Time Nick Message
12:02 thd kados: I have difficulty presuming that it is a Firefox problem. I will test Netscape 4.
12:09 thd kados: Netscape 4.77 cannot read the stylesheet so it looks terrible but without any row or column strangeness :)
12:18 kados no idea ... looks fine in all my browsers
12:18 kados note that I'm very busy today ;-)
12:20 thd kados: This could not be a very important problem unless it would cause other strangeness. I can see this in both Firefox and Mozilla.
12:20 thd kados: Go back to your proposal writing :)
12:23 kados :-)
12:23 owen thd, what problem are you talking about?
12:30 thd owen: In a very large holdings table, font size has slight changes in some rows and a column will disappear on some rows.
12:30 owen What do you mean by holdings table?
12:31 thd owen: the table representing holdings information in the opac detail or MARC views.
12:32 owen Like this page? http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=161684
12:33 thd owen: I noticerd this in one particular record that Kados has where each issue of a periodical has a separate item for over 300.
12:35 thd owen: yes like that one, but you need many more to find a problem.
12:43 owen Sounds like too rare a case to worry about today
12:45 kados yep
12:47 thd owen: yes this cannot be very important, unless it is causing other problems that have not been noticed because a row of data might be missing in a similar way to a column missing for a particular row.
12:50 thd owen: I would imagine that a particular point in a combined set of loops causes this. It does not seem to cycle regularly so it would have to be a combination of loops if a loop point is the problem.
12:50 owen If kados doesn't see the problem, and I don't see the problem (which I don't), I'd guess it's a browser issue.
12:52 thd owen: Well maybe if there is a bug in my Gecko. This problem is not easy to spot though.
12:54 thd owen: A possibly similar issue is a bug I have observed a subtle bug in all regular expression engines that I have used.
12:56 thd owen: This regex bug will not appear when parsing a 20 or 30 line file when the match for the problem lines always works.
12:58 thd owen: This regex bug appears only when parsing a 100s of lines, including the same original 20 or 30 lines, in a file when the match always fails for the problem lines.
13:01 thd owen: I never traced that bug because my set regexes seemed to complex to find the bug easily and there is no shortage of problems to solve in the world :)
13:21 thd kados: keep working, but I have an idea about the display strangeness. I suspect that it might go away if you populate empty columns.
13:39 thd kdaos: I think that is right, the problem does not appear in the MARC view where all columns are filled (I had been confused about that). The problem is quite definite in the detail view, even if it requires close attention to spot.
16:47 chris kados you about?
16:52 kados chris: yep
16:52 kados chris: what's up?
16:56 kados chris: chris ping ;-)
16:59 chris http://www.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/Tailor
16:59 chris its in debian unstable .. kinda looks like what you were after
17:00 chris [WWW] Lele wrote a Python tool able to keep in sync various kinds of repository: it works for various revision control systems, so I'm actually using it to collect under darcs various pieces of software that compose a [WWW] Plone instance, digesting patches coming from three different VC, CVS, Subversion, Darcs and (still partially) Monotone, Codeville, Bazaar-NG and Mercurial, preserving history.
17:02 kados cool ... tahnks
17:02 kados thanks even ;-)
19:55 kados thd: you around?
19:58 kados hey owen
20:00 kados hope you don't hate what I've done with the place ;-)
20:00 chris heya owen
20:00 thd kados: yes
20:00 kados owen: I fixed the itemtypes prob and I'm loading in a new db right now
20:00 owen What exactly was the itemtype problem?
20:01 owen I see the Amazon images are there, thanks.
20:01 kados owen: the old formats weren't normalized
20:01 kados owen: and my hash for normalizing them wasn't complete
20:01 kados owen: so there were a couple thousand items missing their itemtypes
20:01 kados owen: they had 'Main Collection'
20:02 kados owen: and 'Main collection'
20:02 owen I see
20:03 kados thd: I'm trying to figure out the best way to query to retrieve 050a, b
20:03 kados thd: I'm finally getting some results from melvvyl
20:03 kados thd: (though they don't support cql ... it segfaults)
20:22 thd kados: sorry, I can go 20 minutes before X-chat informs me that I have been disconnected.
20:23 thd kados: use CCL
20:23 thd kados: not CQL
20:28 kados thd: I'm using prefix
20:38 thd kados: which IRC clients report disconnection immediately?
20:38 kados thd: irssi does
20:38 kados thd: bitchX too i think
20:40 chris most of the console based clients do
20:59 chris random thought for the day
20:59 chris a while ago, way back version 1.2.2 i think
20:59 kados heh ... can't wait for this one ;-)
21:00 chris steve tonnesen and I set it up so that there was a comment in the main opac page, that displayed the version number of the koha it was running
21:00 kados right
21:00 chris it was purely so we could be nosey, and google around and find what versions ppl are running
21:00 kados I take it that's long gone ;-)
21:00 kados right ... good idea :-)
21:00 chris what do ppl think about putting it back in the default templates at least
21:00 kados great idea
21:01 owen Sounds like a good idea to me.
21:01 kados we could do a real nice google query intext:kohaverid*
21:01 kados make sure that the identifier is unique
21:02 kados kohasneakyverid for instance ;-)
21:02 chris heh
21:03 chris i was just doing my google around to find koha opacs out in the wild .. and thought about it
21:04 chris my $kohaVersion = C4::Context->config("kohaversion");
21:04 kados we could even automate the task with OpenSearch using rss ;-)
21:04 owen Heh heh...out in the wild. So what they need is radio collars so we can track them!
21:04 chris is all it needs to pass that thru to the template
21:04 kados right ...
21:09 chris done and committed
21:09 thd chris: currently, the intranet template does not report the X in 2.2X
21:10 chris Server information
21:10 chris Koha version2.2.2
21:10 chris does for me
21:11 chris it just reads whats in /etc/koha.conf
21:13 thd chris: nevermind, I was mistaken :)
21:20 thd chris: now I remember the issue. The 'b' in 2.2.2b was not reported.
21:21 chris yeah that will be setting the version string the installer wasnt putting it in /etc/koha.conf
21:22 thd chris: Oh, an installer issue :) The template cannot read what is not there.
21:22 chris exactly :)
21:23 chris i think the problem was 2.2.2b was a rush release to fix a critical bug in 2.2.2 and the version string wasnt set properly
02:56 hdl hi
02:57 paul tu t'es fait mal ?
02:58 paul ou tu as eu peur ?
03:02 hdl :)
03:03 paul je suis passé à 5km de chez toi samedi, en allant poser les enfants à Sète.
03:03 paul j'ai failli t'appeler, mais j'ai eu peur des bouchons...
03:03 paul j'ai eu tort, je n'en n'ai presque pas eu.
03:03 paul tant pis, je verrais noane la prochaine fois.
03:03 hdl Oui.
03:04 hdl Tu es donc seul avec Jérémie et ton épouse ?
03:04 paul vivi
03:04 hdl Ca doit être calme.
03:25 hdl paul : tu as pu voir le viewlog.pl
03:25 paul pas encore, je bosse sur des mails en retard.
03:26 paul (et puis on s'est levé tard 8H45 !!!, suite à biberon à 5H du matin...)
03:33 Sylvain hi
03:35 paul tiens, toi aussi quelqu'un t'a fait peur ???
03:37 Sylvain moi ?
03:37 paul ben oui, tu débarques ici et tu cries hiiiiiii !!!
03:38 paul comme si tu avais peur de quelque chose
03:38 paul lol
03:38 Sylvain ohlala j'y étais pas du tout :)
03:38 paul l'effet lundi matin surement...
03:38 Sylvain ouais lundi matin après le WE à déménager et le coucher à deux heures pour finir de monter les meubles ;)
03:40 paul tiens, pour rigoler un bon coup :
03:40 paul http://www.vnunet.fr/actualite/securite/piratage/20050805008
03:40 paul enfin, au fond, ca ne me fait pas trop rire...
03:49 hdl try this :http://www.jpcheney.org/rubriques/00000061.htm ;)
03:49 paul déjà vu
03:51 hdl Ca m'a fait rire.
03:51 paul moi z'aussi
03:52 paul sylvain : il y a du monde chez doxulting ou tu es tout seul ?
03:52 paul tu en es ou de ton année prochaine ?
03:52 paul (trouvé la formation que tu voulais ?)
03:53 Sylvain paul : laurent et victor sont la mais c'est tout. Et pour l'année prochaine, j'ai postulé à l'INTD mais je n'aurai la réponse qu'en octobre
03:53 paul matthieu est parti ou juste en vacances ?
03:53 paul hdl : tes logs ont l'air de bien fonctionner.
03:54 Sylvain en vacances jusqu'à fin aout et il revient en septembre mais pas pour trés lgtps si je me souviens bien
03:54 hdl paul : je viens de commité des modifs de Acquisition.pm importantes pour la gestion des branches indépendantes.
03:54 paul (même la colonne "infos", passablement illisible ;-) )
03:54 hdl Certes, mais c'es le marc::record qui est enregistré là.
03:54 Sylvain bon bein allez moi j'vais m'occuper des lecteurs de l'ENSMP
03:55 paul ;-)
03:55 paul (hdl : je vais au moins rajouter des nl2br pour rendre un peut plus clair...)
03:56 hdl Si tu veux. Mais il faudrait alors analyser les infos.
03:57 paul t'inquiètes, je prend en charge.
03:57 hdl ou en faire un parsing ?
04:04 hdl paul tu devais commiter des choses sur certains fichiers (Avant que je ne finisse lateorder.pl) C'est fait ? ou bien je m'occupe plutôt de la base IN2P3 à migrer aujourd'hui.
04:04 paul j'ai commité tout ce que j'avais à commiter
04:04 paul (les Letters & actions)
04:04 paul ca marche plutôt bien pour l'instant.
04:04 paul on peut s'appeler dans une petite 1/2H ?
04:05 hdl ok.
04:07 paul owen is really early today, or is it just it's computer ???
04:07 paul c'était son ordinateur ;-)
04:36 paul hdl, rappelle moi
04:36 paul c'était moi le pb.
04:37 hdl No. Je n'ai pas de son.
04:38 paul ok tu me rappeles qd tu as réglé le pb ?
04:38 hdl ok
07:19 kados must have been a computer ;-)
07:19 paul you mean is a past life ?
07:19 paul ;-)
07:19 paul 'morning joshua
07:19 paul do you have a few minuts
07:20 paul (& zebra package nearby)
07:22 paul some US ppl really have strange sports :
07:22 paul http://actualite.free.fr/actu.pl?doc=insolite/3_2005-08-08T0530_FAP4291.xml
07:22 paul (french inside)
07:24 kados I do have a few minutes ;-)
07:24 kados what's up>?
07:24 paul there's something that I don't understand well.
07:24 paul what is the diff between zoom/perl and
07:24 paul the perl package that is in idzebra/perl ?
07:25 kados ahh ... many many things ;-)
07:25 paul (the doc "embeeding the zebra" speaking of it on page 6)
07:25 kados first of all, that perl package is old and was developed by a third party
07:25 kados it doesn't work with the latest version of Zebra
07:26 kados because the third party stopped maintaining it
07:26 paul (that's why I get a 0% success on make test ...)
07:26 kados second, it's based (I believe) on the older C libraries rather than the new Yaz/Zoom
07:26 paul but in the doc indexdata wrote : "it is suppoerted & maintained by IndexData"
07:27 kados that's strange
07:27 kados maybe the doc speaks of Net::Z3950?
07:27 paul (Embeeding the zebra, page 6, 2.1.2.3 "The Perl API")
07:28 paul it seems no, it's zebra related
07:28 kados strange ... now I see it
07:28 kados right
07:28 kados well ... even if it did work
07:28 kados using it would limit us to local zebra sources
07:28 paul right.
07:28 kados whereas if we us the new perl/zoom that will be ready in October (maybe before)
07:29 kados we can access pretty much any source and have session cacheing, etc.
07:29 kados what I'd do
07:29 kados is write a message to koha-zebra
07:29 kados describing what you'd like to do this wek
07:29 kados week even
07:29 kados ;-)
07:29 kados Mike Taylor will write you back lickety split ;-)
07:30 paul i was investigating "embeeding the zebra" before writing this mail in fact. Just to try to understand. I understand quite well I think/hope, now.
07:30 kados because he and I have been discussing the Perl/Zoom quite a bit this past week (as well as other things related to OpenSearch, etc.)
07:30 kados cool
07:30 kados there's also a small email from Sebastion on koha-zebra
07:30 kados that may clear up some of it as well
07:31 kados Perl/Zoom is _very_ exciting
08:01 owen g'mornin'
08:01 paul hi owen.
08:01 kados morning owen
11:42 owen kados (if you're there) do you know how authorities work?
11:49 owen The authorities help file reads, "authority help"
11:49 owen It'll take some time to digest.