Time Nick Message 18:48 thd kados: are you there? 14:18 thd I will search for the link 14:18 thd there is also the openurl list with archives 14:16 kados I'm skimming the archives now 14:16 kados yep 14:15 thd they would have solved this already or at least had the issues more fully aired if they had more eyes :) 14:14 thd there are archives. 14:14 thd the group considering this is a little small. 14:13 kados thd: i will ... thanks for pointing me to it 14:13 thd join the oddly named GCS-PCS list linked in the proposal if you are interested in the use of OpenURLs in a public and cross-institutional context. 14:10 thd http://www.openly.com/openurlref/latent-span.html 14:06 kados cool ... 14:05 thd kados: Right now Eric Hellman from Openly Informatics has given a call for everyone to contribute what they might to his draft proposal for latent OpenURLs or live with the consequences of his recommendation for the use of OpenURLs in HTML pages. 14:01 thd kados: I want to start working seriously on the catalaguing module in three weeks or so. 13:59 thd kados: I had thought of looking the cataloguing module to see if I could find a useful approach before working on the design I had suggested for Koha cataloguing 13:58 thd kados: would you ask him about where or why he is hiding the demos for PINES? 13:56 kados thd: yep 13:28 thd kados: aren't you working closely with Mike Rylander on FreeILL? 13:27 thd owen: I would send them comments if I could look at it, as I imagine others would. 13:24 thd thd shrugs :) 13:24 kados thd: I feel your pain ;-) 13:23 thd :( 13:23 thd kados: the test demo for the cataloguing module in PINES has not been available for some months and should have been replaced in May according to the text file that appears in place of the download. 13:22 owen Maybe they wanted to get feedback about that particular stage, and then pull it while they worked on the comments 13:21 kados thd: not really sure why that was 13:21 thd kados: Why sould a test demo be temporary and then withdrawn if not at the moment it was replaced? 13:20 kados thd: your comments are very useful 13:20 kados thd: yep 13:19 thd kados: are you still there? 13:18 thd kados: I had forgotten one very important thing in favour of CUFTS where Keystone might otherwise seem to the most advantages. CUFTS is written in Perl :) 13:01 thd kados: Have you ever seen such a practice? Of course I have kept my test demos hidden, myself, until they meet my expectations :) 12:58 thd kados: Why sould a test demo be temporary and then withdrawn if not at the moment it was replaced? 12:56 thd kados: Do you have access to the PINES cataloguing test demo? It has expired online, although, a new test demo is listed as fortcoming this past May. 12:48 thd kados: I will update my aptget sources file for Indexdata stuff to investigate further. 12:46 thd kados: there may be things missing from the Keystone system as federated search tool that a resolver should have for administration that had been considered better for CUFTS as a resolver only system 12:43 thd kados: Keystone does support either 0.1 or the NISO standard 1.0 OpenURLs 12:42 thd kados: I have not investestigated Keystone enough for the resolver administration issues nor CUFTS for that matter. 12:40 thd kados: CUFTS has limits on the depth of search fields to identify an article. 12:37 thd kados: Keystone as a federated search tool excels at user presented options for the results 12:36 thd kados: CUFTS also has no library configurable page for the library to present the results and the user to choose options for accessing the results. 12:31 thd kados: CUFTS has no support for 1.0 OpenURLs, the NISO standard. There is a message one of the CUFTS files about help with that and I have seen a powerpoint from 2003 where SFU people were considering the issues of the then draft NISO standard. 12:27 thd kados: sorry, I had a disconnection and we missed a few of each others messages 12:07 kados owen: you can commit it to HEAD after you make the necessary changes ;-) 12:02 kados thd: do you have an opinion about which service is better: keystone or the resolvers offered by ReSearcher? 12:01 kados owen: ok ... committed to rel_2_2