Time Nick Message 02:03 Genji hey, what software do katipo programmers use for programming? 02:07 chris a text editor 02:32 paul hi chris & genji 02:33 paul Genji : I use kate, a linux-KDE text editor 02:34 chris i use jed 02:34 chris or vi 02:34 chris or emacs 02:34 chris depends what machine im working on :) 02:34 chris ssh, screen and a text editor are pretty much all i need 02:35 chris emacs will do nice formatting and colour syntax hilighting if you set it up 02:36 chris i pretty much use whatever is available 02:38 hdl But vim will also do syntax higlighting if configured and Kate, asoasf... ;) 02:38 chris yep 02:39 chris i very rarely work on my machine at home 02:39 chris i ssh onto whatever machine im working on at the time and edit there 02:39 chris so i prefer things like vim and jed or emacs which are curses based 02:40 chris but each to their own .. whatever works best for you is what you should use :) 02:42 chris its exceedingly fast 02:43 chris well to search anyway, returning the results takes a little more time 02:44 chris and then we need to query the item specific things 02:44 chris but i think its going to be a nice scalable fast search solution 02:44 chris and one that can be optional 02:49 paul chris : about "optional" do you think it would be easy to have 2 koha version 02:49 paul * 1 without zbra, easier to install, for small libraries 02:49 paul * 1 with zebra, harder to install but with a good/great scalability 02:49 paul ? 02:52 chris thats the plan 02:53 chris with a switch in system preferences 02:53 chris usezebra=1 02:53 chris something like that 02:53 chris so you have C4::SearchZebra 02:54 chris which is used if usezebra=1 02:54 chris otherwise we use the existing methods 02:55 chris i was thinking as well, that you could have a zebra server running at each branch ... in a multi branch or consortia type library 02:55 chris for the opacs 02:56 chris so u search locally, and only talk back to the mysql db for item specific or borrower specific stuff 06:31 gavin Genji: similar to chris I use screen, vim, ssh all the time 06:31 gavin also make use of cvs, svn, make a fair bit 07:08 slef APC News just linked to greenstone 07:41 kados paul: zebra is pretty easy to use 07:41 kados hi everyone btw ;-) 07:41 paul 'morning kados. 07:42 paul easy to use maybe, but is it easy to install ? 07:42 kados paul: yep ... there are packages 07:42 paul if as easy as other packages, then I won't have any problems with it 07:42 kados .deb and rpm 07:43 paul btw, did you succed to rebuild marc_Tword with the new version ? 07:43 paul no, but ppl in france find Koha hard to set up 07:43 paul in France, there is another ILS, called PMB (php+apache+mysql), under GPL, that is really easy to install. 07:44 kados paul: yes 07:44 paul small libraries goes to PMB really often & rarely choose Koha. 07:44 paul you'll say a small library means small fees, so let's ignore them ;-) 07:44 kados not really ... 07:44 kados :-) 07:44 kados but that's a good point ;-) 07:44 paul you will be right, but I don't want ppl discarding too quickly Koha. 07:45 kados right ... it's a tough decision whether to make Koha 'on size fits all' 07:45 kados oops ... s/on/one/ 07:45 kados (do you know this expresion? 07:45 paul (we will never be as easy to setup as PMB, because, with easyphp, on a winXP computer, in 2 clics you have all you need. Installing perl on windows is not as simple) 07:45 kados right 07:45 paul (i understand it at least) 07:46 paul do you want to see a nice stylesheet i'm working on ? 07:46 kados (it's become idiomatic -- it comes from clothing sizes) 07:46 kados yes! 07:46 paul http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9014/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl 07:46 paul 100% standard Koha 07:47 hdl cool :) 07:47 kados very pretty! 07:47 paul (required a little hack that will be commited soon) 07:47 paul (hdl, can you call me, pls) 07:47 hdl yes. 07:47 kados looks good paul! 07:48 kados paul to get Tword working I need SearchMartTest.pm right? 07:48 paul yes. 07:48 paul just replace use SearchMarc by SearchMarc.pm in opac-search.pl 07:50 kados ok ... here it is: 07:50 kados http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 07:51 kados keyword doesn't seem to be working 07:52 hdl It is just for Proof of concept, ;) 07:52 kados right ;-) 07:52 paul no keywotrd 07:52 paul just title or author should work 07:52 paul (& probably subject) 07:53 kados paul: have you tried this: 07:53 kados http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zgate?ACTION=INIT&FORM_HOST_PORT=/prod/www/data/z3950/locils.html,66.213.78.76,9999&CI=034920 07:53 kados it's pointing to my zebra server 07:56 kados I'm thinking we need a Yaz wrapper in SearchMarc that does the search and pulls out the results in a hash ... then queries for item info, etc. 07:56 paul kados, how do you manage biblio modifs with Zebra ? 07:57 kados not sure of the specifics, but : "It supports incremental, safe database updates on live systems." 07:57 kados the index only takes 3 minutes to build 07:57 kados from scratch 07:58 kados and it takes in raw marc data 08:00 kados also ... it means automatically having a _very_ good Z39.50 server ;-) (mine is not too good ;-)) 08:00 paul ;-) 08:00 paul & could be easier to extend search to more than you catalogue 08:00 kados and adds boolian, relevance ranking, and I think stemming 08:00 kados exactly 08:01 kados natively searches xml 08:01 kados s/searches/indexes/ 08:03 kados paul: I've also just acquired 5 million MARC records ... 08:03 paul what do you mean by "acquired" ? 08:03 kados paul: and I'll be trying to import into Koha 08:03 kados paul: someone donated them ;-) 08:03 kados sanspach 08:04 kados they will be very useful for locating bottlenecks, etc. 08:04 kados right ;-) 08:11 hdl kados, bug 924, your note assigned it to me but is marked fixed/worked for me. 08:12 hdl 5000000 records WOW ! smileglasses 08:18 kados hdl: must be my mistake ;-) 08:23 slef paul: Kartouche CVS is being moved to a public server. 08:23 paul slef : let me know the address. 08:29 hdl hi michael. 08:52 slef paul: once I know. Do you want an account? 08:53 paul why not, if the project plans to release a new version, I could give some code. 09:43 paul hi owen. 09:43 owen Hi 09:43 paul happy to see you. do you have a min for a css problem (once again) 09:43 owen Yes 09:43 paul http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9006/cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=9955 09:43 paul how to get the mainbloc go until end of the table ? 09:44 owen I think the only way to do it is to put an element after it that has a clear= value. 09:44 paul (btw, you also can go to : http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9014/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl, it's 100% pure Koha, just with a stylesheet /me really proud of this stylesheet) 09:44 owen Or <br clear="both"> 09:45 paul ??? don't understand. 09:45 owen Is the table floated? 09:46 owen (btw, I'm not getting *any* style sheet with that second link!) 09:46 paul you don't have 09:46 paul <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://bureau.paulpoulain.com/sociologie.css" /> 09:46 paul in line 6 ? 09:47 paul btw, the table is in a container that has : 09:47 paul div.tabsub { 09:47 paul background-color: #ACE6E6; 09:47 paul visibility:hidden; 09:47 paul margin-left:72px; 09:47 paul margin-top:100px; 09:47 paul margin-right:10%; 09:47 paul } 09:47 paul tabsub being in 09:47 paul div.tabblocsub { 09:47 paul position:absolute; 09:47 paul display:block; 09:47 paul top:123px; 09:47 paul left:42px; 09:47 owen Okay, I reloaded the page and now the stylesheet has loaded 09:47 paul border: 1px solid black; 09:47 paul } 09:49 owen On the subscription page, do you see a black border that extends up into the orange header bloc? 09:50 paul yes. 09:50 paul (removed, it was just a test) 09:52 owen Maybe it's because the div is absolutely positioned... I'm not sure. 09:52 owen CSS is funny that way--it's sometimes hard to get the container to extend around an object when positioning is used 09:53 owen The bibliothèque de sociologie page looks really good 09:54 owen Adding a clearing element doesn't seem to help your problem page any :( 09:54 paul it comes from cnrs stylesheet rules. My customer wanted to have an ILS looking like other cnrs sites. 09:54 paul right, no change. 09:57 paul back. 10:00 owen Does div.tabblocsub have to be position:absolute? 10:05 paul what do you suggest ? 10:07 paul if i remove the position:absolute, it works partially 10:07 kados paul: one tip ... if you validate your html you will be able to validate your css ... that may notice the problem 10:07 owen I don't know if this will break something somewhere else, but if you take out position:absolute from div.tabblocsub { that helps 10:07 paul the mainbloc is extended, but the table appears after the year list, where i want it facing the year list. 10:07 kados paul: right ... because floated elements are outside the document flow 10:10 owen So '2005' is the year list? 10:10 owen Will that always be a single year? 10:10 owen Maybe you could put that into the table <caption> element and style it there 10:10 paul owen, no, i've added a 2006 entry manually. 10:12 owen Are you trying to build the same kind of tab system you use with the MARC display? 10:12 paul yes owen 10:12 paul but even with the marc display, the problem is the same 10:13 paul (i've just included them in div id=mainbloc) 10:13 paul They were outside, so without light blue 10:14 paul (how did you solve this with npl templates ? 10:15 owen In the OPAC, I don't use the tab system. I just display the whole record. 10:16 owen In the intranet, I haven't solved it either. 10:30 slef paul: I've gone blind, or your page is blank. 10:30 paul which page ? 10:30 slef http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:9006/cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=9955 10:30 paul not blank at all for me (with firefox) 10:30 paul (or konqueror, or opera) 10:31 paul (there is a long list of subscription / issue date & number & status) 10:31 paul question : how to add an attachment to a mail::sendmail mail ? 10:31 slef 1mo for screenshot 10:33 slef gopher://g.towers.org.uk/I/ss.png 10:34 paul did you clic on 2005 ? 10:34 paul you should have a list 10:34 slef clicking 2005 doesn't work. It's javascript. 10:34 paul right. 10:35 paul (it's javascript) 10:35 kados paul: thanks for adding the syspref for 'lost' 10:35 kados paul: but will it impact performance? 10:35 slef Is disability discrimination allowed in France? 10:35 kados it adds another query right? 10:36 paul you're welcome. my customers would probably cry a lot. 10:36 paul no joshua, as all the systempref table is read when the 1st pref is needed. and one is needed to find template/language 10:36 slef I've unsubscribed from koha-cvs. It's too high traffic recently. How do you follow development? 10:37 owen By subscribing to koha-cvs ;) 10:37 paul (no way to do it otherwise imho) 10:39 paul ok, i've found http://alma.ch/perl/Mail-Sendmail-FAQ.html#attachments that has the answer to my question 10:39 slef Look at http://alma.ch/perl/Mail-Sendmail-FAQ.html for additional info 10:39 slef (CGI, examples of sending attachments, HTML mail etc...) 10:39 slef from the manual page 10:39 slef oops, lagged 10:40 paul ;-) 10:42 kados btw: 5 million records indexed in 40 minutes with Zebra ;-) 10:43 sanspach kados: so I take it the records loaded OK? :) 10:43 kados liblime.com:9999 10:43 kados sanspach: yes ... thanks! 10:44 kados (that address should work only for Yaz or some other Z39.50 client) 10:45 kados (bad news is I forgot to index using the VOYAGER db name so I can't use the loc gateway to speed test, etc :( 10:48 kados I'm gonna take it down and re-index :-( 10:50 slef paul: "fixing a bug" is not a nice log message :-( 10:51 paul slef : when i write this, it means the bugfix is trivial. Here it is : my$temp instead of my $temp 10:52 slef paul: that's "fixing a typo" or even just "typo fix" ;-) 10:52 paul ok, i'll remember it. 10:52 paul (/me poor english :-( ) 10:52 slef paul: cvs log in french then :-D