Time Nick Message 11:49 owen It'll take some time to digest. 11:49 owen The authorities help file reads, "authority help" 11:42 owen kados (if you're there) do you know how authorities work? 08:01 kados morning owen 08:01 paul hi owen. 08:01 owen g'mornin' 07:31 kados Perl/Zoom is _very_ exciting 07:30 kados that may clear up some of it as well 07:30 kados there's also a small email from Sebastion on koha-zebra 07:30 kados cool 07:30 kados because he and I have been discussing the Perl/Zoom quite a bit this past week (as well as other things related to OpenSearch, etc.) 07:30 paul i was investigating "embeeding the zebra" before writing this mail in fact. Just to try to understand. I understand quite well I think/hope, now. 07:29 kados Mike Taylor will write you back lickety split ;-) 07:29 kados ;-) 07:29 kados week even 07:29 kados describing what you'd like to do this wek 07:29 kados is write a message to koha-zebra 07:29 kados what I'd do 07:29 kados we can access pretty much any source and have session cacheing, etc. 07:28 kados whereas if we us the new perl/zoom that will be ready in October (maybe before) 07:28 paul right. 07:28 kados using it would limit us to local zebra sources 07:28 kados well ... even if it did work 07:28 kados right 07:28 kados strange ... now I see it 07:28 paul it seems no, it's zebra related 07:27 paul (Embeeding the zebra, page 6, 2.1.2.3 "The Perl API") 07:27 kados maybe the doc speaks of Net::Z3950? 07:27 kados that's strange 07:26 paul but in the doc indexdata wrote : "it is suppoerted & maintained by IndexData" 07:26 kados second, it's based (I believe) on the older C libraries rather than the new Yaz/Zoom 07:26 paul (that's why I get a 0% success on make test ...) 07:26 kados because the third party stopped maintaining it 07:25 kados it doesn't work with the latest version of Zebra 07:25 kados first of all, that perl package is old and was developed by a third party 07:25 paul (the doc "embeeding the zebra" speaking of it on page 6) 07:25 kados ahh ... many many things ;-) 07:24 paul the perl package that is in idzebra/perl ? 07:24 paul what is the diff between zoom/perl and 07:24 paul there's something that I don't understand well. 07:24 kados what's up>? 07:24 kados I do have a few minutes ;-) 07:22 paul (french inside) 07:22 paul http://actualite.free.fr/actu.pl?doc=insolite/3_2005-08-08T0530_FAP4291.xml 07:22 paul some US ppl really have strange sports : 07:20 paul (& zebra package nearby) 07:19 paul do you have a few minuts 07:19 paul 'morning joshua 07:19 paul ;-) 07:19 paul you mean is a past life ? 07:19 kados must have been a computer ;-) 04:38 hdl ok 04:38 paul ok tu me rappeles qd tu as réglé le pb ? 04:37 hdl No. Je n'ai pas de son. 04:36 paul c'était moi le pb. 04:36 paul hdl, rappelle moi 04:07 paul c'était son ordinateur ;-) 04:07 paul owen is really early today, or is it just it's computer ??? 04:05 hdl ok. 04:04 paul on peut s'appeler dans une petite 1/2H ? 04:04 paul ca marche plutôt bien pour l'instant. 04:04 paul (les Letters & actions) 04:04 paul j'ai commité tout ce que j'avais à commiter 04:04 hdl paul tu devais commiter des choses sur certains fichiers (Avant que je ne finisse lateorder.pl) C'est fait ? ou bien je m'occupe plutôt de la base IN2P3 à migrer aujourd'hui. 03:57 hdl ou en faire un parsing ? 03:57 paul t'inquiètes, je prend en charge. 03:56 hdl Si tu veux. Mais il faudrait alors analyser les infos. 03:55 paul (hdl : je vais au moins rajouter des nl2br pour rendre un peut plus clair...) 03:55 paul ;-) 03:54 Sylvain bon bein allez moi j'vais m'occuper des lecteurs de l'ENSMP 03:54 hdl Certes, mais c'es le marc::record qui est enregistré là. 03:54 paul (même la colonne "infos", passablement illisible ;-) ) 03:54 hdl paul : je viens de commité des modifs de Acquisition.pm importantes pour la gestion des branches indépendantes. 03:54 Sylvain en vacances jusqu'à fin aout et il revient en septembre mais pas pour trés lgtps si je me souviens bien 03:53 paul hdl : tes logs ont l'air de bien fonctionner. 03:53 paul matthieu est parti ou juste en vacances ? 03:53 Sylvain paul : laurent et victor sont la mais c'est tout. Et pour l'année prochaine, j'ai postulé à l'INTD mais je n'aurai la réponse qu'en octobre 03:52 paul (trouvé la formation que tu voulais ?) 03:52 paul tu en es ou de ton année prochaine ? 03:52 paul sylvain : il y a du monde chez doxulting ou tu es tout seul ? 03:51 paul moi z'aussi 03:51 hdl Ca m'a fait rire. 03:49 paul déjà vu 03:49 hdl try this :http://www.jpcheney.org/rubriques/00000061.htm ;) 03:40 paul enfin, au fond, ca ne me fait pas trop rire... 03:40 paul http://www.vnunet.fr/actualite/securite/piratage/20050805008 03:40 paul tiens, pour rigoler un bon coup : 03:38 Sylvain ouais lundi matin après le WE à déménager et le coucher à deux heures pour finir de monter les meubles ;) 03:38 paul l'effet lundi matin surement... 03:38 Sylvain ohlala j'y étais pas du tout :) 03:38 paul lol 03:38 paul comme si tu avais peur de quelque chose 03:37 paul ben oui, tu débarques ici et tu cries hiiiiiii !!! 03:37 Sylvain moi ? 03:35 paul tiens, toi aussi quelqu'un t'a fait peur ??? 03:33 Sylvain hi 03:26 paul (et puis on s'est levé tard 8H45 !!!, suite à biberon à 5H du matin...) 03:25 paul pas encore, je bosse sur des mails en retard. 03:25 hdl paul : tu as pu voir le viewlog.pl 03:04 hdl Ca doit être calme. 03:04 paul vivi 03:04 hdl Tu es donc seul avec Jérémie et ton épouse ? 03:03 hdl Oui. 03:03 paul tant pis, je verrais noane la prochaine fois. 03:03 paul j'ai eu tort, je n'en n'ai presque pas eu. 03:03 paul j'ai failli t'appeler, mais j'ai eu peur des bouchons... 03:03 paul je suis passé à 5km de chez toi samedi, en allant poser les enfants à Sète. 03:02 hdl :) 02:58 paul ou tu as eu peur ? 02:57 paul tu t'es fait mal ? 02:56 hdl hi 21:23 chris i think the problem was 2.2.2b was a rush release to fix a critical bug in 2.2.2 and the version string wasnt set properly 21:22 chris exactly :) 21:22 thd chris: Oh, an installer issue :) The template cannot read what is not there. 21:21 chris yeah that will be setting the version string the installer wasnt putting it in /etc/koha.conf 21:20 thd chris: now I remember the issue. The 'b' in 2.2.2b was not reported. 21:13 thd chris: nevermind, I was mistaken :) 21:11 chris it just reads whats in /etc/koha.conf 21:10 chris does for me 21:10 chris Koha version2.2.2 21:10 chris Server information 21:09 thd chris: currently, the intranet template does not report the X in 2.2X 21:09 chris done and committed 21:04 kados right ... 21:04 chris is all it needs to pass that thru to the template 21:04 owen Heh heh...out in the wild. So what they need is radio collars so we can track them! 21:04 kados we could even automate the task with OpenSearch using rss ;-) 21:04 chris my $kohaVersion = C4::Context->config("kohaversion"); 21:03 chris i was just doing my google around to find koha opacs out in the wild .. and thought about it 21:02 chris heh 21:02 kados kohasneakyverid for instance ;-) 21:01 kados make sure that the identifier is unique 21:01 kados we could do a real nice google query intext:kohaverid* 21:01 owen Sounds like a good idea to me. 21:00 kados great idea 21:00 chris what do ppl think about putting it back in the default templates at least 21:00 kados right ... good idea :-) 21:00 kados I take it that's long gone ;-) 21:00 chris it was purely so we could be nosey, and google around and find what versions ppl are running 21:00 kados right 21:00 chris steve tonnesen and I set it up so that there was a comment in the main opac page, that displayed the version number of the koha it was running 20:59 kados heh ... can't wait for this one ;-) 20:59 chris a while ago, way back version 1.2.2 i think 20:59 chris random thought for the day 20:40 chris most of the console based clients do 20:38 kados thd: bitchX too i think 20:38 kados thd: irssi does 20:38 thd kados: which IRC clients report disconnection immediately? 20:28 kados thd: I'm using prefix 20:23 thd kados: not CQL 20:23 thd kados: use CCL 20:22 thd kados: sorry, I can go 20 minutes before X-chat informs me that I have been disconnected. 20:03 kados thd: (though they don't support cql ... it segfaults) 20:03 kados thd: I'm finally getting some results from melvvyl 20:03 kados thd: I'm trying to figure out the best way to query to retrieve 050a, b 20:02 owen I see 20:02 kados owen: and 'Main collection' 20:01 kados owen: they had 'Main Collection' 20:01 kados owen: so there were a couple thousand items missing their itemtypes 20:01 kados owen: and my hash for normalizing them wasn't complete 20:01 kados owen: the old formats weren't normalized 20:01 owen I see the Amazon images are there, thanks. 20:00 owen What exactly was the itemtype problem? 20:00 kados owen: I fixed the itemtypes prob and I'm loading in a new db right now 20:00 thd kados: yes 20:00 chris heya owen 20:00 kados hope you don't hate what I've done with the place ;-) 19:58 kados hey owen 19:55 kados thd: you around? 17:02 kados thanks even ;-) 17:02 kados cool ... tahnks 17:00 chris [WWW] Lele wrote a Python tool able to keep in sync various kinds of repository: it works for various revision control systems, so I'm actually using it to collect under darcs various pieces of software that compose a [WWW] Plone instance, digesting patches coming from three different VC, CVS, Subversion, Darcs and (still partially) Monotone, Codeville, Bazaar-NG and Mercurial, preserving history. 16:59 chris its in debian unstable .. kinda looks like what you were after 16:59 chris http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor 16:56 kados chris: chris ping ;-) 16:52 kados chris: what's up? 16:52 kados chris: yep 16:47 chris kados you about? 13:39 thd kdaos: I think that is right, the problem does not appear in the MARC view where all columns are filled (I had been confused about that). The problem is quite definite in the detail view, even if it requires close attention to spot. 13:21 thd kados: keep working, but I have an idea about the display strangeness. I suspect that it might go away if you populate empty columns. 13:01 thd owen: I never traced that bug because my set regexes seemed to complex to find the bug easily and there is no shortage of problems to solve in the world :) 12:58 thd owen: This regex bug appears only when parsing a 100s of lines, including the same original 20 or 30 lines, in a file when the match always fails for the problem lines. 12:56 thd owen: This regex bug will not appear when parsing a 20 or 30 line file when the match for the problem lines always works. 12:54 thd owen: A possibly similar issue is a bug I have observed a subtle bug in all regular expression engines that I have used. 12:52 thd owen: Well maybe if there is a bug in my Gecko. This problem is not easy to spot though. 12:50 owen If kados doesn't see the problem, and I don't see the problem (which I don't), I'd guess it's a browser issue. 12:50 thd owen: I would imagine that a particular point in a combined set of loops causes this. It does not seem to cycle regularly so it would have to be a combination of loops if a loop point is the problem. 12:47 thd owen: yes this cannot be very important, unless it is causing other problems that have not been noticed because a row of data might be missing in a similar way to a column missing for a particular row. 12:45 kados yep 12:43 owen Sounds like too rare a case to worry about today 12:35 thd owen: yes like that one, but you need many more to find a problem. 12:33 thd owen: I noticerd this in one particular record that Kados has where each issue of a periodical has a separate item for over 300. 12:32 owen Like this page? http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=161684 12:31 thd owen: the table representing holdings information in the opac detail or MARC views. 12:30 owen What do you mean by holdings table? 12:30 thd owen: In a very large holdings table, font size has slight changes in some rows and a column will disappear on some rows. 12:23 owen thd, what problem are you talking about? 12:23 kados :-) 12:20 thd kados: Go back to your proposal writing :) 12:20 thd kados: This could not be a very important problem unless it would cause other strangeness. I can see this in both Firefox and Mozilla. 12:18 kados note that I'm very busy today ;-) 12:18 kados no idea ... looks fine in all my browsers 12:09 thd kados: Netscape 4.77 cannot read the stylesheet so it looks terrible but without any row or column strangeness :) 12:02 thd kados: I have difficulty presuming that it is a Firefox problem. I will test Netscape 4.