird things with fonts, theres often a trick to sorting that out 16:21 russ still small fonts on my puter, but i get that with a number of sites 16:21 genji ah. okay. 16:21 russ shaun - looks good in konqueror to me 16:20 russ we will need help with proofing 16:20 russ we are going to use mambo for the koha site, and i think we have it covered at the moment 16:19 genji russ: you were going to get me to do some Kea CMS plugging? 16:18 russ hi genji 16:18 chris you can check it in konqueror eh russ? 16:18 russ on my firefox the text is a little small, but i think i have something up with my default font sizes 16:18 genji hello russ! Rach, welcome back! 16:18 shaun is rach looking? 16:18 russ looks great in ie on rach's computer 16:18 shaun much to my surprise, it renders just as well in IE6 - but i haven't had a chance to test in konqueror or safari 16:17 chris looks nice in my firefox 16:16 russ shaum - i am just going to have a look on a windows machine 16:14 russ having a look now 16:14 russ cool 16:11 shaun content page (faq used as sample): http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/content.php 16:11 shaun homepage: http://dev.shaunevans.co.uk:8080/koha/index.php 16:11 shaun hi russ 16:10 russ hi shaun 14:46 shaun hi owen 14:44 owen Hey shaun