Time Nick Message 12:01 indradg kados, around? 12:01 indradg kados, ping! 12:25 kados indradg: sure am 12:25 kados what's up? 12:44 kados indradg: need help getting CVS going? 12:55 indradg kados, sorry wasn't around 13:08 kados indradg: I'm here if you need help with something 13:41 kados hey paul_away 13:41 kados late night for you ;-) 13:41 paul_away (not here, just looking at my bank account 13:42 kados hehe 13:42 paul_away not really, it's jus 9PM 13:42 kados right 13:42 paul_away (& suspect you don't either...) 13:43 kados heh 13:46 indradg kados, i'll be away tomorrow and day after sayamindu (logged in here as unmadindu) will handle the ISO upload 13:46 indradg he'll ping you if he faces any problem 13:46 kados sounds good 13:46 kados indradg: so your sf account is working ok? 13:47 indradg yup 13:47 kados indradg: does he need one too? 13:47 indradg he can use my userid 13:47 kados cool 13:48 kados indradg: so what will the livecd do? 13:48 kados I can boot off the CD and run a sample koha will full dataset? 13:49 indradg yep.. thats the idea... we are putting up a sample data set from my WBUT implementation 13:50 indradg with about 1000 titles 13:50 kados sweet 13:50 kados can you use NPL templates? 13:50 kados (or what templates would you be using?) 13:51 indradg IIRC sayamindu when with the defaults 13:51 kados ok 13:52 indradg s/when/went/ 16:23 kados rach: if you're around: Paul's planning 2.2.3 for Monday IIRC 16:37 chris morning 16:37 kados morning chris 16:38 kados I'm having trouble with Koha barcode generation 16:38 kados FYI 16:38 kados I installed PDF:API2 and in my .cpan/build/PDF.... I have Utils.pm (with the right tree) 16:38 chris ive never even tried it 16:39 kados but it's giving me the errorCan't locate PDF/API2/PDF/Utils.pm in @INC 16:39 chris didnt someone on the mailing list have that problem also? 16:39 kados I installed it with CPAN ... doesn't that normally place it in the INC? 16:39 kados yea 16:39 kados but the solution was to install PDF::API2 ;-) 16:39 chris :) 16:40 chris ive never tried it, so cant be much help im afraid 16:40 kados right ... 16:40 kados do you happen to know if it's normal to have .cpan included in @INC? 16:41 chris nope 16:41 chris make install should put it in /usr/local/share/perl something something 16:41 kados right ... that's what I thought ... I don't see it showing up there 16:42 chris id go into .cpan/build etc 16:42 chris and do a make install 16:42 chris and see what it does 16:42 kados k ... I'll try it 16:43 kados Writing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/PDF/API2/.packlistAppending installation info to /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/perllocal.pod 16:43 kados that's it ... it exited 16:43 kados must be something screwy with this version or smt 16:43 chris hmm 16:43 chris perl Makefile.PL 16:43 chris then make 16:43 kados # perl Makefile.PLWriting Makefile for PDF::API2This is PDF::API2, Version 0.43 (2005-06-10 16:38:39) 16:44 kados make gives not message 16:44 kados s/not/no/ 16:44 chris hmm 16:44 kados make install gives same as before 16:44 chris make should give some messages 16:44 chris making hte man pages at the least 16:44 kados I'm gonna try installing the depends 16:45 kados Compress::Zlib 16:45 chris does make test do anything? 16:45 kados # make test 16:45 kados PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t 16:45 kados t/00use....ok All tests successful.Files=1, Tests=1, 6 wallclock secs ( 2.19 cusr + 0.20 csys = 2.39 CPU) 16:48 chris thats just mental 16:50 kados perl -MCPAN -e 'install Compress::Zlib'; 16:50 kados Can't locate object method "install" via package "Compress::Zlib" at -e line 1. 16:55 chris thats pretty weird 16:55 chris what if you do it by hand? 16:56 kados hmmm, does that just involve copying the directory tree over to the perl dirs? 16:57 chris nope, go in do a perl Makefile.PL 16:57 chris make 16:57 chris make test 16:57 chris make install 16:57 kados yea ... that's what I just did ;-) 16:57 kados ahh ... you mean for Compress::Zlib 16:57 chris yeah 16:57 chris seems pretty mental it has no install 16:58 kados /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Compress/Zlib 16:58 kados already exists 16:58 kados strangely 16:58 kados I wonder if we've got a situation with the Fedora package overlapping with CPAN 16:59 chris could be 17:31 kados ok ... I installed the fedora version of Compress::Zlib 17:31 kados then reinstalled PDF::API 17:32 kados now I have a 17:32 kados /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/PDF/API2/Basic/PDF/Utils.pm 17:32 chris that sounds more like it 17:32 kados and I'm getting the error: 17:32 kados Can't locate PDF/API2/PDF/Utils.pm in @INC 17:32 chris yep 17:32 kados so maybe they've restructured the PDF::API2? 17:32 chris looks like it 17:32 kados shit 17:32 kados I tried adding 'use PDF::API2::Basic' 17:33 chris did you try 17:33 chris use PDF::API2::Basic::PDF 17:33 kados about to 17:33 chris or even 17:33 chris use PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Utils 17:35 kados same error for both :-( 17:35 chris darn 17:35 chris is there a Changelog file 17:35 chris in the .cpan/build 17:38 kados nothing interestinng in there related to Utils 17:38 kados looks like it's been in Basic at least since 2003 17:39 chris hmm im out of ideas 17:40 kados ahha! 17:40 kados use PDF::API2::PDF::Utils; 17:40 kados that's got to be a bug 17:40 kados it's in one of the scripts 17:42 kados better: 17:42 kados Sun Jun 19 18:41:26 2005] [error] [client 192.168.4.105] Can't locate object method "barcode" via package "PDF::API2" at /home/koha001/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/barcodes/barcodesGenerator.pl line 237., referer: http://lpiintranet.liblime.com/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/barcodes.pl 17:50 kados interesting 17:50 kados http://tinyurl.com/874wh 17:51 kados here we have (in japanese) a PDF::API2::Barcode 17:51 kados which uses the $pdf->barcode method 18:26 kados but the CPAN version of PDF::API2 doesn't have a barcode method that I can see 19:09 kados on debian: 19:09 kados /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/PDF/API2/PDF/Utils.pm 19:09 kados /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/PDF/API2/TTF/Utils.pm 19:09 kados I'm guessing Debian must be like at least one major version behind on those modules 19:09 kados and that's the problem 19:10 kados chris: owen just pinged me to say that barcode generation is working fine on our test debian machine 19:11 kados and so the developer of the Koha bacode stuff must have been doing it on woody 02:35 paul 'lut 02:35 hdl Salut. 06:28 kados hi paul, hdl 06:28 kados paul: I heard from Emiliano this morning 06:28 kados paul: it seems he'll be sending the code soon ;-) 06:32 kados paul: also ... I've found a solution to the problem "z39.50 is not an innovative search method) 06:32 kados http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/zing/cql/ 06:32 kados Zebra (with yaz proxy and maybe even without it) supports CQL 06:43 paul 'morning joshua/kados. 06:47 kados I think CQL is about as innovative as search methods for libraries come ;-) 06:48 paul will be in 2.2.3 06:48 kados excellent! 06:54 kados paul: what's the full name of EMN? 06:54 paul Ecole des Mines de Nantes 06:54 kados thx 07:28 paul monsieur osmoze bonjour 07:29 paul bienvenue dans cet ilot de fraicheur au milieu de cet océan de canicule... 07:46 osmoze lol 07:46 osmoze coucou paul 07:46 osmoze :) 08:52 anacaona hello all 08:52 paul hello canada 08:53 paul welcome here. 08:53 anacaona i'm having problems with koha 2.0.2, with the z3950 search 08:53 anacaona hi paul. 08:54 anacaona there aren't any error messages in the logs, but the results screen just refreshes with not content. 08:54 anacaona i tried to add the "my $context=C4::Context->new();" line that phill hardstaff suggested on the list 08:55 anacaona but a bit blindly since i didn't know in which script or which line to add it (didn't work) 08:55 paul did you setup the z3950daemon ? 08:55 paul in scripts/z3950 iirc 08:56 anacaona iirc? 08:56 paul (are you a canadian speaking english or french ? because i'm french ;-) ) 08:56 paul (If I Remember Correctly) 08:56 anacaona je peux parler en français aussi, si cela vous convient mieux. :-) 08:56 anacaona aaah. 08:56 paul no, english is fine. 08:56 anacaona yes, i'm launching the script from there, no error messages or anything but it doesn't seem to work 08:57 paul do you have "still ?? requests to go" 08:57 anacaona yes. 08:57 paul forever ? 08:57 anacaona yes. 08:57 paul (with ??) 08:57 anacaona ?? 08:57 anacaona i double checked the data for loc and it seems fine. 08:57 paul so, you don't have z3950 daemon setup 08:57 paul koha is in /usr/local/koha ? 08:57 anacaona no... 08:57 anacaona /var/www/koha 08:58 paul a question : why did you install 2.0.2 and not 2.2.2b ? 08:58 anacaona i installed it about a month ago... maybe 2.2. wasn't out yet? 08:58 paul so, look in /var/www/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/ 08:58 paul (no, 2.2.x is here since january) 08:59 anacaona hmm. i really don't know... 08:59 anacaona lemme upgrade and see if things go better. 09:00 anacaona oh, at sourceforge 2.0.2. is the first option, i guess i just clicked without looking. 09:00 paul no, things won't go better with 2.2.x 09:00 paul you MUST setup the z3950daemon if you want z3950 to work 09:01 paul because the z3950 search works : 09:01 paul 1- clic on "z3950 search" 09:01 paul 2- the server see "oh, my librarian want a z3950 search. I save this query for the daemon" 09:01 anacaona yes. 09:02 paul 2b- the server answers "waiting for daemon answers" (the still ?? requests to go) 09:02 paul 3- the daemon awakes and say "oh my god, i've some z3950 servers to query" 09:02 paul 4- the damon calls for each z3950 server & wait for the answer 09:02 anacaona but i launched the server and there doesn't seem to be any errors. 09:02 paul 5- your apache servers sees & show the answerts from the daemon when they arrive. 09:02 anacaona so what do youmean by "setup the daemon" 09:03 paul you should see infos in the z3950 demon log 09:03 anacaona there's nothing there. 09:03 paul in /var/www/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/ 09:03 anacaona there's nothing in the log 09:03 paul you have a z3950-daemon-options 09:03 anacaona its empty 09:03 anacaona yeah, i've looked through it, its fine. 09:03 paul the z3950-daemon-options contains all options. 09:03 paul so, run "process3950queue" in a term & look at the output 09:04 paul (export PERL5LIB before) 09:04 paul export PERL5LIB=/path/to/koha/modules 09:04 paul (where the C4 directory is) 09:05 anacaona command not found 09:06 paul your term is bash ? 09:06 anacaona yup 09:06 paul ./processz3950queue 09:06 paul ;-) 09:06 anacaona :-) 09:06 anacaona starting loop 09:07 anacaona it really likes to start the loop. :-) 09:07 paul ok, so clic on "search z3950" now 09:07 paul (on librarian interface) 09:07 paul you should see what the daemon is doing 09:09 anacaona still at starting loo0p 09:09 paul mmm... then your daemon-options is wrong. 09:09 paul or : 09:09 anacaona wait... 09:09 paul did you setup a z3950 server ? 09:09 anacaona there's something in the log 09:09 paul koha >> parameters >> z3950 servers ? 09:09 anacaona yeah, two servers. 09:10 anacaona lemme try the second one. 09:10 anacaona (library of congress and mcgill univ) 09:10 paul (with checked=1 of course, otherwise the server is ignored) 09:11 anacaona i remember in a prior version of koha you could choose which z3950 server to search 09:13 anacaona nope 09:14 paul so, change for checked=1 ! 09:14 anacaona yeah, i switched from library of congress to mcgill university and same problem. 09:16 paul if you don't see anything in term with processz3950 queue, 09:16 paul then it means your daemon-options is wrong 09:17 anacaona RunAsUser=www-data 09:17 anacaona KohaZ3950Dir=/var/www/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon 09:17 anacaona KohaModuleDir=/var/www/koha/intranet/modules 09:17 anacaona LogDir=/var/log/koha 09:17 anacaona KohaConf=/etc/koha.conf 09:18 paul is www-data able to read /etc/koha.conf ? 09:18 paul (permissions) 09:18 anacaona yup 09:18 paul & able to write in logs ? 09:18 anacaona yup 09:18 paul mmm... no idea... 09:29 paul owen : meeting has been changed to 20GMT 09:29 owen I knew that :) 09:29 paul (hello however) 09:30 anacaona paul. 09:30 owen Oh, url probably changed too... 09:30 anacaona it wasn't working because... 09:30 anacaona they didn't have the book i was looking for at either library! 09:30 paul :-( 09:30 anacaona <--- big dummy 09:31 paul note that if you're searching for an isbn you already have, you won't find it either. 09:32 hdl hi owen 09:32 owen Hi hdl 09:33 anacaona how so? 09:35 paul if you search an isbn for a book that is already in your DB, the z3950server will return it. But Koha will discard the result, considering you have it 09:35 paul the default being it does it silently 09:36 owen I wonder if it should display the result but highlight it differently from the other results? 09:36 owen In case the person searching didn't know they already had it? 09:37 kados morning owen 09:37 paul it should probably do something like this 09:37 owen Hi kados 09:38 anacaona paul, thing is with the acquisitions menu you search through your catalogue first anyhow, 09:38 anacaona so its totally safe for the z3950 daemon to chuck results for pre-existing isbn 09:39 anacaona thank you so much for your help with this. 09:39 paul right, but we can't ignore users that ignore koha features :-( 10:07 anacaona true