Time  Nick      Message
10:14 kados     :-(
10:14 kados     my home network has been down for about 18 hours
10:14 kados     Athens County has major power probs today
10:13 kados     hi all
08:00 osmoze    koha.homelinux.org
08:00 paul      redonne l'adresse
08:00 osmoze    paul, peux tu reessayer ?
07:45 osmoze    ma redirection dns ne marche plus, je regarde et reviens :)
07:31 osmoze    hum..je regarde
07:30 paul      (pas de réponse du serveur)
07:30 paul      osmoze : l'adresse ne fonctionne pas
07:29 paul_away oups, clic un peu rapide...
07:21 paul      ??? non, aucune
07:21 osmoze    (le bouton valider)
07:21 osmoze    de plus, je pense avoir un petit probleme au niveau de l intranet, quand je veux changer de site, le clic de la souris ne fonctionne pas, cela fonctionne qu avec la touche entré positionné dessus, je n ai rien vu de telle dans la mailing, une idée ?
07:08 osmoze    en fait, si je l enleve, personne n y voit que du feu
07:08 paul      mais vous n'avez peut être pas besoin de ca ;-)
07:08 paul      en UNIMARC strict, ce devrait être des listes d'autorité.
07:07 paul      MAIS : tu n'es pas obligé de les relier à un thésaurus. Ca peut être des champs à saisir librement.
07:07 paul      s'il n'y a pas les auteurs en 200, alors, il faut laisser les champs 700, 701 et 702
07:07 osmoze    erf, en fait je comprend pas le couac de ces champs
07:07 paul      joker pour la BDP.
07:06 osmoze    et pour les nouvelles notices que j integrerai de la bdp, ca fera comment ?
07:06 osmoze    paul, une question venant de sandrine, tu me dis de virer le thesaurus 700 701 702, sa question : c est remplacé par quoi ? car si on recherche par auteur ca marche plus
05:13 hdl       merci. Je vais étudier ce qui ne va pas.
05:12 paul      hdl : commit avec modifs, mais ca ne marche toujours pas bien. Mais c'est meux. je continue à chercher
04:30 osmoze    merci :)
04:29 paul      aucune modif dans la base, donc aucune modif dans les API, donc ca marchera pareil ;-)
04:29 paul      ah, alors c'est clair : RAS
04:28 osmoze    hum....ma question (mal formulée) parle du script que tu nous avez developper pour ajouter et enlever les notices bdp et c etait sur la 2.2.3 ^^
04:22 paul      probablement, mais c'est trop tot pour le dire définitivement. En tous cas, nous allons tout faire pour conserver l'API actuelle de la gestion des notices.
04:21 osmoze    une question paul, le script d import et export avec la bdp fonctionnera toujours avec la 2.3 ?
03:50 hdl       en fait, on fréquente léa tous les deux ;)
03:50 paul      c'était un message codé ?
03:50 osmoze    bon
03:50 osmoze    tiens, un ls et plus rien couleur normale
03:50 osmoze    vi :)
03:49 hdl       un plaisir de se trouver sur des listes amies ;)
03:49 hdl       bonjour osmoze.
03:49 osmoze    oki :) et bonjour hdl ^^
03:48 hdl       lorsque tu relances l'installer, les couleurs se réinitialisent dtf
03:48 osmoze    ^^
03:48 osmoze    lol
03:48 paul      (pas le bouton, hein, la commande shell)
03:47 paul      reset est ton ami je pense
03:47 osmoze    tiens, quand il y a une erreur dans l installeur, et que l on retombe sur le shell, c est tout rouge  ^^
03:32 paul      you're welcome
03:30 osmoze    ok, c est parti, merci :)
03:30 paul      http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=16466&package_id=12718
03:30 paul      voilà
03:30 paul      je suis là
03:30 osmoze    je risque d etre un peu embetant ces prochains temps ^^
03:29 paul      super pour ce qui est de la migration ;-)
03:29 osmoze    ok, merci :)
03:29 osmoze    je migre cette semaine
03:29 paul      Je te réactive la 2.0.2 sur sourceforge
03:29 osmoze    bin c est pour l upgrade
03:28 paul      pourquoi, tu veux revenir en 2.0 ?
03:28 osmoze    ni sourceforge ni katipo
03:28 paul      fichtre, c'est exact.
03:28 osmoze    pas trouvé :(
03:28 paul      il doit toujours y avoir un 2.0.2 sur sourceforge non ?
03:28 osmoze    paul, je recherche desesperement une 2.0, tu aurais cela ?
03:25 paul      'lut
03:25 osmoze    bonjour
02:54 paul      anyway, it has been made, that's what is important ;-)
02:53 paul      so, in fact, it had to be done asap.
02:53 paul      it was not urgent, but better to do it before playing with 3.0 database.
02:53 hdl       Not forgotten. I thought it was Long term work.
02:51 paul      (as you seem to have forgotten updatedatabase cleaning that I suggested few weeks ago, i made it myself ;-) )
02:51 paul      ;-)
02:51 hdl       It was aborted since you comitted a version of updatedatabase before mine.
02:46 hdl       paul : Sorry. My latest commit did not work.
02:43 paul      let gnomemeeting ready, i call you when i have suggestions.
02:43 paul      (just sending doc to in2p3 before)
02:43 paul      ok, i update my cvs & look immediatly.
02:43 paul      why did sf forget to send the mails is a good question...
02:42 paul      no mail on koha-cvs, I thought you didn't commit.
02:42 hdl       enfantement à prendre à un sens plus large....
02:41 hdl       Did you have time to look at my latest commited code and see why it wouldn't work ?
02:41 hdl       Nous sommes donc unis dans les tribulations de l'enfantement... ;)
02:41 paul      nous, nous avons eu 4H et 6H30 ;-)
02:40 hdl       La dernière fois, cétait à 7h... heure du réveil :)
02:40 hdl       J'ai juste eu besoin d'être là et de la cajoler un peu. Et elle s'est calmée, la première fois.
02:39 paul      ah, là il va falloir creuser, effectivement.
02:39 hdl       Elle aurait des diarrhées nocturnes que cela ne m'étonnerait pas.
02:39 hdl       Oui. Mais j'ai l'impression que ce n'est pas seulement des angoisses mais aussi fonction de ce qu'elle a mangé et de sa digestion.
02:38 paul      c'est un léger progrès non ?
02:38 hdl       Mais elle ne sera pas là de la journée.
02:38 hdl       révéillé 3 fois.
02:38 paul      Noane vous a laissé un peu en paix ?
02:38 paul      salut henri damien. Bien dormi ?
02:37 hdl       hi everybody.
02:23 paul      (mmm... bad is not the right word in english. But you understand what I mean)
02:23 Genji     hmm... right. saw The Island, today. Really really enjoyed it.
02:23 paul      (+ really poorly translated in french)
02:22 paul      Ocean 11 was fun, imho, and Ocean 12 is a non sense
02:22 paul      Just 1 minor bad thing : I saw Ocean 12 yesterday, it's really a bad movie.
02:22 paul      fine, thanks. Nice weather, not too hot for instance ;-)
02:21 Genji     hiya paul. how goes/
02:21 paul      hello rach/Genji
02:18 Genji     hiya rach
21:49 rach      erg wrong channel
21:45 rach      I'm getting biowhat
21:44 rach      hmm - http://koha.eeo.katipo.co.nz/
21:42 rach      and its the edit button on the more detail page for group that is broken in the templates
21:41 rach      that shows how it's supposed to work (well where)
21:41 rach      thd - http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album26
21:40 rach      um chris gave you the URL to hack the other day
20:42 thd       chirs, rach: You had posted that the current default and NPL templates were broken for that.
20:39 thd       chris, rach: Where would I find the template set that provides access to the page for assigning items to biblioitems?
20:24 thd       Genji: I could not find the link previously, after I confused it with something I had read about extending an Innovative Interfaces ILS.
20:18 thd       Genji: The link above is to a blog posting about a library near you.  Much nearer you than me, certainly.  North Shore Libraries in New Zealand. Mike Copley, Assistant Librarian and Web Developer has a graphical map linked to OPAC results showing book location as a red mark.  Perhaps you would be interested to enquire with him about how he implemented that.
20:13 thd       Genji: http://www.librarystuff.net/2005/04/beyond-typical-library-opac.html
20:11 thd       Genji: hello
20:10 thd       chris: Sebastian form Index Data recommended the Yaz/Zoom API.
20:09 Genji     hiya all
20:07 dan       thanks
20:06 chris     cyas later
20:06 chris     ok, i gotta get back to my paid job
20:06 chris     bulkmarcimport.pl you need to run from the commandline
20:05 chris      /cgi-bin/koha/import/breeding.pl  will import into the reservior
20:05 chris     bulkmarcimport.pl will load straight into your catalog
20:05 chris     dan: sorry i put you slightly wrong
20:05 thd       there was a reply for Index Data on koha-zebra to a message that I had forwarded where I had added a note about Event module problems.
20:03 chris     no one has really looked into it
20:03 thd       chris: what do you know about better client integration?
20:02 chris     koha has a z3950 server as well as the client, but neither of them are what you'd call rocksolid
20:02 chris     > we already know how to integrate a much better z3950 server
20:02 chris     <dan> like w/ the z3950 server in the package
20:01 chris     s
20:01 chris     i was talking about 2 different thing
20:01 chris     i know
20:01 thd       the daemon acts as a client
20:00 chris     zebra, from indexdata
20:00 chris     i meant server
20:00 thd       chris: which is the better z39.50 server [did you mean client] that you already know how to integrate?
20:00 dan       oh, okay, i'll try that out
19:59 chris     and then when you go to add a new book, it searches the reservior and if it matches a title, you can prefill the form with the data
19:58 chris     you can use the bulkmarcimport.pl script to load a big bunch of marc records into the reservior
19:58 chris     heres a trick
19:58 dan       it takes a long time to enter all these books :)
19:58 chris     right
19:57 dan       or something like that
19:57 dan       one feature that I can already tell might be usefull would be something where you coul list a bunch if isbn's someplace and resolve all of them at one time
19:57 dan       sweet, i'll definately look forward to it
19:56 chris     but 2.4/3.0 (we havent decided on the number yet, i think it will be 3.0 lots of changes) will be early 2006
19:56 dan       cool
19:56 chris     theres going to be a 2.2.4 bugfix release out in the nearish future
19:56 thd       :-)
19:55 dan       oh, i meant to ask, when's the next major release looking like it might come out?
19:54 dan       i'm going to get back at this now, thanks a lot
19:54 dan       okay, that sounds good
19:54 chris     when you are up and running drop us a note, and we'll add you to the koha users map :)
19:54 dan       once we get a barcode scanner anyway :)
19:54 chris     excellent
19:53 dan       I'm pretty excited about this software, I think it's going to work well for us
19:53 dan       cool
19:53 chris     we already know how to integrate a much better z3950 server
19:52 dan       especially since the place i'm at has a lot of stuff most places dont
19:52 chris     that will be much better in the next major version too
19:52 chris     yeah
19:52 dan       like w/ the z3950 server in the package
19:52 dan       especially how it's distributed so people can share their database
19:52 chris     in practice its a bit flakey
19:52 chris     yeah
19:51 dan       i like how the z3950 thing works in theory...
19:51 chris     otherwise, we will refactor and try make it a bit tighter
19:51 dan       oh, that'd be cool
19:51 dan       I'm trying to get this thing to the point where volunteers at this community center can use it effectively... so it has to run smoothly :)
19:51 chris     and get koha to be able to use it
19:51 chris     one of which is to take an existing free software z3950 client
19:50 chris     for the next major version of koha, we have a couple of options
19:50 dan       well, thanks for the help, it makes a lot more sense now
19:50 dan       cool
19:50 dan       okay
19:50 chris     i dont think so, so its more likely 3 servers left to query
19:49 dan       you're able to do more than one search at a time?
19:49 chris     i cant remember which :)
19:49 dan       okay... i got it
19:49 chris     i think thats 3 servers left to query ... or 3 searches left to go
19:48 dan       okay... so that's what the "still 3 requests to go" thing means
19:48 chris     and will keep trying servers until it does (or runs out of servers to try)
19:47 chris     what it tries to do is get a certain number of results
19:47 chris     that makes sense
19:47 dan       i've noticed that it happens more often when i try entering books that most servers don't have any info on
19:47 dan       okay... so i'll try removing some servers
19:46 chris     that would be my guess
19:46 dan       so, basically, some of the servers i have listed are not returning in a timely manner and the processes are getting hung?
19:46 chris     but it needs some work to make it a bit more solid
19:46 chris     since they can take a long time to return, it gets around timeout problems
19:45 chris     its a good idea in theory, having a daemon that does the z3950 requests
19:44 chris     in theory, it should fork a request for each server, these should then die when the results are returned
19:43 chris     its not a particularly robust piece of software (the z3950 part of koha)
19:43 chris     it might not be you
19:43 chris     hi dan
19:40 dan       any idea what i'm doing wrong?
19:39 dan       also the window allways says "still 3 requests to go" or else "still ?? requests to go"
19:39 dan       I think maybe I'm not using it right?
19:39 dan       hi everyone. I installed koha today, and have been adding books using z3950, but after a while it lags and stops working. I find w/ ps that there are a bunch of forked (i think) processz3950que processes and if i restart the daemon it works again
19:27 thd       Genji: are you there?
15:40 dan       kudos on the software y'all.
15:39 dan       thanks for the help :-)
15:39 dan       actually i think i just fixed it... i had the loc server set up to unimarc
15:38 thd       dan: have you configured some reliable z39.50 server targets with the correct information?
15:36 dan       yeah
15:36 thd       dan: did you launch the z39.50 daemon?
15:35 dan       debian sarge linux
15:35 thd       dan: what operating system did you install koha on?
15:25 dan       does anyone know what that might be?
15:24 dan       hi there everyone, I just installed koha but for some reason z39.50 doesnt work, and I get an error about mysql syntax and Breeding.pm
12:48 thd       kados: ping
12:36 thd       owen: ooh, maybe its importance had seemed especially minor even to him and he initiated the query.  I have missed him on IRC when I was asking.
12:33 owen      not offhand
12:32 thd       owen: Do you remeber the questions kados had asked you about that?
12:32 owen      It's not something I've been working on
12:31 thd       owen: Had you found how to assign a damaged item to itemtype 'damaged too fragile to circulate' or something similar that you and kados seemed to be concerned with last week?