Time  Nick    Message
11:49 owen    It'll take some time to digest.
11:49 owen    The authorities help file reads, "authority help"
11:42 owen    kados (if you're there) do you know how authorities work?
08:01 kados   morning owen
08:01 paul    hi owen.
08:01 owen    g'mornin'
07:31 kados   Perl/Zoom is _very_ exciting
07:30 kados   that may clear up some of it as well
07:30 kados   there's also a small email from Sebastion on koha-zebra
07:30 kados   cool
07:30 kados   because he and I have been discussing the Perl/Zoom quite a bit this past week (as well as other things related to OpenSearch, etc.)
07:30 paul    i was investigating "embeeding the zebra" before writing this mail in fact. Just to try to understand. I understand quite well I think/hope, now.
07:29 kados   Mike Taylor will write you back lickety split ;-)
07:29 kados   ;-)
07:29 kados   week even
07:29 kados   describing what you'd like to do this wek
07:29 kados   is write a message to koha-zebra
07:29 kados   what I'd do
07:29 kados   we can access pretty much any source and have session cacheing, etc.
07:28 kados   whereas if we us the new perl/zoom that will be ready in October (maybe before)
07:28 paul    right.
07:28 kados   using it would limit us to local zebra sources
07:28 kados   well ... even if it did work
07:28 kados   right
07:28 kados   strange ... now I see it
07:28 paul    it seems no, it's zebra related
07:27 paul    (Embeeding the zebra, page 6, 2.1.2.3 "The Perl API")
07:27 kados   maybe the doc speaks of Net::Z3950?
07:27 kados   that's strange
07:26 paul    but in the doc indexdata wrote : "it is suppoerted & maintained by IndexData"
07:26 kados   second, it's based (I believe) on the older C libraries rather than the new Yaz/Zoom
07:26 paul    (that's why I get a 0% success on make test ...)
07:26 kados   because the third party stopped maintaining it
07:25 kados   it doesn't work with the latest version of Zebra
07:25 kados   first of all, that perl package is old and was developed by a third party
07:25 paul    (the doc "embeeding the zebra" speaking of it on page 6)
07:25 kados   ahh ... many many things ;-)
07:24 paul    the perl package that is in idzebra/perl ?
07:24 paul    what is the diff between zoom/perl and
07:24 paul    there's something that I don't understand well.
07:24 kados   what's up>?
07:24 kados   I do have a few minutes ;-)
07:22 paul    (french inside)
07:22 paul    http://actualite.free.fr/actu.pl?doc=insolite/3_2005-08-08T0530_FAP4291.xml
07:22 paul    some US ppl really have strange sports :
07:20 paul    (& zebra package nearby)
07:19 paul    do you have a few minuts
07:19 paul    'morning joshua
07:19 paul    ;-)
07:19 paul    you mean is a past life ?
07:19 kados   must have been a computer ;-)
04:38 hdl     ok
04:38 paul    ok tu me rappeles qd tu as réglé le pb ?
04:37 hdl     No. Je n'ai pas de son.
04:36 paul    c'était moi le pb.
04:36 paul    hdl, rappelle moi
04:07 paul    c'était son ordinateur ;-)
04:07 paul    owen is really early today, or is it just it's computer ???
04:05 hdl     ok.
04:04 paul    on peut s'appeler dans une petite 1/2H ?
04:04 paul    ca marche plutôt bien pour l'instant.
04:04 paul    (les Letters & actions)
04:04 paul    j'ai commité tout ce que j'avais à commiter
04:04 hdl     paul tu devais commiter des choses sur certains fichiers (Avant que je ne finisse lateorder.pl) C'est fait ? ou bien je m'occupe plutôt de la base IN2P3 à migrer aujourd'hui.
03:57 hdl     ou en faire un parsing ?
03:57 paul    t'inquiètes, je prend en charge.
03:56 hdl     Si tu veux. Mais il faudrait alors analyser les infos.
03:55 paul    (hdl : je vais au moins rajouter des nl2br pour rendre un peut plus clair...)
03:55 paul    ;-)
03:54 Sylvain bon bein allez moi j'vais m'occuper des lecteurs de l'ENSMP
03:54 hdl     Certes, mais c'es le marc::record qui est enregistré là.
03:54 paul    (même la colonne "infos", passablement illisible ;-) )
03:54 hdl     paul : je viens de commité des modifs de Acquisition.pm importantes pour  la gestion des branches indépendantes.
03:54 Sylvain en vacances jusqu'à fin aout et il revient en septembre mais pas pour trés lgtps si je me souviens bien
03:53 paul    hdl : tes logs ont l'air de bien fonctionner.
03:53 paul    matthieu est parti ou juste en vacances ?
03:53 Sylvain paul : laurent et victor sont la mais c'est tout. Et pour l'année prochaine, j'ai postulé à l'INTD mais je n'aurai la réponse qu'en octobre
03:52 paul    (trouvé la formation que tu voulais ?)
03:52 paul    tu en es ou de ton année prochaine ?
03:52 paul    sylvain : il y a du monde chez doxulting ou tu es tout seul ?
03:51 paul    moi z'aussi
03:51 hdl     Ca m'a fait rire.
03:49 paul    déjà vu
03:49 hdl     try this :http://www.jpcheney.org/rubriques/00000061.htm ;)
03:40 paul    enfin, au fond, ca ne me fait pas trop rire...
03:40 paul    http://www.vnunet.fr/actualite/securite/piratage/20050805008
03:40 paul    tiens, pour rigoler un bon coup :
03:38 Sylvain ouais lundi matin après le WE à déménager et le coucher à deux heures pour finir de monter les meubles ;)
03:38 paul    l'effet lundi matin surement...
03:38 Sylvain ohlala j'y étais pas du tout :)
03:38 paul    lol
03:38 paul    comme si tu avais peur de quelque chose
03:37 paul    ben oui, tu débarques ici et tu cries hiiiiiii !!!
03:37 Sylvain moi ?
03:35 paul    tiens, toi aussi quelqu'un t'a fait peur ???
03:33 Sylvain hi
03:26 paul    (et puis on  s'est levé tard 8H45 !!!, suite à biberon à 5H du matin...)
03:25 paul    pas encore, je bosse sur des mails en retard.
03:25 hdl     paul : tu as pu voir le viewlog.pl
03:04 hdl     Ca doit être calme.
03:04 paul    vivi
03:04 hdl     Tu es donc seul avec Jérémie et ton épouse ?
03:03 hdl     Oui.
03:03 paul    tant pis, je verrais noane la prochaine fois.
03:03 paul    j'ai eu tort, je n'en n'ai presque pas eu.
03:03 paul    j'ai failli t'appeler, mais j'ai eu peur des bouchons...
03:03 paul    je suis passé à 5km de chez toi samedi, en allant poser les enfants à Sète.
03:02 hdl     :)
02:58 paul    ou tu as eu peur ?
02:57 paul    tu t'es fait mal ?
02:56 hdl     hi
21:23 chris   i think the problem was 2.2.2b was a rush release to fix a critical bug in 2.2.2 and the version string wasnt set properly
21:22 chris   exactly :)
21:22 thd     chris: Oh, an installer issue :)  The template cannot read what is not there.
21:21 chris   yeah that will be setting the version string the installer wasnt putting it in /etc/koha.conf
21:20 thd     chris: now I remember the issue.  The  'b' in 2.2.2b was not reported.
21:13 thd     chris: nevermind, I was mistaken :)
21:11 chris   it just reads whats in /etc/koha.conf
21:10 chris   does for me
21:10 chris   Koha version2.2.2
21:10 chris   Server information
21:09 thd     chris: currently, the intranet template does not report the X in 2.2X
21:09 chris   done and committed
21:04 kados   right ...
21:04 chris   is all it needs to pass that thru to the template
21:04 owen    Heh heh...out in the wild.  So what they need is radio collars so we can track them!
21:04 kados   we could even automate the task with OpenSearch using rss ;-)
21:04 chris   my $kohaVersion = C4::Context->config("kohaversion");
21:03 chris   i was just doing my google around to find koha opacs out in the wild .. and thought about it
21:02 chris   heh
21:02 kados   kohasneakyverid for instance ;-)
21:01 kados   make sure that the identifier is unique
21:01 kados   we could do a real nice google query intext:kohaverid*
21:01 owen    Sounds like a good idea to me.
21:00 kados   great idea
21:00 chris   what do ppl think about putting it back in the default templates at least
21:00 kados   right ... good idea :-)
21:00 kados   I take it that's long gone ;-)
21:00 chris   it was purely so we could be nosey, and google around and find what versions ppl are running
21:00 kados   right
21:00 chris   steve tonnesen and I set it up so that there was a comment in the main opac page, that displayed the version number of the koha it was running
20:59 kados   heh ... can't wait for this one ;-)
20:59 chris   a while ago, way back version 1.2.2 i think
20:59 chris   random thought for the day
20:40 chris   most of the console based clients do
20:38 kados   thd: bitchX too i think
20:38 kados   thd: irssi does
20:38 thd     kados: which IRC clients report disconnection immediately?
20:28 kados   thd: I'm using prefix
20:23 thd     kados: not CQL
20:23 thd     kados: use CCL
20:22 thd     kados: sorry, I can go 20 minutes before X-chat informs me that I have been disconnected.
20:03 kados   thd: (though they don't support cql ... it segfaults)
20:03 kados   thd: I'm finally getting some results from melvvyl
20:03 kados   thd: I'm trying to figure out the best way to query to retrieve 050a, b
20:02 owen    I see
20:02 kados   owen: and 'Main collection'
20:01 kados   owen: they had 'Main Collection'
20:01 kados   owen: so there were a couple thousand items missing their itemtypes
20:01 kados   owen: and my hash for normalizing them wasn't complete
20:01 kados   owen: the old formats weren't normalized
20:01 owen    I see the Amazon images are there, thanks.
20:00 owen    What exactly was the itemtype problem?
20:00 kados   owen: I fixed the itemtypes prob and I'm loading in a new db right now
20:00 thd     kados: yes
20:00 chris   heya owen
20:00 kados   hope you don't hate what I've done with the place ;-)
19:58 kados   hey owen
19:55 kados   thd: you around?
17:02 kados   thanks even ;-)
17:02 kados   cool ... tahnks
17:00 chris   [WWW] Lele wrote a Python tool able to keep in sync various kinds of repository: it works for various revision control systems, so I'm actually using it to collect under darcs various pieces of software that compose a [WWW] Plone instance, digesting patches coming from three different VC, CVS, Subversion, Darcs and (still partially) Monotone, Codeville, Bazaar-NG and Mercurial, preserving history.
16:59 chris   its in debian unstable .. kinda looks like what you were after
16:59 chris   http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor
16:56 kados   chris: chris ping ;-)
16:52 kados   chris: what's up?
16:52 kados   chris: yep
16:47 chris   kados you about?
13:39 thd     kdaos: I think that is right, the problem does not appear in the MARC view where all columns are filled (I had been confused about that).  The problem is quite definite in the detail view, even if it requires close attention to spot.
13:21 thd     kados: keep working, but I have an idea about the display strangeness.  I suspect that it might go away if you populate empty columns.
13:01 thd     owen: I never traced that bug because my set regexes seemed to complex to find the bug easily and there is no shortage of problems to solve in the world :)
12:58 thd     owen: This regex bug appears only when parsing a 100s of lines, including the same original 20 or 30 lines, in a file when the match always fails for the problem lines.
12:56 thd     owen: This regex bug will not appear when parsing a 20 or 30 line file when the match for the problem lines always works.
12:54 thd     owen: A possibly similar issue is a bug I have observed a subtle bug in all regular expression engines that I have used.
12:52 thd     owen: Well maybe if there is a bug in my Gecko.  This problem is not easy to spot though.
12:50 owen    If kados doesn't see the problem, and I don't see the problem (which I don't), I'd guess it's a browser issue.
12:50 thd     owen: I would imagine that a particular point in a combined set of loops causes this.  It does not seem to cycle regularly so it would have to be a combination of loops if a loop point is the problem.
12:47 thd     owen: yes this cannot be very important, unless it is causing other problems that have not been noticed because a row of data might be missing in a similar way to a column missing for a particular row.
12:45 kados   yep
12:43 owen    Sounds like too rare a case to worry about today
12:35 thd     owen: yes like that one, but you need many more to find a problem.
12:33 thd     owen: I noticerd this in one particular record that Kados has where each issue of a periodical has a separate item for over 300.
12:32 owen    Like this page? http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=161684
12:31 thd     owen: the table representing holdings information in the opac detail or MARC views.
12:30 owen    What do you mean by holdings table?
12:30 thd     owen: In a very large holdings table, font size has slight changes in some rows and a column will disappear on some rows.
12:23 owen    thd, what problem are you talking about?
12:23 kados   :-)
12:20 thd     kados: Go back to your proposal writing :)
12:20 thd     kados: This could not be a very important problem unless it would cause other strangeness.  I can see this in both Firefox and Mozilla.
12:18 kados   note that I'm very busy today ;-)
12:18 kados   no idea ... looks fine in all my browsers
12:09 thd     kados: Netscape 4.77 cannot read the stylesheet so it looks terrible but without any row or column strangeness :)
12:02 thd     kados: I have difficulty presuming that it is a Firefox problem.  I will test Netscape 4.