Time Nick Message 10:09 tim g'morning kados 10:09 kados morning tim 09:41 owen HI 09:41 paul 'morning owen 09:36 kados :-) 09:35 kados oops ... 5 hours actually 09:35 kados T-MINUS 4 Hours 30 Minutes to Website / ID Meeting 09:23 paul no, the conversion is not slow, but debug a table with unreadable values is quite boring & hard... 09:22 kados ok ... well you know best ;-) 09:22 paul but i'm sure (100%) that it is useful when developping. 09:22 paul I'm not sure the marcxml SQL will be useful when we will release Koha 3.0 09:21 kados do you mean that the conversion is slow? 09:21 paul you are a developper, you want to do things fast ;-) 09:21 paul quite long... 09:21 kados which it does natively 09:21 paul believe me, it's VERY useful to have a readable xml version in the database. 09:21 kados you use Zebra to query and return the record in xml ;-) 09:20 kados no ... 09:20 paul now that you just have a iso22709 version of the marc record, you have a problem. 09:20 kados hmmm 09:20 paul how do you do (ignore biblioitems.itemtype for my sample) 09:20 paul as a developper, you need to verify that, for example, you don't have anymore biblios using that outdated itemtype. 09:19 kados will all three stay in sync? 09:19 paul yes, but answer this question : 09:19 paul * in zebra 09:19 paul * in biblioitems.marcxml, for our convenience 09:19 paul * in biblioitems.marc, in iso2709 form 09:18 kados hmmm ... but zebra has a very fast conversion built in 09:18 paul the complete record will be : 09:18 kados or inside Zebra (internal storage of Zebra)? 09:18 paul but I think we still need a readable version of the MARC record. That's why I created the marcxml field. 09:18 kados is the record also going to be stored on the hd somewhere? 09:18 paul right, sorry 09:17 kados s/not/now/ ? 09:17 paul the raw record is not in bilbioitems.marc 09:17 paul nope 09:17 kados will we still use marc_subfield_tabl? 09:17 paul & my bet it that bulkmarcimport will be something like 10 times faster ;-) 09:16 kados great 09:16 paul and simplified means easier to maintain ! 09:16 kados paul: thanks for breaking _my_ CVS ;-) 09:16 kados paul: I've been reading koha-devel and koha-cvs ... very exciting 09:16 kados paul: great news! 09:09 hdl Sure, but it is the same... indradg has those passwords. 09:08 paul should not be private in fact ;-) 09:05 hdl kados : I wanted to ping you.... to ask for some passwords... for koha-Live CD... Would you give them on private chat ? 09:02 hdl morning kados. 09:01 paul (but still nothing with zebra) 09:01 paul modify should work in 20mn I hope. 09:01 paul add works 09:01 paul today, working on items management. 09:01 kados morning 08:53 paul 'morning joshua. 08:52 osmoze oups, it's good now 08:51 osmoze connection timout for ping 08:50 kados did someone ping me? 06:18 Sylvain all :) 06:05 Sylvain hi akk 05:10 osmoze bon appetit 05:10 osmoze bon, j essaierai cet aprem :) 05:08 paul background-color:transparent; serait il ton ami ? 05:07 osmoze d 05:07 osmoze mais je trouve pas pour la reponse de ce labelsubfile 05:07 osmoze j ai rajouté un background dans .labelsubfield 05:06 osmoze comme si il y avait un transparent 05:06 osmoze mais la, il n y a pas de style, j ai le background de la page 05:05 paul mais je pense qu'on ne peut pas faire ca on plus : ce sont des ifnormations de même nature, donc avec un style identique. 05:05 paul ah, non, on ne parlait pas de la même chose alors. 05:04 osmoze en fait, c etait plus les resultat : je peux changer la couleur de "lieu de publication" mais pas la reponse "paris" je sais pas si c est la meme chose que tu parlais 04:58 osmoze ok :) 04:58 paul bref, c'est po possible... 04:58 paul (peut être qu'il faut que les 10 onglets ne soient pas en positionnement absolu) 04:57 paul je pense que j'ai pris la question dans le mauvais sens, mais je n'ai pas trouvé quel était le bon sens ;-) 04:57 paul ca semble impossible. 04:57 paul j'ai pas trouvé comment mettre un cadre de fond qui s'étend sur 10 onglets positionnés en absolu. 04:57 paul c'est pas possible. 04:56 osmoze un cadre de fon je parle 04:56 osmoze paul, ou dois je rajouter une option pour avoir un cadre dans le marcdetail ? 04:49 osmoze :) je vais surement faire un deuxieme bandeau de degradé 04:47 paul (sauf le dégradé dans les h2, qui s'arrête un peu brutalement 04:47 paul osmoze, elle me plait pas mal ta feuille de style... 04:30 hdl YESSSS. 04:30 hdl So we agree on that point. 04:28 chris yeah i think closing the basket would be a good time to send the order 04:26 hdl In mine too.... 04:26 paul ) 04:26 paul (but no way to be sure 04:26 paul in my idea, closing means "i've just or i'll sent the order now" 04:25 paul hdl : closing a basket is mine. It's the only thing I've added to acquisition (with creating an order from a suggestion) 04:24 hdl Is this when order line is made or when basket is closed or sthg else I missed ? 04:24 hdl chris : Sorry LAST question : When is order supposed to be sent ? 04:00 chris no problem thanks for working on it :) 03:55 hdl Thanks a lot chris. 03:55 hdl I'll code with rrp... If needed, I will change. 03:54 chris ill ask her tomoroow 03:54 chris we should ask rosalie 03:54 chris i think its rrp 03:53 chris hmm good question 03:52 hdl should we send a letter with ecost *quantity or rrp * quantity to suppliers ? 03:50 chris hehe 03:50 hdl :) 03:50 hdl You know Life is a jungle oldboy ;;) 03:49 hdl :) 03:49 chris you cant trust suppliers :-) 03:49 chris but sometimes its over, sometimes its under 03:49 chris hopefully unitprice = ecost 03:49 hdl usually over or lower than ecost ? 03:48 chris and unitprice is the price that comes in on the invoice when the books actually arrive 03:48 chris ecost is rrp - any discounts you might get 03:48 chris so ecost is how much you budgeted for it, rrp = recomended replacement price 03:48 hdl I think it is rrp but need confirmation. 03:47 hdl so I should consider which cost if I want to ask for these books to my supplier ? 03:47 chris so its the actual price that was paid 03:46 chris hmm i think that is set when the items are received 03:46 hdl About unitprice ? 03:46 hdl Why not. 03:45 chris if that would be useful 03:45 chris we could store the ordernumber in item.notes 03:44 hdl ok. 03:44 chris nope ... from the budget point of view, they only need to know how many were ordered, how many were received and how much they paid 03:44 hdl But that's not THAT important. 03:43 hdl so, that could help but there is no way to know which item comes from which order. 03:42 chris so we know when each individual item was received 03:42 chris the dateaccessioned is stored in the items table 03:41 chris in aqorders 03:41 chris we only store the date of the last one 03:41 hdl ok. 03:41 chris they should help 03:41 chris hdl, ill send our plain templates through that we are using for 2.2.2 when im at work tomorrow 03:33 hdl Many Thanks. 03:33 hdl there is a receivedate but should get more than one. Should we save only the last one ? How could we store the number of parcel ? 03:33 hdl how do you manage partial supplies ? I ordered 3 books 1 arrived, still awaiting 2.... 03:33 hdl the last question i already asked : 03:33 hdl would you mind sending me your templates and codes for me to inquiry about what could work best in our acquisition module ? 03:27 hdl I think this is willed but which one is the good one if I want to tell my supplier you could earn that much if you would be so kind as to send me these books ;) (to tell it polite way) 03:26 hdl Another question, unitprice seems not to be saved at first, only ecost and rrp are. 03:25 hdl Unless you N-Z folks have different code and template. 03:24 hdl But it seems that it is not saved. 03:24 hdl I mean, in newbiblio.tmpl, you can provide branch information. 03:24 hdl I wonder when branch is taken into account when ordering a book. 03:22 chris yep 03:21 hdl are you there ? 03:21 hdl chris ? a few questions on acquisition module. 03:00 paul sauf qu'évidemment il n'y a aucune balise -ie- puisque IE est LE standard, donc pourquoi s'embétter à préciser que c'est spécifique à IE... 03:00 osmoze ok ok :) je vais gogoliser un peu sur les css ce matin 03:00 paul par exemple -moz- pour mozilla, -ie- pour IE, -op- pour Opéra ... 02:59 paul celui ci permet en effet aux navigateurs de créer leurs propres règles avec un préfixe spécifique 02:59 paul ou plutôt sont des extensions du standard. 02:59 paul toutes les balises -moz- sont hors standard 02:58 osmoze d ailleurs, une remarque, les editeur css n accepte pas la balise -moz-xxx bizarre... 02:58 osmoze :) 02:57 paul un peu long, mais au moins on sait combien de temps ca va prendre ! 02:57 osmoze :) 02:57 osmoze hum... ok 02:56 paul sinon, l'autre solution c'est de repartir de la feuille initiale et de réappliquer tes changements 1 par 1 pour voir celui qui fait planter. 02:56 osmoze non plus :( 02:55 paul il y a peu de place entre le bord de la zone de saisie et le bloc 02:55 osmoze mem a 1 ca monte pas 02:55 paul et pour les bloc20 et bloc60, tu dois aussi pouvoir diminuer la margin-right 02:55 osmoze non 02:54 paul par exemple 02:54 paul width: 5em; 02:54 paul une autre idée : diminue la lageur de label 02:50 paul je peux voir ta feuille de style ? 02:49 osmoze ca change rien :( 02:48 paul non, plutôt dans a (ou c'est la valeur par défaut) ou dans button 02:47 paul si tu fais ca, ca va être rigolo :-D 02:47 osmoze dans body ? 02:46 paul par exemple ? 02:46 paul si tu rajoutes display:inline; 02:46 paul ) 02:46 paul (ou de button 02:46 osmoze hum...surement ^^ 02:46 paul tu as du trafiquer les propriétés de a 02:46 osmoze meme à 2 ca passe a la ligne alors que l ecran permet largement 02:46 osmoze hum...bizarrement non 02:45 paul là aussi, c'est une question de place normalement 02:44 osmoze c est dommage que les petite carre de recherche dictionnaire avec les points se mettent a la ligne ^^ 02:42 osmoze ok merci :) ^^ 02:42 paul non, ca se met à coté quand il y a la place. Mets la police en 8px, ca devrait se mettre cote à cote ;-) 02:42 osmoze oui :) 02:41 paul tu veux dire les 2 cadres de recherche titre/auteur/... et code barre/... 02:41 paul salut js 02:39 osmoze bonjour paul, dans le test graphique de l opac sur ta machine, tu mets dans la page recherche les deux cadres au meme niveau, comment as tu fais ? Cela viens de la page search.tmpl ou c est dans le css ? 01:36 osmoze hello 19:08 thd kados: Does your search fail to return any expected record or too many other records in addition to the expected record? 17:19 thd kados: are you available now? 16:38 tim I really didn't know how to write it that way either, but I could see what it was supposed to do. 16:37 tim except I didn't know how to write it the other way :) 16:37 owen I see, thanks chris 16:37 chris nice work tim :) 16:36 tim Woohoo! I guessed it. 16:36 chris } 16:36 chris $err{errbadcode}=1; 16:36 chris if ($code eq 'BadBarcode'){ 16:36 chris its a lazy way of writing this 16:35 owen What's going on with the parentheses? 16:35 owen i don't understand this: $err{errbadcode} = ($code eq 'BadBarcode'); 15:51 hdl kados, do you have a problem with sf ? 14:46 kados cool 14:46 thd kados: we will see what happens. I have been researching related issues late last night. 14:45 kados (no guarantees though ;-) 14:44 kados how about 6ish 14:42 thd kados: Ok. when is later? 14:40 thd kados: why are the records wrong? Is your query too imprecise? 14:40 kados thd: if you want we can discuss it later today ... right now I've got some work to do ;-) 14:39 kados thd: well ... the script will find records and get their 050 fields ... but usually they are the wrong records ;-) 14:39 thd kados: what do you mean by accurate? 14:38 kados thd: nope ... I wrote a connection manager and don't have the prob now 14:38 kados thd: though you can retrieve information ;-) 14:38 thd kados: I thought that were having trouble with more than 30 or 40 records at a time. 14:37 kados thd: everything in that script works correctly but I've found that it's not a very accurate way to retrieve correct information ;-) 14:36 kados seems to work fine 14:36 kados thd: nope ... I built my own connection manager 14:36 thd kados: have you examined the timeout option for Net::Z39.50 or Net-Z3950-AsyncZ ? 14:30 kados it's counter intuitive I know 14:29 kados so if you wanted to make an item notforloan (for real) 14:29 kados it's customizable 14:29 kados etc 14:29 kados 3 = missing 14:29 kados 2 = on reserve 14:28 kados 1 = checked out 14:28 kados 0 = available 14:28 kados so you've got a mapping 14:28 kados nope ... notforloan is linked to item status 14:27 owen notforloan is a valid condition as well. That should also block reserves 14:23 kados so that line should read $norequests = 0 unless (($itm->{'wthdrawn'}) || ($itm->{'itemlost'}) || (!$itm->{'itemnumber'})); 14:19 owen Isn't that how it was working? 14:17 owen When there are no items, or all items are lost or cancelled 14:16 kados owen: when do you want an item to be unreservable? 14:15 kados $norequests = 0 unless $itm->{'notforloan'}; 14:15 kados foreach my $itm (@items) { 14:15 kados my $norequests = 1; 12:59 thd owen: try howling :) 12:58 thd kados: Are you there? 12:57 thd kados: and then I have also found a timeout option.