Time Nick Message 10:57 kados hey owen 10:57 owen Hi 11:05 owen We really need a system preference to specify whether we want MARCdetail or detail by default. 11:05 kados I thought there was one 11:05 owen I don't think so. I think there's only a preference for what view to use by default in the OPAC 11:06 kados ahh ... I thought that was what you were refering to 11:06 kados you mean for the intranet too? 11:06 owen Yeah. 11:07 owen I have it hard-wired in NPL's setup to go to detail.pl, because I don't think our staff wants to see the MARC view by default (I sure don't) 11:07 kados NBBC won't want the MARC view to be default ... that I'm sure of 11:08 owen I'll change it in their template 11:10 kados I've been thiking about Paul's new menus 11:10 kados maybe we should use a free version of that functionality like Overlib 11:10 kados http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/ 11:11 kados I've used it in a couple of places in LibLime's demos 11:11 kados it's a very nice library 11:11 kados and a sinch to use 11:12 owen Does it do drop-down menus? All I'm seeing are the pop-up windows 11:17 kados the 'sticky' popups are kinda like drop-down menuds 11:17 kados menus even 11:17 kados there used to be an example on the website 11:19 kados http://www.macridesweb.com/oltest/STICKY.html 11:23 kados I've got a alistapart.com site bookmarked as well: 11:23 owen I think these menus behave very nicely. I only wish they'd 'retract' if you clicked another part of the page. You have to click the menu item again to retract it. 11:23 kados http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns/ 11:23 owen http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/simplemenus.htm 11:24 kados ooh ... those are nice 11:39 kados so the ISBD link is supposed to be a alternate view? 11:39 kados or is it like a summary of the book? 11:39 kados I'm trying to figure out whether it's in the MARC records 11:39 owen ISBD is an alternate view that can be configured via system preference 11:39 kados gotcha 11:40 owen It's very complex to set up, from my point of view 11:45 kados cool ... it works 11:45 kados so I assume this would be useful if you were citing something in a paper or something 11:45 kados it would be really cool if you could export to endnotes format or something ;-) 11:46 owen You know librarians, they always want everything to be /just so/ ;) 11:46 thd owen: ISBD view has the same problem as other Koha templates that attempts to use a standard configuration where to place subfields instead of reading what subfields are present in what sequence form the record and then merely supplying standard punctuation to join subfields. 11:46 thd s/form/from/ 11:46 kados thd: actually, setting it up in that way should be pretty simple 11:47 kados as far as I can tell you can put in as many fields as you want separated by whatever punctuation you want and Koha will only display the ones that exist 11:48 thd kados: you have to specify an order for subfields that may be repeated or in a different sequence from your chosen configuration in the record itself 11:51 thd kados: a configuration for Koha ISBD specifies subfield order as part of the process of specifying linking punctuation. Only the punctuation and the need to display particular subfields at all should be specified in the configuration. 11:52 thd kados: The sequence and repetition of subfields should be read from the record. 11:54 thd kados: how does know the original order of repeated fields? Where is that stored? I know where the original order of subfields is stored but not fields. 11:55 kados I've no idea 11:55 kados it's something we should look at for 3.0 11:56 thd kados: Koha does seem to display field order correctly, unlike subfield order while subfiled order is clearly stored in the DB but not used in the templates. 11:59 thd kados have you scrolled down your large record at 800 x 600 to see the changing font sizes and columns disappearing then returning? 11:59 kados yep ... didn't happen to me