Time Nick Message 11:59 owen Why have a framework if you're not going to customize it for your particular task? 11:59 owen Hiding is fine... but Koha doesn't do that. Koha *does* offer frameworks, so that's the approach I'm following. 11:56 thd records without having to see them if he does not care. 11:56 thd owen: What is wrong with hiding the unused fields from the user? If the user deletes the wrong field, he has an incomplete MARC record that may be missing a required field as the default Koha frameworks are already, with the missing required fixed fields. If required fields are missing, then the records are not good for exchanging with other institutions. If the user is copy cataloguing, he can have the benefit of required fields for valid 10:19 hdl first one is better to my mind. Supposing Default Framework would gather all the information needed in the other ones. 10:04 owen The other idea I had was to present the user with a list of tags to include in the new framework, and they could put a check next to the tags they wanted 10:04 hdl Might be a good thing. 10:03 hdl Oh yes. Now I got the point. 10:03 owen So it's more a matter of deleting unused ones than adding new ones 10:03 owen The frameworks we'd like to create are sub-sets of that framework 10:03 owen It's like a "super-framework" with most of the options we might use 10:02 owen For instance: our default framework has a lot of unused tags 10:01 hdl Or you would have to suppose that default frwk would be set to include EVERY Frwk that you would like to create, whichseems to be currently the case. :/ 10:01 owen The problem is, there's no efficient way to delete unused subfields from a framework 10:00 hdl If you hide them, right from the start, I think you miss the point. Am I right ? 10:00 hdl select, new fields, new subfields... 09:59 hdl indeed, ppl goes there to edit a new frwk. 09:58 owen Does that make sense? 09:58 owen When you're creating a new framework, and you're offered the choice of which other framework to base it on, it would be great if you could also choose 'use only used tags/subfields' 05:49 chris it must be either very early or very late for you kados 05:36 kados heh 04:14 Icez hi 04:07 Icez hi 00:38 rach yes 00:20 chris some lost kid is my bet :) 00:19 chris heh 00:18 chris #koha is for talking about koha http://koha.org/ 00:18 Icez koha 00:18 Icez what is koda 00:18 chris so are you thinking about installing koha? 00:17 chris we never bothered to change it 00:17 Icez also why is the network name undernet 00:17 Icez no 00:17 chris so you have koha installed? 00:16 chris i dont think anyone has done it yet in nz, because its gets expensive (sms overdues etc) 00:16 Icez running off ma dedicated server 00:16 Icez i use that on ma network 00:15 Icez i like Unrealircd 00:15 Icez k 00:15 Icez ahh l 00:14 chris you will need to have a modem for the machine 00:14 chris not easily 00:14 Icez ya 00:13 chris in koha? 00:12 Icez do u no how i can make my pc txt my cell phone 00:12 Icez hi 00:12 chris hi 00:11 Icez hmm 14:35 kados strange 14:35 owen But it didn't used to happen in the default template, so I'm not sure what's going on there. 14:35 owen I know it's happening on 101 (rel_2_2) 14:35 kados owen: or rel_2_2 in CVS? 14:34 kados owen: this is on our production machine? 14:19 owen It's a nasty bug, because if you end up with two subfield 'a's, you can't just delete one, because all Koha knows to do is delete anything with that tag number and that subfield code 14:17 owen I've spent all day tearing apart the template trying to find out where I'm going wrong, and I haven't come up with anything. 14:16 owen I don't know if it's just our system, or if it's a real bug 14:15 owen I thought it was just my template (NPL), but now it's doing it with the default template too. 14:15 owen Does anyone else have a problem with marc_subfield_structure.pl saving duplicate subfield entries? 12:11 kados indradg: understood 12:10 indradg right now we are a little busy specing a cluster-able appliance server product :) 12:09 indradg kados, heh 12:08 indradg hmm... my team does have a debian package maintainer (for Indian Language packs)... we cud spin the debs 12:08 kados indradg: but then you've already got one of those ;-) 12:08 kados indradg: Package Manager for Koha ;-) 12:07 kados indradg: if someone was willing they could get a shiny official title ;-) 12:07 kados indradg: but noone has stepped forward and done so 12:07 kados indradg: we could 12:04 indradg had some people here asking if we cud create .deb files for Koha 12:04 indradg distributed abt 100 LiveCD... terrific demand :) 12:03 indradg getting along... plenty of travelling... but things are looking up 12:02 owen Pretty good, you? 12:02 indradg hi owen how goes?