Time Nick Message 03:03 thd Magnificent. If I had bandwidth, I would backup to the other side of the continent. I am lucky if I transport some unreliable media to another part of the city. 03:00 si I've even got one in San Francisco 02:59 si so we just put backup disk in other buildings, both in wellington, and elsewhere 02:59 si I have a *lot* of bandwidth to play with 02:59 si in my day job I run a GigE metro ethernet around wellington 02:58 chris back up to a another machine about 630km north of wellington 02:51 thd si: what do you do for fire or flood if you have no removable media? 02:50 si we use disks for source and target - I've certainly given up on any removeable media as a backup 02:49 thd my backup media fails while my source media keeps running for the past 9 years :-) 02:45 si scheduled building power outages actually create more outages than unscheduled power co ones 02:45 thd si: I have been so long without disc failure that some of my backup practises have become very lax 02:44 si it's a lot more reliable than a lot of other parts of the world 02:44 si when a bolt of lightening hits a substation or similar 02:44 si and one 15-30 minute one every 2-3 years 02:44 si the power grid is ok, though - we'd get maybe three 1-2 minute outages per year 02:43 si I've just been waiting for the weekend to put it out of it's misery 02:43 si but the disk has been sick in the koha.org server for a few days now 02:43 si that's been rectified 02:42 si we had a UPS failure the other night, which took it down for a couple of hours 02:42 si it's pretty good 02:42 thd si: I had wondered if the power grid is reliable where you are. 02:40 thd I will try to survive with only a cache until later :-) 02:39 si hopefully :-) 02:39 si it'll be back up in a couple of hours 02:39 si yes, it's a bit tedious 02:39 thd si: that sounds very bad 02:38 si disk failure 02:37 thd si: my notice is not a complaint only a query about the proximate and general cause 02:33 thd si: koha.org and katipo.nz are down again 02:03 si it is saturday night here... 01:56 indradg thd, looks like everyone is away atm ;) 01:45 thd si: ping 01:30 thd chris: ping 01:21 thd chris, rach: ping 13:57 owen Sorry--I just got called to a meeting. Back soon. 13:56 thd owen: a similar case to assign a damaged item to itemtype 'damaged hold in reserve--too fragile to circulate'. 13:53 thd owen: I thought kados was asking you about how to do this yesterday. 13:52 thd owen: the circ rules for 'damaged send for rebinding' would be set to does not circulate. 13:51 thd owen: If I have itemtype 'damaged send for rebinding' then I want to assign an item to that item type when a previously good item is returned with the pages detatchd from the cover. 13:49 owen I'm not sure I understand what you mean 13:49 thd owen: Is there a way in the NPL template to assign an item to a an itemtype? 13:46 thd thd: I tend to associate '?' as 'help' with GUI interfaces that I have not used much. 13:43 thd Very compact but not what I would have expected. I guess when one wants help one hopes that the 'don't panic button' is printed in large friendly letters. Unobtrusive is better in all other circumstances :-) 13:41 owen Yeah, it kinda blends with the login info. But it was actually trying to make it unobtrusive. 13:40 thd The '?' did not signify with me. I just ignored it. 13:39 thd yes 13:36 owen Is it there? 13:33 owen You should see a question mark in the upper-right corner of the screen 13:32 thd owen: yes 13:32 owen thd: in the intranet? 13:32 owen (in the short term) 13:32 owen The CSS templates should simply be renamed 13:32 owen Yeah, I agree 13:31 tim hmm... It probably shouldn't default to default if it's not there. 13:31 thd owen: Are the NPL templates are missing the help link? 13:30 owen Maybe that's why they weren't in the download? 13:30 owen I've talked to Paul about removing them from CVS 13:30 owen About the default thing: the default OPAC templates are out of date 13:29 tim for editing 13:29 tim I copied the NPL templates to a WLPL folder. 13:28 tim owen: I'm back 13:19 thd above s/default NPLtemplates/default and NPL templates/ 13:14 thd kados: I did not identify the new template before chris and rach left. paul also told me that some related functionality is disabled when MARC is on. 13:14 owen tim, you still there? 13:12 thd kados: Did you find a solution for reserving a damaged item? chris and rach said that there was a problem with the default NPLtemplates for accessing some functionality recently. Katipo has a new template for that. 13:10 thd tim: if you copy a template directory to a new name, Koha reads the name from the file system and you can choose it in Koha system preferences. 13:07 tim Now that I have it running I'm not to bothered by it. I'll start working on our own templates. 13:06 tim The tarball doesn't have it. 13:05 thd tim: see if you have the directory in the expanded tarball and copy it to the correct location. Then change the ownership and permissions to whatever is required for the Koha templates directories. 13:03 thd tim: If you have no extensive configuration or data, try dropping the database and deleting /etc/koha.conf and /usr/local/koha/* then reinstalling to see if the default template will appear. I do not know the minimal steps to force recreation of the directory but it should be in the expanded tarball. 12:59 tim of course I still coulda missed the problem anyway. 12:58 tim I was looking at the directory as root. 12:58 tim I see those errors and the dyslexia kicks in big-time. Shoulda took more time to read 'em and bump up the font size too. 12:57 thd tim: Of course, if you made a symlink now, that would have overwritten it. 12:56 thd time could the directory be there with the wrong user and group name so that you do not see it? 12:55 thd tim: file not found led to all the script problems 12:54 tim Thanks! It probably woulda bee a while before I looked there. I was thinking it would be a script problem. 12:53 tim I just have css, npl and vanilla 12:52 tim I did a symlink to npl named default and it works now. I wonde why it wasn't installed. 12:52 thd tim: sudo ls -l /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl 12:51 tim That's wierd. There's no default. 12:51 thd tim: what comes back from 'ls -l /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl' ? 12:50 thd tim can you locate /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl ? 12:48 tim Wanted to paste one at a time to avoid flooding. 12:48 tim C4::Auth::get_template_and_user('HASH(0x8983d74)') called at /usr/local/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac-main.pl line 32 12:48 tim C4::Output::gettemplate('opac-main.tmpl', 'opac', 'CGI=HASH(0x8144cd4)') called at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Auth.pm line 114 12:47 tim HTML::Template::new('HTML::Template', 'filename', '/usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl', 'die_on_bad_params', 0, 'global_vars', 1, 'path', 'ARRAY(0x899c6f0)', ...) called at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Output.pm line 77 12:47 tim HTML::Template::_init('HTML::Template=HASH(0x821631c)') called at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/HTML/Template.pm line 1083 12:47 tim tHTML::Template::_init_template('HTML::Template=HASH(0x821631c)') called at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/HTML/Template.pm line 1189 12:46 tim HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.tmpl : file not found. at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/HTML/Template.pm line 1616 12:46 thd kados: Did you find a solution for reserving a damaged item? 12:45 thd kados: I communicated with chris and rach last night about the original Koha design and how closely it does or does not match the FRBR model 12:43 thd tim: what are the 6 error messages 12:43 thd kados: I have not sent the holdiings $t message to koha-dev yet but explained it to paul. It is not a priority to address now but would make migration to Koha much easier, etc. in future with record exchange benefits 12:43 tim I'm guessing it has something to do with the 6 errors before that :) 12:42 tim The last error in opac_error_log is Premature end of script headers: opac-main.pl 12:40 tim intranet seems to work fine. 12:40 tim I just tried installing Koha on my desktop at home and get an internal server error (500) after the splash screen on the opac. 12:38 kados thd: occassionally ;-) 12:33 thd kados: are you present?