Time Nick Message
12:57 thd kados: and then I have also found a timeout option.
12:58 thd kados: Are you there?
12:59 thd owen: try howling :)
14:15 kados my $norequests = 1;
14:15 kados foreach my $itm (@items) {
14:15 kados $norequests = 0 unless $itm->{'notforloan'};
14:16 kados owen: when do you want an item to be unreservable?
14:17 owen When there are no items, or all items are lost or cancelled
14:19 owen Isn't that how it was working?
14:23 kados so that line should read $norequests = 0 unless (($itm->{'wthdrawn'}) || ($itm->{'itemlost'}) || (!$itm->{'itemnumber'}));
14:27 owen notforloan is a valid condition as well. That should also block reserves
14:28 kados nope ... notforloan is linked to item status
14:28 kados so you've got a mapping
14:28 kados 0 = available
14:28 kados 1 = checked out
14:29 kados 2 = on reserve
14:29 kados 3 = missing
14:29 kados etc
14:29 kados it's customizable
14:29 kados so if you wanted to make an item notforloan (for real)
14:30 kados it's counter intuitive I know
14:36 thd kados: have you examined the timeout option for Net::Z39.50 or Net-Z3950-AsyncZ ?
14:36 kados thd: nope ... I built my own connection manager
14:36 kados seems to work fine
14:37 kados thd: everything in that script works correctly but I've found that it's not a very accurate way to retrieve correct information ;-)
14:38 thd kados: I thought that were having trouble with more than 30 or 40 records at a time.
14:38 kados thd: though you can retrieve information ;-)
14:38 kados thd: nope ... I wrote a connection manager and don't have the prob now
14:39 thd kados: what do you mean by accurate?
14:39 kados thd: well ... the script will find records and get their 050 fields ... but usually they are the wrong records ;-)
14:40 kados thd: if you want we can discuss it later today ... right now I've got some work to do ;-)
14:40 thd kados: why are the records wrong? Is your query too imprecise?
14:42 thd kados: Ok. when is later?
14:44 kados how about 6ish
14:45 kados (no guarantees though ;-)
14:46 thd kados: we will see what happens. I have been researching related issues late last night.
14:46 kados cool
15:51 hdl kados, do you have a problem with sf ?
16:35 owen i don't understand this: $err{errbadcode} = ($code eq 'BadBarcode');
16:35 owen What's going on with the parentheses?
16:36 chris its a lazy way of writing this
16:36 chris if ($code eq 'BadBarcode'){
16:36 chris $err{errbadcode}=1;
16:36 chris }
16:36 tim Woohoo! I guessed it.
16:37 chris nice work tim :)
16:37 owen I see, thanks chris
16:37 tim except I didn't know how to write it the other way :)
16:38 tim I really didn't know how to write it that way either, but I could see what it was supposed to do.
17:19 thd kados: are you available now?
19:08 thd kados: Does your search fail to return any expected record or too many other records in addition to the expected record?
01:36 osmoze hello
02:39 osmoze bonjour paul, dans le test graphique de l opac sur ta machine, tu mets dans la page recherche les deux cadres au meme niveau, comment as tu fais ? Cela viens de la page search.tmpl ou c est dans le css ?
02:41 paul salut js
02:41 paul tu veux dire les 2 cadres de recherche titre/auteur/... et code barre/...
02:42 osmoze oui :)
02:42 paul non, ca se met à coté quand il y a la place. Mets la police en 8px, ca devrait se mettre cote à cote ;-)
02:42 osmoze ok merci :) ^^
02:44 osmoze c est dommage que les petite carre de recherche dictionnaire avec les points se mettent a la ligne ^^
02:45 paul là aussi, c'est une question de place normalement
02:46 osmoze hum...bizarrement non
02:46 osmoze meme à 2 ca passe a la ligne alors que l ecran permet largement
02:46 paul tu as du trafiquer les propriétés de a
02:46 osmoze hum...surement ^^
02:46 paul (ou de button
02:46 paul )
02:46 paul si tu rajoutes display:inline;
02:46 paul par exemple ?
02:47 osmoze dans body ?
02:47 paul si tu fais ca, ca va être rigolo :-D
02:48 paul non, plutôt dans a (ou c'est la valeur par défaut) ou dans button
02:49 osmoze ca change rien :(
02:50 paul je peux voir ta feuille de style ?
02:54 paul une autre idée : diminue la lageur de label
02:54 paul width: 5em;
02:54 paul par exemple
02:55 osmoze non
02:55 paul et pour les bloc20 et bloc60, tu dois aussi pouvoir diminuer la margin-right
02:55 osmoze mem a 1 ca monte pas
02:55 paul il y a peu de place entre le bord de la zone de saisie et le bloc
02:56 osmoze non plus :(
02:56 paul sinon, l'autre solution c'est de repartir de la feuille initiale et de réappliquer tes changements 1 par 1 pour voir celui qui fait planter.
02:57 osmoze hum... ok
02:57 osmoze :)
02:57 paul un peu long, mais au moins on sait combien de temps ca va prendre !
02:58 osmoze :)
02:58 osmoze d ailleurs, une remarque, les editeur css n accepte pas la balise -moz-xxx bizarre...
02:59 paul toutes les balises -moz- sont hors standard
02:59 paul ou plutôt sont des extensions du standard.
02:59 paul celui ci permet en effet aux navigateurs de créer leurs propres règles avec un préfixe spécifique
03:00 paul par exemple -moz- pour mozilla, -ie- pour IE, -op- pour Opéra ...
03:00 osmoze ok ok :) je vais gogoliser un peu sur les css ce matin
03:00 paul sauf qu'évidemment il n'y a aucune balise -ie- puisque IE est LE standard, donc pourquoi s'embétter à préciser que c'est spécifique à IE...
03:21 hdl chris ? a few questions on acquisition module.
03:21 hdl are you there ?
03:22 chris yep
03:24 hdl I wonder when branch is taken into account when ordering a book.
03:24 hdl I mean, in newbiblio.tmpl, you can provide branch information.
03:24 hdl But it seems that it is not saved.
03:25 hdl Unless you N-Z folks have different code and template.
03:26 hdl Another question, unitprice seems not to be saved at first, only ecost and rrp are.
03:27 hdl I think this is willed but which one is the good one if I want to tell my supplier you could earn that much if you would be so kind as to send me these books ;) (to tell it polite way)
03:33 hdl would you mind sending me your templates and codes for me to inquiry about what could work best in our acquisition module ?
03:33 hdl the last question i already asked :
03:33 hdl how do you manage partial supplies ? I ordered 3 books 1 arrived, still awaiting 2....
03:33 hdl there is a receivedate but should get more than one. Should we save only the last one ? How could we store the number of parcel ?
03:33 hdl Many Thanks.
03:41 chris hdl, ill send our plain templates through that we are using for 2.2.2 when im at work tomorrow
03:41 chris they should help
03:41 hdl ok.
03:41 chris we only store the date of the last one
03:41 chris in aqorders
03:42 chris the dateaccessioned is stored in the items table
03:42 chris so we know when each individual item was received
03:43 hdl so, that could help but there is no way to know which item comes from which order.
03:44 hdl But that's not THAT important.
03:44 chris nope ... from the budget point of view, they only need to know how many were ordered, how many were received and how much they paid
03:44 hdl ok.
03:45 chris we could store the ordernumber in item.notes
03:45 chris if that would be useful
03:46 hdl Why not.
03:46 hdl About unitprice ?
03:46 chris hmm i think that is set when the items are received
03:47 chris so its the actual price that was paid
03:47 hdl so I should consider which cost if I want to ask for these books to my supplier ?
03:48 hdl I think it is rrp but need confirmation.
03:48 chris so ecost is how much you budgeted for it, rrp = recomended replacement price
03:48 chris ecost is rrp - any discounts you might get
03:48 chris and unitprice is the price that comes in on the invoice when the books actually arrive
03:49 hdl usually over or lower than ecost ?
03:49 chris hopefully unitprice = ecost
03:49 chris but sometimes its over, sometimes its under
03:49 chris you cant trust suppliers :-)
03:49 hdl :)
03:50 hdl You know Life is a jungle oldboy ;;)
03:50 hdl :)
03:50 chris hehe
03:52 hdl should we send a letter with ecost *quantity or rrp * quantity to suppliers ?
03:53 chris hmm good question
03:54 chris i think its rrp
03:54 chris we should ask rosalie
03:54 chris ill ask her tomoroow
03:55 hdl I'll code with rrp... If needed, I will change.
03:55 hdl Thanks a lot chris.
04:00 chris no problem thanks for working on it :)
04:24 hdl chris : Sorry LAST question : When is order supposed to be sent ?
04:24 hdl Is this when order line is made or when basket is closed or sthg else I missed ?
04:25 paul hdl : closing a basket is mine. It's the only thing I've added to acquisition (with creating an order from a suggestion)
04:26 paul in my idea, closing means "i've just or i'll sent the order now"
04:26 paul (but no way to be sure
04:26 paul )
04:26 hdl In mine too....
04:28 chris yeah i think closing the basket would be a good time to send the order
04:30 hdl So we agree on that point.
04:30 hdl YESSSS.
04:47 paul osmoze, elle me plait pas mal ta feuille de style...
04:47 paul (sauf le dégradé dans les h2, qui s'arrête un peu brutalement
04:49 osmoze :) je vais surement faire un deuxieme bandeau de degradé
04:56 osmoze paul, ou dois je rajouter une option pour avoir un cadre dans le marcdetail ?
04:56 osmoze un cadre de fon je parle
04:57 paul c'est pas possible.
04:57 paul j'ai pas trouvé comment mettre un cadre de fond qui s'étend sur 10 onglets positionnés en absolu.
04:57 paul ca semble impossible.
04:57 paul je pense que j'ai pris la question dans le mauvais sens, mais je n'ai pas trouvé quel était le bon sens ;-)
04:58 paul (peut être qu'il faut que les 10 onglets ne soient pas en positionnement absolu)
04:58 paul bref, c'est po possible...
04:58 osmoze ok :)
05:04 osmoze en fait, c etait plus les resultat : je peux changer la couleur de "lieu de publication" mais pas la reponse "paris" je sais pas si c est la meme chose que tu parlais
05:05 paul ah, non, on ne parlait pas de la même chose alors.
05:05 paul mais je pense qu'on ne peut pas faire ca on plus : ce sont des ifnormations de même nature, donc avec un style identique.
05:06 osmoze mais la, il n y a pas de style, j ai le background de la page
05:06 osmoze comme si il y avait un transparent
05:07 osmoze j ai rajouté un background dans .labelsubfield
05:07 osmoze mais je trouve pas pour la reponse de ce labelsubfile
05:07 osmoze d
05:08 paul background-color:transparent; serait il ton ami ?
05:10 osmoze bon, j essaierai cet aprem :)
05:10 osmoze bon appetit
06:05 Sylvain hi akk
06:18 Sylvain all :)
08:50 kados did someone ping me?
08:51 osmoze connection timout for ping
08:52 osmoze oups, it's good now
08:53 paul 'morning joshua.
09:01 kados morning
09:01 paul today, working on items management.
09:01 paul add works
09:01 paul modify should work in 20mn I hope.
09:01 paul (but still nothing with zebra)
09:02 hdl morning kados.
09:05 hdl kados : I wanted to ping you.... to ask for some passwords... for koha-Live CD... Would you give them on private chat ?
09:08 paul should not be private in fact ;-)
09:09 hdl Sure, but it is the same... indradg has those passwords.
09:16 kados paul: great news!
09:16 kados paul: I've been reading koha-devel and koha-cvs ... very exciting
09:16 kados paul: thanks for breaking _my_ CVS ;-)
09:16 paul and simplified means easier to maintain !
09:16 kados great
09:17 paul & my bet it that bulkmarcimport will be something like 10 times faster ;-)
09:17 kados will we still use marc_subfield_tabl?
09:17 paul nope
09:17 paul the raw record is not in bilbioitems.marc
09:17 kados s/not/now/ ?
09:18 paul right, sorry
09:18 kados is the record also going to be stored on the hd somewhere?
09:18 paul but I think we still need a readable version of the MARC record. That's why I created the marcxml field.
09:18 kados or inside Zebra (internal storage of Zebra)?
09:18 paul the complete record will be :
09:18 kados hmmm ... but zebra has a very fast conversion built in
09:19 paul * in biblioitems.marc, in iso2709 form
09:19 paul * in biblioitems.marcxml, for our convenience
09:19 paul * in zebra
09:19 paul yes, but answer this question :
09:19 kados will all three stay in sync?
09:20 paul as a developper, you need to verify that, for example, you don't have anymore biblios using that outdated itemtype.
09:20 paul how do you do (ignore biblioitems.itemtype for my sample)
09:20 kados hmmm
09:20 paul now that you just have a iso22709 version of the marc record, you have a problem.
09:20 kados no ...
09:21 kados you use Zebra to query and return the record in xml ;-)
09:21 paul believe me, it's VERY useful to have a readable xml version in the database.
09:21 kados which it does natively
09:21 paul quite long...
09:21 paul you are a developper, you want to do things fast ;-)
09:21 kados do you mean that the conversion is slow?
09:22 paul I'm not sure the marcxml SQL will be useful when we will release Koha 3.0
09:22 paul but i'm sure (100%) that it is useful when developping.
09:22 kados ok ... well you know best ;-)
09:23 paul no, the conversion is not slow, but debug a table with unreadable values is quite boring & hard...
09:35 kados T-MINUS 4 Hours 30 Minutes to Website / ID Meeting
09:35 kados oops ... 5 hours actually
09:36 kados :-)
09:41 paul 'morning owen
09:41 owen HI
10:09 kados morning tim
10:09 tim g'morning kados