Time  Nick     Message
10:52 slef     paul: cvs log in french then :-D
10:52 paul     (/me poor english :-( )
10:52 paul     ok, i'll remember it.
10:52 slef     paul: that's "fixing a typo" or even just "typo fix" ;-)
10:51 paul     slef : when i write this, it means the bugfix is trivial. Here it is : my$temp instead of my $temp
10:50 slef     paul: "fixing a bug" is not a nice log message :-(
10:48 kados    I'm gonna take it down and re-index :-(
10:45 kados    (bad news is I forgot to index using the VOYAGER db name so I can't use the loc gateway to speed test, etc :(
10:44 kados    (that address should work only for Yaz or some other Z39.50 client)
10:43 kados    sanspach: yes ... thanks!
10:43 kados    liblime.com:9999
10:43 sanspach kados: so I take it the records loaded OK? :)
10:42 kados    btw: 5 million records indexed in 40 minutes with Zebra ;-)
10:40 paul     ;-)
10:39 slef     oops, lagged
10:39 slef     from the manual page
10:39 slef            (CGI, examples of sending attachments, HTML mail etc...)
10:39 slef            Look at http://alma.ch/perl/Mail-Sendmail-FAQ.html for additional info
10:39 paul     ok, i've found http://alma.ch/perl/Mail-Sendmail-FAQ.html#attachments that has the answer to my question
10:37 paul     (no way to do it otherwise imho)
10:37 owen     By subscribing to koha-cvs ;)
10:36 slef     I've unsubscribed from koha-cvs. It's too high traffic recently. How do you follow development?
10:36 paul     no joshua, as all the systempref table is read when the 1st pref is needed. and one is needed to find template/language
10:36 paul     you're welcome. my customers would probably cry a lot.
10:35 kados    it adds another query right?
10:35 slef     Is disability discrimination allowed in France?
10:35 kados    paul: but will it impact performance?
10:35 kados    paul: thanks for adding the syspref for 'lost'
10:35 paul     (it's javascript)
10:34 paul     right.
10:34 slef     clicking 2005 doesn't work. It's javascript.
10:34 paul     you should have a list
10:34 paul     did you clic on 2005 ?
10:33 slef     gopher://g.towers.org.uk/I/ss.png
10:31 slef     1mo for screenshot
10:31 paul     question : how to add an attachment to a mail::sendmail mail ?
10:31 paul     (there is a long list of subscription / issue date & number & status)
10:30 paul     (or konqueror, or opera)
10:30 paul     not blank at all for me (with firefox)
10:30 slef     http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9006/cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=9955
10:30 paul     which page ?
10:30 slef     paul: I've gone blind, or your page is blank.
10:16 owen     In the intranet, I haven't solved it either.
10:15 owen     In the OPAC, I don't use the tab system.  I just display the whole record.
10:14 paul     (how did you solve this with npl templates ?
10:13 paul     They were outside, so without light blue
10:13 paul     (i've just included them in div id=mainbloc)
10:12 paul     but even with the marc display, the problem is the same
10:12 paul     yes owen
10:12 owen     Are you trying to build the same kind of tab system you use with the MARC display?
10:10 paul     owen, no, i've added a 2006 entry manually.
10:10 owen     Maybe you could put that into the table <caption> element and style it there
10:10 owen     Will that always be a single year?
10:10 owen     So '2005' is the year list?
10:07 kados    paul: right ... because floated elements are outside the document flow
10:07 paul     the mainbloc is extended, but the table appears after the year list, where i want it facing the year list.
10:07 owen     I don't know if this will break something somewhere else, but if you take out position:absolute from div.tabblocsub { that helps
10:07 kados    paul: one tip ... if you validate your html you will be able to validate your css ... that may notice the problem
10:07 paul     if i remove the position:absolute, it works partially
10:05 paul     what do you suggest ?
10:00 owen     Does div.tabblocsub have to be position:absolute?
09:57 paul     back.
09:54 paul     right, no change.
09:54 paul     it comes from cnrs stylesheet rules. My customer wanted to have an ILS looking like other cnrs sites.
09:54 owen     Adding a clearing element doesn't seem to help your problem page any :(
09:53 owen     The bibliothèque de sociologie page looks really good
09:52 owen     CSS is funny that way--it's sometimes hard to get the container to extend around an object when positioning is used
09:52 owen     Maybe it's because the div is absolutely positioned... I'm not sure.
09:50 paul     (removed, it was just a test)
09:50 paul     yes.
09:49 owen     On the subscription page, do you see a black border that extends up into the orange header bloc?
09:47 paul     }
09:47 paul     	border: 1px solid black;
09:47 owen     Okay, I reloaded the page and now the stylesheet has loaded
09:47 paul     	left:42px;
09:47 paul     	top:123px;
09:47 paul     	display:block;
09:47 paul     	position:absolute;
09:47 paul     div.tabblocsub {
09:47 paul     tabsub being in
09:47 paul     }
09:47 paul     	margin-right:10%;
09:47 paul     	margin-top:100px;
09:47 paul     	margin-left:72px;
09:47 paul     	visibility:hidden;
09:47 paul     	background-color: #ACE6E6;
09:47 paul     div.tabsub {
09:47 paul     btw, the table is in a container that has :
09:46 paul     in line 6 ?
09:46 paul     		<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://bureau.paulpoulain.com/sociologie.css" />
09:46 paul     you don't have
09:46 owen     (btw, I'm not getting *any* style sheet with that second link!)
09:45 owen     Is the table floated?
09:45 paul     ??? don't understand.
09:44 owen     Or <br clear="both">
09:44 paul     (btw, you also can go to : http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9014/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl, it's 100% pure Koha, just with a stylesheet /me really proud of this stylesheet)
09:44 owen     I think the only way to do it is to put an element after it that has a clear= value.
09:43 paul     how to get the mainbloc go until end of the table ?
09:43 paul     http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9006/cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=9955
09:43 owen     Yes
09:43 paul     happy to see you. do you have a min for a css problem (once again)
09:43 owen     Hi
09:43 paul     hi owen.
08:53 paul     why not, if the project plans to release a new version, I could give some code.
08:52 slef     paul: once I know. Do you want an account?
08:29 hdl      hi michael.
08:23 paul     slef : let me know the address.
08:23 slef     paul: Kartouche CVS is being moved to a public server.
08:18 kados    hdl: must be my mistake ;-)
08:12 hdl      5000000 records WOW ! smileglasses
08:11 hdl      kados, bug 924, your note assigned it to me but is marked fixed/worked for me.
08:04 kados    right ;-)
08:04 kados    they will be very useful for locating bottlenecks, etc.
08:03 kados    sanspach
08:03 kados    paul: someone donated them ;-)
08:03 kados    paul: and I'll be trying to import into Koha
08:03 paul     what do you mean by "acquired" ?
08:03 kados    paul: I've also just acquired 5 million MARC records ...
08:01 kados    s/searches/indexes/
08:01 kados    natively searches xml
08:00 kados    exactly
08:00 kados    and adds boolian, relevance ranking, and I think stemming
08:00 paul     & could be easier to extend search to more than you catalogue
08:00 paul     ;-)
08:00 kados    also ... it means automatically having a _very_ good Z39.50 server ;-) (mine is not too good ;-))
07:58 kados    and it takes in raw marc data
07:57 kados    from scratch
07:57 kados    the index only takes 3 minutes to build
07:57 kados    not sure of the specifics, but : "It supports incremental, safe database updates on live systems."
07:56 paul     kados, how do you manage biblio modifs with Zebra ?
07:56 kados    I'm thinking we need a Yaz wrapper in SearchMarc that does the search and pulls out the results in a hash ... then queries for item info, etc.
07:53 kados    it's pointing to my zebra server
07:53 kados    http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zgate?ACTION=INIT&FORM_HOST_PORT=/prod/www/data/z3950/locils.html,,9999&CI=034920
07:53 kados    paul: have you tried this:
07:52 paul     (& probably subject)
07:52 paul     just title or author should work
07:52 paul     no keywotrd
07:52 kados    right ;-)
07:52 hdl      It is just for Proof of concept, ;)
07:51 kados    keyword doesn't seem to be working
07:50 kados
07:50 kados    ok ... here it is:
07:48 paul     just replace use SearchMarc by SearchMarc.pm in opac-search.pl
07:48 paul     yes.
07:48 kados    paul to get Tword working I need SearchMartTest.pm right?
07:47 kados    looks good paul!
07:47 hdl      yes.
07:47 paul     (hdl, can you call me, pls)
07:47 paul     (required a little hack that will be commited soon)
07:47 kados    very pretty!
07:47 hdl      cool :)
07:46 paul     100% standard Koha
07:46 paul     http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9014/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
07:46 kados    yes!
07:46 kados    (it's become idiomatic -- it comes from clothing sizes)
07:46 paul     do you want to see a nice stylesheet i'm working on ?
07:45 paul     (i understand it at least)
07:45 kados    right
07:45 paul     (we will never be as easy to setup as PMB, because, with easyphp, on a winXP computer, in 2 clics you have all you need. Installing perl on windows is not as simple)
07:45 kados    (do you know this expresion?
07:45 kados    oops ... s/on/one/
07:45 kados    right ... it's a tough decision whether to make Koha 'on size fits all'
07:44 paul     you will be right, but I don't want ppl discarding too quickly Koha.
07:44 kados    but that's a good point ;-)
07:44 kados    :-)
07:44 kados    not really ...
07:44 paul     you'll say a small library means small fees, so let's ignore them ;-)
07:44 paul     small libraries goes to PMB really often & rarely choose Koha.
07:44 kados    paul: yes
07:43 paul     in France, there is another ILS, called PMB (php+apache+mysql), under GPL, that is really easy to install.
07:43 paul     no, but ppl in france find Koha hard to set up
07:43 paul     btw, did you succed to rebuild marc_Tword with the new version ?
07:42 kados    .deb and rpm
07:42 paul     if as easy as other packages, then I won't have any problems with it
07:42 kados    paul: yep ... there are packages
07:42 paul     easy to use maybe, but is it easy to install ?
07:41 paul     'morning kados.
07:41 kados    hi everyone btw ;-)
07:41 kados    paul: zebra is pretty easy to use
07:08 slef     APC News just linked to greenstone
06:31 gavin    also make use of cvs, svn, make a fair bit
06:31 gavin    Genji: similar to chris I use screen, vim, ssh all the time
02:56 chris    so u search locally, and only talk back to the mysql db for item specific or borrower specific stuff
02:55 chris    for the opacs
02:55 chris    i was thinking as well, that you could have a zebra server running at each branch ... in a multi branch or consortia type library
02:54 chris    otherwise we use the existing methods
02:54 chris    which is used if usezebra=1
02:53 chris    so you have C4::SearchZebra
02:53 chris    something like that
02:53 chris    usezebra=1
02:53 chris    with a switch in system preferences
02:52 chris    thats the plan
02:49 paul     ?
02:49 paul     * 1 with zebra, harder to install but with a good/great scalability
02:49 paul     * 1 without zbra, easier to install, for small libraries
02:49 paul     chris : about "optional" do you think it would be easy to have 2 koha version
02:44 chris    and one that can be optional
02:44 chris    but i think its going to be a nice scalable fast search solution
02:44 chris    and then we need to query the item specific things
02:43 chris    well to search anyway, returning the results takes a little more time
02:42 chris    its exceedingly fast
02:40 chris    but each to their own .. whatever works best for you is what you should use :)
02:39 chris    so i prefer things like vim and jed or emacs which are curses based
02:39 chris    i ssh onto whatever machine im working on at the time and edit there
02:39 chris    i very rarely work on my machine at home
02:38 chris    yep
02:38 hdl      But vim will also do syntax higlighting if configured and Kate, asoasf... ;)
02:36 chris    i pretty much use whatever is available
02:35 chris    emacs will do nice formatting and colour syntax hilighting if you set it up
02:34 chris    ssh, screen and a text editor are pretty much all i need
02:34 chris    depends what machine im working on :)
02:34 chris    or emacs
02:34 chris    or vi
02:34 chris    i use jed
02:33 paul     Genji : I use kate, a linux-KDE text editor
02:32 paul     hi chris & genji
02:07 chris    a text editor
02:03 Genji    hey, what software do katipo programmers use for programming?